[quote]ILOVEGWBUSH3 wrote:
Rainjack lives in an alternate universe where Scott Peterson was innocent and Iraq had WMDs and was behind the bombing of the world trade center! He believes in Santa too.[/quote]
You guys are goofy, and missing the point entirely. He was merely saying that y’all are screaming for Peterson’s blood (I happen to think he’s guilty, too), but have nothing but “where’s the evidence?” comments to make about WMD’s and Iraq. It’s called… a double standard, and rainjack was merely noting it. There’s no hard evidence linking Peterson to his wife’s murder, either. It’s all circumstantial. Just like the WMD evidence. Get it?
Interesting how the press stated that he killed his “unborn baby.” Plenty of mothers have been doing that since 1973. No wait, I’m wrong on that, they are merely killing their fetuses.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
rainjack: It is you who are deaf, dumb and blind. Overwhelming evidence for the war in Iraq…lolol. You are so brainwashed you have no idea. [/quote]
The evidence you laugh at was good enough to convince the UN security Council - on 17 separate occasions. It was good enough to fool the ENTIRE U.S. Congress. It was good enough to cause our troops to begin the assault on Bahgdad in MOPP4. Yeah - I don’t have a clue.
[quote]ILOVEGWBUSH3 wrote:
Rainjack lives in an alternate universe where Scott Peterson was innocent and Iraq had WMDs and was behind the bombing of the world trade center! He believes in Santa too.[/quote]
The point isn’t whether, or not, Peterson is guilty. I’ve never commented on his guilt or innocence.
Both cases were built on overwhelming circumstantial evidence.
I’m not going to waste my time on connecting the dots for you guys - so just suffice it to say you are hypocrites.
And on a very personal note - YOU LEAVE SANTA THE FUCK OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION!!!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Interesting how the press stated that he killed his “unborn baby.” Plenty of mothers have been doing that since 1973. No wait, I’m wrong on that, they are merely killing their fetuses.[/quote]
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
rainjack: It is you who are deaf, dumb and blind. Overwhelming evidence for the war in Iraq…lolol. You are so brainwashed you have no idea.
The evidence you laugh at was good enough to convince the UN security Council - on 17 separate occasions. It was good enough to fool the ENTIRE U.S. Congress. It was good enough to cause our troops to begin the assault on Bahgdad in MOPP4. Yeah - I don’t have a clue.
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Most of the people who actually believe this are Americans who’ve had their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of U.S. propaganda. Most of the world outside of us laughs at our “evidence” and trembles in fear of our leaders imperial foreign policy. WE, not anyone in the so-called axis of evil are the most feared country in the world. And to quote vroom “All the evidence that has been discedited”. Bwhahahah!!!
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most of the people who actually believe this are Americans who’ve had their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of U.S. propaganda. Most of the world outside of us laughs at our “evidence” and trembles in fear of our leaders imperial foreign policy. WE, not anyone in the so-called axis of evil are the most feared country in the world. And to quote vroom “All the evidence that has been discedited”. Bwhahahah!!![/quote]
Zep: So you’re saying that Saddam didn’t violate UN resolutions? Yes he did. He also went so far as to block UN weapons inpectors from doing their jobs. A lot.
And as for your “America is Scary” statement, I agree. If you attack my country, kidnap and torture our citizens, or harbor, aid, and abet terrorists who do the above, we will kick your ass. Simple enough? Don’t tread on me, motherfucker.
Most of the people who actually believe this are Americans who’ve had their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of U.S. propaganda. Most of the world outside of us laughs at our “evidence” and trembles in fear of our leaders imperial foreign policy. WE, not anyone in the so-called axis of evil are the most feared country in the world. And to quote vroom “All the evidence that has been discedited”. Bwhahahah!!![/quote]
Kerry is on tape talking about Iraq’a WMD’s. The UN security council voted 17 times based on the fact that they believed Iraq had WMD’s. Ted Kennedy is on tape talking about Iraq’s WMD’s.
Were these heroes of yours brainwashed by all the propaganda?
I’ll type this really slow so you stump-headed idiots can understand the parallel I am trying to draw.
You vilify Bush for acting on circumstantial evidence wrt Iraq.
You cheer for the death of of Scott Peterson based on circumstantial evidence.
Is there anything that doesn’t smell right in your reactions to these two incidents?
It seems that those with the bloodlust for Peterson are guilty of having “their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of… propaganda”
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
Most of the people who actually believe this are Americans who’ve had their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of U.S. propaganda. Most of the world outside of us laughs at our “evidence” and trembles in fear of our leaders imperial foreign policy. WE, not anyone in the so-called axis of evil are the most feared country in the world. And to quote vroom “All the evidence that has been discedited”. Bwhahahah!!!
Zep: So you’re saying that Saddam didn’t violate UN resolutions? Yes he did. He also went so far as to block UN weapons inpectors from doing their jobs. A lot.
