Scientist Say Global Cooling is Here

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/11/years-global-cooling-coming-say-leading-scientists/

From Miami to Maine, Savannah to Seattle, America is caught in an icy grip that one of the U.N.'s top global warming proponents says could mark the beginning of a mini ice age.

Oranges are freezing and millions of tropical fish are dying in Florida, and it could be just the beginning of a decades-long deep freeze, says Professor Mojib Latif, one of the world’s leading climate modelers.

Latif thinks the cold snap Americans have been suffering through is only the beginning. He says we’re in for 30 years of cooler temperatures – a mini ice age, he calls it, basing his theory on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the world’s oceans.

Latif, a professor at the Leibniz Institute at Germany’s Kiel University and an author of the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report, believes the lengthy cold weather is merely a pause – a 30-years-long blip – in the larger cycle of global warming, which postulates that temperatures will rise rapidly over the coming years.

At a U.N. conference in September, Latif said that changes in ocean currents known as the North Atlantic Oscillation could dominate over manmade global warming for the next few decades. Latif said the fluctuations in these currents could also be responsible for much of the rise in global temperatures seen over the past 30 years.

Latif is a key member of the UN’s climate research arm, which has long promoted the concept of global warming. He told the Daily Mail that “a significant share of the warming we saw from 1980 to 2000 and at earlier periods in the 20th Century was due to these cycles – perhaps as much as 50 percent.”

According to the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado, the warming of the Earth since 1900 is due to natural oceanic cycles, and not man-made greenhouse gases. The agency also reports that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007.

Many parts of the world have been suffering through record-setting snowfalls and arctic temperatures. The Midwest saw wind chills as low as 49 degrees below zero last week, while Europe saw snows so heavy that Eurostar train service and air travel were canceled across much of the continent. In Asia, Beijing was hit by its heaviest snowfall in 60 years.

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LOL, Global warming leads to global cooling! What about the Polar Bears? !!!

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
LOL, Global warming leads to global cooling! What about the Polar Bears? !!!

V[/quote]

the polar bears’ll be vacationing in Miami … just you wait!!

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Well, I am not jumping on any band wagon…A couple of weeks of cold weather does not an “ice age” make and vice versa. The Earth’s temp is in constant flux for thousands of reason.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Well, I am not jumping on any band wagon…A couple of weeks of cold weather does not an “ice age” make and vice versa. The Earth’s temp is in constant flux for thousands of reason.[/quote]

So I should cancel my order on the coal powered Hummer?

V

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I read about the whole “global warming leads to global cooling” thing awhile ago. Seems logical but I doubt manmade CO2 (which accounts for approximately 8% of total CO2 emissions) has anything to do with it. I’m much more worried about the water acidity problem ( http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rising-acidity-in-the-ocean ) which seems to be a direct result of manmade CO2.

I sure do enjoy electricity though.

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The Russian work with Antarctic ice-cores shows that over the last half-million years (approximately), the Earth has always either been in very long term cycles of either cooling or warming, and always with subcycles imposing acute cooling or warming contrary to the long-term trend.

With very long-term Ice Ages always following the peaks of interglacial periods, which is a point we are approximately at.

However there is no way to know whether the very-long-term downward trend will start 10,000 years from now, one thousand years from now, a century from now, or started back in 1999 (viewed only statistically, this is highly improbable, but not impossible.) Unless modelling becomes far more accurate, it probably won’t be known until a thousand years after the fact.

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The earth’s temperature is not a linear thermostat. Just because the general trend is a warmer climate does not mean that every year will be progressively warmer. There will be ups and downs. The earth’s temperature was unstable enough before industrialisation; adding god knows how much carbon methane etc into the atmosphere a year will just make it more unstable. The planet may not become universally warmer. Some places might get colder if the gulf stream migrates for example.

At the moment we have some pretty icy weather in britain. Everyone is saying how it rebuts climate change but going back 100 years winters like this were common. Just as one swallow does not a summer make, one cold winter does not disprove climate change

And before people say I’m a tree hugging lefty, the first person to bring climate change and specifically global warming to public attention was that well known socialist Margaret Thatcher in 1989

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Dude, I’m laughing my ass off at anyone who cites Fox news as a reliable source of anything but fertilizer.

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Yes, no doubt they are lying that this climate scientist is saying this. Good catch.

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[quote]raybbaby wrote:
Dude, I’m laughing my ass off at anyone who cites Fox news as a reliable source of anything but fertilizer.[/quote]
Dude, I’m not a fan of Fox News either, but there is absolutely no spin on this article. Get over yourself.

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Well, there is an error in it.

The National Snow and Ice Data Center is not an “agency” but is part of the University of Colorado.

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Dude, Im laughing my ass that you look constipated in your avatar.

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So Latifs answer to the question “If we are in the midst of a global warming crisis, Why is it so fucking cold?” is- get back to me in 30 years.

Those globalwarming-ologists sure are smart. Even when they are wrong, they are right.

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I found it interesting that these experts in Arctic ice say that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 27 percent in the last few years.

Funny how the global warming scaremongers would have you think differently.

But they’re not the sort to ever point out when facts are different, or have become different, than they have or had been arguing.

I’m sure many of them are still arguing about the summer sea ice still disappearing. Relatively recent there was an even a prediction of it disappearing entirely that year. It may even have been for this year: if not, then last year. But the AGW-ers never 'fess up to having been wrong in their predictions, do they now. Well, except in e-mails among themselves where they describe their failure to be able to account for current temperatures to be “a travesty,” said e-mails illegally deleted of course upon receiving a Freedom of Information Act demand to release them.

And hmmm, somehow the media has plenty of stories about the Climate Experts warning that the Arctic sea ice is likely going to disappear over the summer, but so few (if any) afterwards about how the AGW-ers predictions were 180 degrees wrong. But they surely will continue to tout the current warming-alarmism predictions from the same sources.

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well i think we can all agree on one thing, carbon monoxide is good for the enviroment and its good for you.

now lets all go wrap our mouths around an exhaust pipe and breath deeply.

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[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
well i think we can all agree on one thing, carbon monoxide is good for the enviroment and its good for you.

now lets all go wrap our mouths around an exhaust pipe and breath deeply.[/quote]

Because, you know, we just burn fossil fuels for the fuck of it. It doesn’t have anything to do with production of goods and maintaining our comfortable modern lifestyle free of many diseases, famine and death.

We should just like, respect the earth more, man. Who needs all these technologies and stuff, man. Now lets all go wrap our mouths around the bong and inhale deeply.

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[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:

[quote]zenontheterrible wrote:
well i think we can all agree on one thing, carbon monoxide is good for the enviroment and its good for you.

now lets all go wrap our mouths around an exhaust pipe and breath deeply.[/quote]

Because, you know, we just burn fossil fuels for the fuck of it. It doesn’t have anything to do with production of goods and maintaining our comfortable modern lifestyle free of many diseases, famine and death.

We should just like, respect the earth more, man. Who needs all these technologies and stuff, man. Now lets all go wrap our mouths around the bong and inhale deeply.[/quote]

Hey man, leave the bong out of this.

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Or you know companies that produce these vital fossil fuels that simultaneously fuck over the environment could put much more of their money into research and development making clean efficient renewable technologies and gradually phasing out fossil fuels that are damaging to our health. it’s not one or the other

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[quote]Bambi wrote:

And before people say I’m a tree hugging lefty, the first person to bring climate change and specifically global warming to public attention was that well known socialist Margaret Thatcher in 1989[/quote]

Yeah, but why?

Because she wanted to bust the coal workers unions, thats why.

The IPCC has been an organization with a political agenda from the very beginning.