Saying 'Yeeesss' to Answer the Phone?

[quote]NateOrade wrote:
Jack Nicholson had the right idea:

Buy a house about a mile down the road from yours and move a couple girlfriends into it. Visit every now and then.[/quote]

LOL Awesome.

I think women around the world have the fantasy of a white wedding from when they are kids - the fairy tale life as Prof said. But you could just as easily get engaged, take them on a holiday and have a party without actually signing away your possessions and sex life if things go pearshaped.

Prenup is most definitely the word. What’s mine, is mine.

There’s a lot of messed up marriages out there, for sure…and most likely those folks got married for the wrong reasons:

  1. family pressure
  2. desperation
  3. the ‘next step’ (sh*t of get off the pot) reasoning
  4. they’re both needy in their own ways.

But I’ve been with my wife for 11 years, married for 8, and we’re best friends (cue the ‘awww’ studio audience music, I know).

She ‘gets’ me and I ‘get’ her.

Not to say we don’t argue or have things we don’t agree on, but we know what things we enjoy together, what things we enjoy apart, we know we each need alone time as well, and we also like talking and being around each other.

Is that an oddity? If it is, then I think a lot of the social ‘norms’ out there DO need to be thrown out, and yeah, maybe a helluva lot less people SHOULD be married. It is NOT the same as just a more formal version of dating or engagement, but a commitment.

I’d think folks on this site would understand that very few people REALLY CAN make commitments like that - just look at how many fail at living a healthy lifestyle!

I think some people just THINK you’re supposed to be antagonist with your spouse 'cuz that’s what THEY saw growing up or worse yet, on TV…

But it’s like anything in the world. If I can’t fix it instantly, or get EXACTLY my way, I give up.

If your friends are telling you not to get married, etc. pull em aside, and ask them if they’re just ‘playing the married guy part’ or if they’re serious. If they’re doing it for a laugh, then you should tell them to man up and respect their wives. if they are having problems, LEARN from it. Don’t just assume that your situation will be the same. And remember the WRONG reasons I listed above.

Good post Lights Out!

I’m coming up on 10 happy years this month.

[quote]Ruggerlife wrote:
Good post Lights Out!

I’m coming up on 10 happy years this month.
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Congrats!

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.
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Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.[/quote]

Hey, don’t go and throw facts in the face of our generalizations!

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.[/quote]

No kidding. Every time I hear one of these stories I think I clearly divorced the wrong person. I wasn’t hard done by either. It was eminently equitable but neither one of us was handed anything.

Having said that, I’m still a big believer in marriage. I don’t know if I would do it again but when it was good (and it was, for a long time) it was very good. It is the best thing in the world to be bound to a person who gets you and is your best friend.

Despite the fact that many marriages end in divorce we needn’t stop believing that we can commit to another person like that. I don’t mean all white wedding dresses and flowers. I mean when the truly shitty stuff happens and that person is there for you.

On topic…I think the sound of your voice just pissed her off. My ex had an expression that, to this day, if I hear someone else say, gets on my tits.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.

No kidding. Every time I hear one of these stories I think I clearly divorced the wrong person. I wasn’t hard done by either. It was eminently equitable but neither one of us was handed anything.

Having said that, I’m still a big believer in marriage. I don’t know if I would do it again but when it was good (and it was, for a long time) it was very good. It is the best thing in the world to be bound to a person who gets you and is your best friend.

Despite the fact that many marriages end in divorce we needn’t stop believing that we can commit to another person like that. I don’t mean all white wedding dresses and flowers. I mean when the truly shitty stuff happens and that person is there for you.

On topic…I think the sound of your voice just pissed her off. My ex had an expression that, to this day, if I hear someone else say, gets on my tits.[/quote]

It’s because your a woman, everyone knows stuff can’t “get on my tits” if I don’t have any. This fact makes men superior.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.

No kidding. Every time I hear one of these stories I think I clearly divorced the wrong person. I wasn’t hard done by either. It was eminently equitable but neither one of us was handed anything.

Having said that, I’m still a big believer in marriage. I don’t know if I would do it again but when it was good (and it was, for a long time) it was very good. It is the best thing in the world to be bound to a person who gets you and is your best friend.

Despite the fact that many marriages end in divorce we needn’t stop believing that we can commit to another person like that. I don’t mean all white wedding dresses and flowers. I mean when the truly shitty stuff happens and that person is there for you.

On topic…I think the sound of your voice just pissed her off. My ex had an expression that, to this day, if I hear someone else say, gets on my tits.

It’s because your a woman, everyone knows stuff can’t “get on my tits” if I don’t have any. This fact makes men superior.[/quote]

There’s always those guys with moobs. But, they don’t count. They wear a bigger bra size that most women.

[quote]ukrainian wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.

No kidding. Every time I hear one of these stories I think I clearly divorced the wrong person. I wasn’t hard done by either. It was eminently equitable but neither one of us was handed anything.

Having said that, I’m still a big believer in marriage. I don’t know if I would do it again but when it was good (and it was, for a long time) it was very good. It is the best thing in the world to be bound to a person who gets you and is your best friend.

Despite the fact that many marriages end in divorce we needn’t stop believing that we can commit to another person like that. I don’t mean all white wedding dresses and flowers. I mean when the truly shitty stuff happens and that person is there for you.