And as for your “America is Scary” statement, I agree. If you attack my country, kidnap and torture our citizens, or harbor, aid, and abet terrorists who do the above, we will kick your ass. Simple enough? Don’t tread on me, motherfucker.
P.S. Why did you laugh at the end of your post?
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Should we go to war if Saddam violated U.S. ahem! I mean U.N. resolutions? Depends. What resolutions did he violate and do they rise to the level of war?
The U.S. violates Security Council Resolutions ALL THE TIME! Should other country’s invade us? Maybe we should kick our own ass to teach us a lesson.
The U.S. bribes and threatens the U.N. punishing counties which refuse to toe the U.S. line in the Security Council.
Also the U.S. supports terrorists who do all the bad things you talk about. However you won’t know that if you read the mass media propaganda.
Now if Saddam indeed was blocking U.N. weapons inspectors with the apparent objective to hide WMD’s, then he did a pretty good job with those hiding places huh?
I believe the most important thing is to apply to ourselves the standards we apply to others.
I laughed because I thought what vroom said was right on the money.
Most of the people who actually believe this are Americans who’ve had their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of U.S. propaganda. Most of the world outside of us laughs at our “evidence” and trembles in fear of our leaders imperial foreign policy. WE, not anyone in the so-called axis of evil are the most feared country in the world. And to quote vroom “All the evidence that has been discedited”. Bwhahahah!!!
Kerry is on tape talking about Iraq’a WMD’s. The UN security council voted 17 times based on the fact that they believed Iraq had WMD’s. Ted Kennedy is on tape talking about Iraq’s WMD’s.
Were these heroes of yours brainwashed by all the propaganda?
I’ll type this really slow so you stump-headed idiots can understand the parallel I am trying to draw.
You vilify Bush for acting on circumstantial evidence wrt Iraq.
You cheer for the death of of Scott Peterson based on circumstantial evidence.
Is there anything that doesn’t smell right in your reactions to these two incidents?
It seems that those with the bloodlust for Peterson are guilty of having “their mind shaped and molded by a daily assault of… propaganda”[/quote]
First off fool, who gives a fuck what high level politicians say. You are so wrapped up in your own “us vs. them” mentality that you can’t think independently. You sight democrats, assuming I’m one, because I don’t like Bush. I never voted for a democrat in my life! The democrats AND republicans are a big part of the problem. They are out for the interests of the elite not for the common folk. Were they given a line of propaganda? Yes. Did they really believe it? That is highly questionable.
Secondly I never said a word about the whole Pederson thing as I didn’t watch any of it and wouldn’t feel comfotable commenting on the affair.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
First off fool, who gives a fuck what high level politicians say. You are so wrapped up in your own “us vs. them” mentality that you can’t think independently.[/quote]
This is a political message board. What politicians say and do is pretty much the whole idea of political dicussions - but then again I’m a fool and in between eating crayons, so maybe I don’t have a clue.
Are you now the designated arbitor of independent thought? I guess I didn’t get the memo.
I find it just a wee bit much for you to get on here and regurgitate the left-wing/christians-are-the-devil bullshit, and then expect people to see you as as renegade independent thinker.
You walk like a duck, and quack like a duck - quit calling yourself an eagle.
Did you not read the title of this thread? Did you not read the posts on here? I guess it was your Independent thought process that led you in here to start talking about shit you know nothing about.
How did the subjects on this thread flow from Scott Petersen to abortion to Republicans to Iraq? Is there anything that won’t end up in regurgitating a bunch of accusations about the build up to and execution of the Iraq conflict? W/r/t Iraq, can we at least keep it to new arguments or new accusations – the old ones were played out on other threads. You’re not going to convince anyone by regurgitating some version of “Bush lied, people died!”
BTW, Scott Petersen was guilty as sin, anc circumstantial evidence is just fine and dandy for a basis for a conviction.
BostonBarrister wrote:
How did the subjects on this thread flow from Scott Petersen to abortion to Republicans to Iraq? Is there anything that won’t end up in regurgitating a bunch of accusations about the build up to and execution of the Iraq conflict? W/r/t Iraq, can we at least keep it to new arguments or new accusations – the old ones were played out on other threads. You’re not going to convince anyone by regurgitating some version of “Bush lied, people died!”
BTW, Scott Petersen was guilty as sin, anc circumstantial evidence is just fine and dandy for a basis for a conviction.
I saw a parallel between the Peterson case and the WMD case.
EVIDENTLY - either the parallel isn’t there and I’m just seeing things, or I can’t communicate well enough to make my point discernable to everyone.
I had no intentions of regurgitating the Iraq thing - but sometimes it’s out my control.
