I’m retired.
Lol… two fat business slobs having a Thai fight or grappling match
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I lived in a city where once a month you would see what seemed like every cop in the department giving out parking tickets. They would, and I was a victim of this, give out tickets to innocent drivers in the hopes that they would just pay it rather than fight it which was not easy to do. There was a number to call if you wanted to fight it but they didn’t answer the phone. Your other choice was to go down to the courthouse and tell them in person. But, is that the cops or city officials who can’t manage the finances of a city and need to do some extra revenue collection?
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Then shouldn’t the balls be black or brown?
They don’t discriminate at that level. We’re all peeons to them.
Its all shades of green.
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And here is Scottie’s problem, especially considering the evolving story.
Side note: not all police act like this.
City officials, but police officers, ideally, should do their best to protect citizens from government officials.
They’d probably have defenders if they were required to make split second decisions.
I’m not sure how it works there, but it’s up to a Magistrate in some places.
It’s entirely possible that is what will happen in court. Charges deal with probable cause, which falls far short of the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard of court proceedings.
Maybe. On the other side of the equation the fact they make split second decisions is why high standards should be expected. Or at least not grabbing on to moving cars and then pressing charges, which doesn’t seem like a very high standard to me, but I suppose I wasn’t the one making that split decision.
The fact it is going to court is the problem. Being a dumbass and projecting the burden of proof of responsibility to someone else is not reflective of a high standard, or a level of blind trust exhibited by so many.
You’ve already advocated for his going to court.
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What if they grab onto a fleeing human and get dragged along for a few feet?
Do most you feel that Scottie didn’t contribute a single aspect for him getting arrested? Are you saying that the policeman was not dragged, but just fell down or something similar? Or are you saying that the policeman might have been dragged, but Scottie wasn’t aware he was dragging anyone? (Here: We might see that possibility, but should understand that the policeman would still believe that Scottie was just fine with dragging him down the road. Surely, you would expect to get arrested, if for no other reason that you were operating the vehicle that was dragging the policeman. What you knew or didn’t know would have to be determined in court.)
IMO, it seems highly likely that Scottie contributed to him being arrested.
Specifically for failing to stop when instructed, explicitly separate from the assault charge. In the context of the original story. If turns out he was getting mixed signals the whole fiasco is horseshit.
Yeah fuck it. They should probably try to tackle trains and wrestle airplanes too.
So you just disagree with the charge, which is totally separate from abuse of power by police.
Here, you seem to be back to a best-practices/tactics needing to be followed in order for a warrant to be issued against a suspect.
Regardless of how this turns out, this doesn’t appear to be a great case of police abuse or anything. There are plenty of cases that can be used to highlight that.
Is it possible that the cop put his hand in the vehicle for a lawful purpose and then decided to hang on when it began moving so he didn’t get crushed by the rear wheels?
Is it possible that some other explanation exists?
I just don’t understand how you can reach the conclusion that only reckless actions can lead to that outcome, especially since none of us know what happened.
@SkyzykS explained it well.
I happen to agree that combat sports would be cooler in the business world, but not many higher ups are down to eat shit on the mats.
Most people aren’t.
If you mean the cop held onto the car while Scheffler braked, sure. Did he “drag” him? Dragging implies the cop was off his feet - no video or eyewitnesses support that narrative.
FWIW I was a golf pro for several years. Some at a local muni, some at a high end resort course. I also was the General Manager of a low end country club.
No douchebags at the muni - mostly blue collar working guys that were rats. Every muni has them. Too cheap to spend money on a lesson but would spend thousands of dollars on range balls repeating the same mistakes while sleeping in their car in the parking lot.
Golf is a fascinating game. Less than twenty percent of regular golfers break 100 - I think that puts them in the top 2% of the population.
Robin Williams nailed it.
Technically possible sure. I don’t see assault in any of the presented scenarios though. Will be interested to watch developments.
I do disagree with the charge. I also disagree it’s totally separate from abuse of power. Especially considering developments in the story. Using power to levy charges erroneously is a textbook definition of abuse and increasingly appears to be the case.
Are you suggesting that the police just run around charging people willy nilly because “the courts”?
Absolutely.
His pants testifies that something destructive happened to them.
You posted the source that included, “The officer was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment, and his pants — valued at $80, according to the report — were a total loss.”
Maybe when he attached himself to the car the tires abraded them. I am sure if there is evidence, it will be introduced in court.
Maybe he just shit himself.
Treatment, lol - for an abrasion and a swelling of his wrist.
From reaching into a moving car that was following the directions of LMPD.
Pretty sure all charges get dropped. There is no sense trying this case in this forum.
Not all cops lie - clearly this guy is trying to be a hero at a golf tournament.
Most of my in-laws are cops. I hear the stories.
Dude got pissy because Scottie didn’t stop immediately because Scottie was confused - he went rogue, reached inside the car while Scottie slowed to a stop. Cop banged on the windshield, reached in and dragged Scottie out.
What a hero.