On topic…I think the sound of your voice just pissed her off. My ex had an expression that, to this day, if I hear someone else say, gets on my tits.

It’s because your a woman, everyone knows stuff can’t “get on my tits” if I don’t have any. This fact makes men superior.

There’s always those guys with moobs. But, they don’t count. They wear a bigger bra size that most women.[/quote]

Everyone knows boobs= woman, irregaurdless of if you have a penis.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.[/quote]

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
There’s a lot of messed up marriages out there, for sure…and most likely those folks got married for the wrong reasons:

  1. family pressure
  2. desperation
  3. the ‘next step’ (sh*t of get off the pot) reasoning
  4. they’re both needy in their own ways.

But I’ve been with my wife for 11 years, married for 8, and we’re best friends (cue the ‘awww’ studio audience music, I know).

She ‘gets’ me and I ‘get’ her.

Not to say we don’t argue or have things we don’t agree on, but we know what things we enjoy together, what things we enjoy apart, we know we each need alone time as well, and we also like talking and being around each other.

Is that an oddity? If it is, then I think a lot of the social ‘norms’ out there DO need to be thrown out, and yeah, maybe a helluva lot less people SHOULD be married. It is NOT the same as just a more formal version of dating or engagement, but a commitment.

I’d think folks on this site would understand that very few people REALLY CAN make commitments like that - just look at how many fail at living a healthy lifestyle!

I think some people just THINK you’re supposed to be antagonist with your spouse 'cuz that’s what THEY saw growing up or worse yet, on TV…

But it’s like anything in the world. If I can’t fix it instantly, or get EXACTLY my way, I give up.

If your friends are telling you not to get married, etc. pull em aside, and ask them if they’re just ‘playing the married guy part’ or if they’re serious. If they’re doing it for a laugh, then you should tell them to man up and respect their wives. if they are having problems, LEARN from it. Don’t just assume that your situation will be the same. And remember the WRONG reasons I listed above.[/quote]

Good post.

And let me point out that while I don’t have Emily’s gift for concrete statistics, married men get laid more than single guys according to Men’s Health and some other pop culture sources and my own personal experience.

[quote]sen say wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

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I, absolutely, agree with this one.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

It’s because your a woman, everyone knows stuff can’t “get on my tits” if I don’t have any. This fact makes men superior.

There’s always those guys with moobs. But, they don’t count. They wear a bigger bra size that most women.

Everyone knows boobs= woman, irregaurdless of if you have a penis.[/quote]

Well duh. If you’re a guy, it gets on your wick :slight_smile:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.[/quote]

So the majority of the workforce is men and the overwhelming majority of men out earn their wives. Thanks for providing statistics that back him up.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:

Not to mention that the financial arrangement is great for the woman. If she divorces him, she gets paid for years and takes half the assets that she probably didn’t earn with a paycheck! It cost my father-in-law about 1.5 million with my mother-in-law. She’s already spent all of it and then some inside of 6 years.

Um…in 2001 women comprised 42% of the labor force, and nearly 25% of all wives out-earned their husbands.

So the majority of the workforce is men and the overwhelming majority of men out earn their wives. Thanks for providing statistics that back him up.[/quote]

Well spotted.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
sen say wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

I, absolutely, agree with this one.[/quote]

x2. That is great advice! I have a friend that is still paying for making that mistake.

[quote]AngryVader wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
sen say wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

I, absolutely, agree with this one.

x2. That is great advice! I have a friend that is still paying for making that mistake.[/quote]

I agree. I’ve always thought the perfect place to get married would be Vegas.

Weddings are such a waste of money. I guess if you are super rich maybe, but I’d much rather put the money towards something tangible.

[quote]Christine wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
sen say wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

I, absolutely, agree with this one.

x2. That is great advice! I have a friend that is still paying for making that mistake.

I agree. I’ve always thought the perfect place to get married would be Vegas.

Weddings are such a waste of money. I guess if you are super rich maybe, but I’d much rather put the money towards something tangible.
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Exactly! The friend I’m referring to dropped like 40K on his wedding. This was like 5 years ago. They are still married at least, but it seems that money could have been used on something like, say, a house.

[quote]Christine wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
sen say wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Women seem to see it as some right of passage where they will experience the happiest day of their fairy tale lives.

I occasionally offer my 3 sons bits of recurring wisdom…1 they all have memorized is: find out whether a girl they are serious about is interested in a big, expensive, fairy tale wedding…if said girl is, then get rid of her and find a girl more interested in the marriage than the fairy tale wedding.

I, absolutely, agree with this one.

x2. That is great advice! I have a friend that is still paying for making that mistake.

I agree. I’ve always thought the perfect place to get married would be Vegas.

Weddings are such a waste of money. I guess if you are super rich maybe, but I’d much rather put the money towards something tangible.
[/quote]

We did it at city hall with 20 people. No flowers, no cake. I never for one moment regretted the way we did it. I wanted to be married to him, I just didn’t particularly care for a wedding.

I’m stunned when I hear what people spend and go through to coordinate a wedding. I remember when my sister got married and we were wrapping plastic champagne glasses filled with mints with that net stuff. All I could think was 'You can fuck this for a game of soldiers I’m not doing it for mine." I still get counselling for helping with my sisters.