As to Scott P., while I’m sure there are interesting explanations for why he was driving down toward Mexico with multiple thousands of dollars on hand and a newly-died coif right before he was apprehended, for why he was trying to sell Laci’s car and their house in the immediate time period after her disappearance, for why Laci and Connor’s bodies were found in the vicinity of where Scott happened to go fishing when she disappeared (but where he was not in the habit of fishing), and even for why he told different people he was golfing or fishing that day – just from what I gleaned from moments of overhearing Greta van Sustern – remember that the standard for crimial conviction is “beyond a reasonable doubt”, with emphasis on the word “reasonable.”
I saw a parallel between the Peterson case and the WMD case.
EVIDENTLY - either the parallel isn’t there and I’m just seeing things, or I can’t communicate well enough to make my point discernable to everyone.[/quote]
I know what you were trying to get at, and it’s not a bad point. The two situations are pretty different though. There’s an excellent argument to be made that there should be a much lesser standard of proof in situations such as Iraq than in a court room, but that is another thread that I don’t feel like starting at the moment…
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Zeppelin795 wrote:
First off fool, who gives a fuck what high level politicians say. You are so wrapped up in your own “us vs. them” mentality that you can’t think independently.
This is a political message board. What politicians say and do is pretty much the whole idea of political dicussions - but then again I’m a fool and in between eating crayons, so maybe I don’t have a clue.
Are you now the designated arbitor of independent thought? I guess I didn’t get the memo.
You sight democrats, assuming I’m one, because I don’t like Bush. I never voted for a democrat in my life! The democrats AND republicans are a big part of the problem.
I find it just a wee bit much for you to get on here and regurgitate the left-wing/christians-are-the-devil bullshit, and then expect people to see you as as renegade independent thinker.
You walk like a duck, and quack like a duck - quit calling yourself an eagle.
Secondly I never said a word about the whole Pederson thing as I didn’t watch any of it and wouldn’t feel comfotable commenting on the affair.
Did you not read the title of this thread? Did you not read the posts on here? I guess it was your Independent thought process that led you in here to start talking about shit you know nothing about.
You my friend, are the fool.
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You make accusations w/o a trace of evidence. Saying that Kerry, Kennedy or any democrat is a hero of mine is just one example. Another is your implication that I have said Christians are the devil. Please show me where I’ve said or implied this. Gee no wonder you believe the Bush Administration!!!
You, my friend mentioned the war first on this thread. If you wanted to absolutely avoid it then maybe you should have drawn a different comparison.
You make accusations w/o a trace of evidence. Saying that Kerry, Kennedy or any democrat is a hero of mine is just one example. Another is your implication that I have said Christians are the devil. Please show me where I’ve said or implied this. Gee no wonder you believe the Bush Administration!!! [/quote]
From the New Crusades thread:[quote]
?I just don’t think Christians are really thinking this through. They listen to W. invoke the name of Christ and all of the sudden he must be doing God’s work. It is absolutely lazy and disgraceful thinking.[/quote]
Maybe not the devil - but lazy and disgraceful. My bad.
As for the whole “I’m-not-a-democrat-so-fuck-off” routine - You walk like a duck and quack like a duck. I know. I know. You’ve never voted for a democrat blah blah blah…you voted green yada yada yada…But your rhetoric on these boards scream liberal.
If you’re truly the renegade independent thinker you fashion yourself to be, I don’t think you would have to keep telling everyone how independent you are
I didn’t intend to open the war discussion on this thread. If your independent, renegade thinking brain would actually comprehend the words that are written on this thread - you might have already known this by now.
You make accusations w/o a trace of evidence. Saying that Kerry, Kennedy or any democrat is a hero of mine is just one example. Another is your implication that I have said Christians are the devil. Please show me where I’ve said or implied this. Gee no wonder you believe the Bush Administration!!!
From the New Crusades thread:
?I just don’t think Christians are really thinking this through. They listen to W. invoke the name of Christ and all of the sudden he must be doing God’s work. It is absolutely lazy and disgraceful thinking.
Maybe not the devil - but lazy and disgraceful. My bad.
As for the whole “I’m-not-a-democrat-so-fuck-off” routine - You walk like a duck and quack like a duck. I know. I know. You’ve never voted for a democrat blah blah blah…you voted green yada yada yada…But your rhetoric on these boards scream liberal.
If you’re truly the renegade independent thinker you fashion yourself to be, I don’t think you would have to keep telling everyone how independent you are
You, my friend mentioned the war first on this thread. If you wanted to absolutely avoid it then maybe you should have drawn a different comparison.
I didn’t intend to open the war discussion on this thread. If your independent, renegade thinking brain would actually comprehend the words that are written on this thread - you might have already known this by now.[/quote]
No not the devil - not even close.
Well obviously I have to keep telling YOU I’m not a democrat because you keep accusing me of idolizing them.
Yeah I understand you contrasting Bush/Pederson I just don’t think it works since the mountain of evidence you talk about has been dwindled down to a mole hill.
This is one of those issues that if I am wrong, better to be wrong on the side of protecting a life, than to be wrong on the side of protecting a womans right to take that life…
