[quote]H factor wrote:
The government doesn’t have to fund them. I just think it’s a logically inconsistent position. It doesn’t make much sense to me to be for the birth of a lot of unwanted children in one breath and to be very against public funding for them in another breath. A lot of die hard pro lifers are already on the government dole to begin with. Look at your states that have the most restrictive abortion positions. Now look at the percentage of them with people on welfare. Look at your food stamp statistics. Same thing. You think unwanted children are going to private schools? You think they aren’t on free and reduced lunches? You think they have health insurance?
A better position would be to decrease the amount of unwanted children. Some ways to do that are typically railed against by pro lifers. Access to contraceptives, teaching safe sex, etc. This would keep the government from having to fund them. You might want to rethink exactly how many people are willing to adopt vs. unwanted children.
http://www.ithaca.edu/faculty/cduncan/230/adoption.htm
You might not think I’m small government, but this way has a hell of a lot better chance of reducing the need for government than every time a woman gets pregnant let’s force her to have it does. The public (gov’t) gets stuck footing the bill for unwanted children just like it does for the ambulance ride from the guy who is uninsured. [/quote]
I am fine with abortion as long as all murder is legalized. THAT would be consistent(and I don’t think that would have much of an effect on current murder numbers). I am also fine(that may not be the right word-I don’t approve of it, but I would 100% oppose a law disallowing it) with a woman allowing her unborn child to die(maybe she could starve herself, or drink heavily enough to do it…?), but not with her or anyone else killing it.
Parents of children are the ones who make the decision to create a child. If you don’t want a child, don’t spread your legs(the female side since the abortion decision is 100% with the female). The conception of a child is not a spontaneous occurrence.
Why should anyone else pay for your decision to have sex?
Do you believe a mentally retarded person’s caretaker should be able to kill them legally? After all, the mentally retarded person may not be able to survive without assistance, this particular one is supported by public funds, etc.
Decreasing the amount of unwanted children is a great idea. The ideas you propose have already failed, however. Maybe telling people, “Look, if you create a child, that child is going to be born-unless it dies from natural causes, and you are going to have to support it until it’s either adopted or reaches the age of consent, or you are going to be punished. If you don’t like that, then don’t spread your legs,” would work better.
A small government approach would be to not allow the government to subsidize anyone. Make people deal with the consequences of their actions.
