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Also,if you want to know more about vitamin b-17,do some research on it.Look up “Laetrile”. Learn why the government took out the bitter almond tree ,for NO reason,in 1995. Learn why you can’t get the drug in America unless you buy it from mexico.But I guess I made that up too.

[quote]Angelbutt wrote:
This is absurd.

Reaper, I’m not arguing with you about the effectiveness of natural methods. I believe they work, and I think they are better than pharmeceutical drugs in many cases.

I’m trying to determine the validity of the article you posted about B17. I have legitimate questions, which you have not been able to answer because you instead choose to make up arguments, put words in my mouth, and call me names.

Just address my questions like a rational person or let it go. [/quote]

See.Just putting words in my mouth.I never said vitamins yield energy. Vitamins do not yield energy.They assist enzymes that release energy from energy nutrients… when you guys quit putting words into my mouth I will,maybe,answer.For as of now I’m not gonna answer questions when they are not questions from my own mouth.

Differences between vitamins and energy nutrients:

Vitamins
Energy Nutrients

Structure
Individual unites
Linked together to form macromolecules

Function
Do not yield energy; assist enzymes that release energy from energy nutrients
Yield energy when broken down

Food contents
Amounts ingested and required are measured in micrograms and milligrams
Amounts ingested and required measured in grams

Also,if you look around there somewhere I put up a few studies that were done before the government banned the drug.Read the studies that where done. Some medical companies twist things(it goes back to "it’s all about the money),but thats what happened.I didn’t make the studies up.

[quote]The_Grim_Reaper wrote:
See.Just putting words in my mouth.I never said vitamins yield energy. Vitamins do not yield energy.They assist enzymes that release energy from energy nutrients… when you guys quit putting words into my mouth I will,maybe,answer.For as of now I’m not gonna answer questions when they are not questions from my own mouth.[/quote]

This is where part of the problem lies. Say what you mean. Particular words have particular meaning, and you used the wrong ones to get your point across. This happens fairly often in your posts and is probably the cause of much of the conflict.

I did look up laetrile - all I got was homeopathic/natural healing websites that look like they were put together by angry teenagers. I didn’t find anything that looked credible. Could you post a link or a citation for those studies again? I think they got lost when you posted 5 pages worth of information in one post.

I’m not saying you didn’t beat cancer reaper, obviously you did. But think of how many other changes you made other than taking in this supposed B-17. Couldn’t something else have caused the cancer to stop reproducing uncontrollably? Are you SURE this is what did it?

-Dan

Buff,this is the absolute truth.When I was 14 my doctor told me that I had cancer.I didn’t want to do chemo because I knew two people( my aunt and my friends mother) that have gotten cancer,but died because they went on chemo.After my docotor telling me to my face that I was full of shit,and didn’t know anything about cancer,especially at the age of 14( I was stupid at that age,I admit.But not dumb enough to be another lab rat).

So I started educationg myself about cancer.I started doing research about Natural cures. Then I started reading all this information about the government banning the bitter alomond tree,and trying to make the drug “laterile” illegal.To cut the long,boring story short,I did a number of things that,I believe, cured my cancer.

Maybe it wasn’t b-17 all by it’s self.But I know it was a HUGE part of what happened. After 2 months I went back to my docotor and he almost had a heart attack.Literaly.After about 5 months all of it was gone.As each month went by my tumors began to shrink. The first month 35 % of my cancer was dead.

I was also on a fast.I drank nothing but freshly made fruit juices and vegetable juices from my juicer. You see,it takes up a lot of energy when you’re always eating food.I’ve heard great things about fasting when you have cancer.Your body actually starts to consume the dead cells that cause health problems.With that happening,the vegetable and fruit juices that I made from my juicer really cleaned my system out.

On top of that I had the drug laterile.I also was eating so many seeds that had b-17 in them. You see,it was a combination of things that killed my cancer.Just remember one thing: you are your best doctor,not the drug companies. I’ll look and see if I have any of the studies saved on my computer.I agree.

Some of those homeopathic/natural healing websites do look like they were ran by" teenagers". Maybe some of them aren’t doctors,but maybe some of those pissed of teenagers once had cancer like I did; thats what made them put up websites with important information. [quote]buffalokilla wrote:
The_Grim_Reaper wrote:
See.Just putting words in my mouth.I never said vitamins yield energy. Vitamins do not yield energy.They assist enzymes that release energy from energy nutrients… when you guys quit putting words into my mouth I will,maybe,answer.For as of now I’m not gonna answer questions when they are not questions from my own mouth.

This is where part of the problem lies. Say what you mean. Particular words have particular meaning, and you used the wrong ones to get your point across. This happens fairly often in your posts and is probably the cause of much of the conflict.

I did look up laetrile - all I got was homeopathic/natural healing websites that look like they were put together by angry teenagers. I didn’t find anything that looked credible. Could you post a link or a citation for those studies again? I think they got lost when you posted 5 pages worth of information in one post.

I’m not saying you didn’t beat cancer reaper, obviously you did. But think of how many other changes you made other than taking in this supposed B-17. Couldn’t something else have caused the cancer to stop reproducing uncontrollably? Are you SURE this is what did it?

-Dan[/quote]

Hi all,

I’m a newcomer on this forum, however I’ve followed closely on that looming menace of supplement becoming prescription drugs and then sold at much higher prices.

Correct me if mistaken, but haven’t we reached the deadline WRT to supplement uniformization under the WTO ? I think the deadline was somewhere around mid August of this year. I followed it closely up until shortly after that deadline, and thought since then that we were out of the woods.