Help Disprove Stem Cell Supplement

could someone please help me find some articles about this product that my parents are hooked on. some marketing people enticed them into this new herbal drug that’s supposed to help cure everything.
the supplement supposedly claims this…
“(stem cell enhancer)adult stem cells (ASC), the stem cells present in the body after birth and in your body right now, also have the ability of becoming virtually any cell type of the body What does this mean? This means that adult stem cells placed on brain, liver or muscle tissue will rapidly become, liver and muscle tissue! Research indicates adult stem cells may constitute the natural renewal system of the body.”

here’s the site.
www.enhancestemcellsnaturally.com/

i would like to prove to my parents that it’s too good to be true.
especially if someone just knocks on your door like an Avon lady to sell it.

Show em the Christopher Reeve Southpark episode

Tell them if that really works, it’ll also encourage growth of their cancers.

(I only skimmed this article)

[quote]Matty_79 wrote:
could someone please help me find some articles about this product that my parents are hooked on. some marketing people enticed them into this new herbal drug that’s supposed to help cure everything.
the supplement supposedly claims this…
“(stem cell enhancer)adult stem cells (ASC), the stem cells present in the body after birth and in your body right now, also have the ability of becoming virtually any cell type of the body What does this mean? This means that adult stem cells placed on brain, liver or muscle tissue will rapidly become, liver and muscle tissue! Research indicates adult stem cells may constitute the natural renewal system of the body.”

here’s the site.
http://www.enhancestemcellsnaturally.com/

i would like to prove to my parents that it’s too good to be true.
especially if someone just knocks on your door like an Avon lady to sell it.
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It doesn’t really make any obscene claims. The quote you posted is a bunch of gibberish, it doesn’t actually say anything. Search to see if other brands sell whatever crazy extract is in the stuff, as they don’t post their ingredients (making it more sketchy).

There’s nothing to disprove, only a waste of money.

[quote]debraD wrote:
Tell them if that really works, it’ll also encourage growth of their cancers.

(I only skimmed this article)[/quote]

thank you! I’m going to print this out.
I think the supplement was claiming adult bone marrow cells but i may be wrong.

[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
Matty_79 wrote:
could someone please help me find some articles about this product that my parents are hooked on. some marketing people enticed them into this new herbal drug that’s supposed to help cure everything.
the supplement supposedly claims this…
“(stem cell enhancer)adult stem cells (ASC), the stem cells present in the body after birth and in your body right now, also have the ability of becoming virtually any cell type of the body What does this mean? This means that adult stem cells placed on brain, liver or muscle tissue will rapidly become, liver and muscle tissue! Research indicates adult stem cells may constitute the natural renewal system of the body.”

here’s the site.
http://www.enhancestemcellsnaturally.com/

i would like to prove to my parents that it’s too good to be true.
especially if someone just knocks on your door like an Avon lady to sell it.

It doesn’t really make any obscene claims. The quote you posted is a bunch of gibberish, it doesn’t actually say anything. Search to see if other brands sell whatever crazy extract is in the stuff, as they don’t post their ingredients (making it more sketchy).

There’s nothing to disprove, only a waste of money.[/quote]
I too was trying to find out what the ingredients was!
I’m going to try to get label from them but they live far from me. I will try to make tehm tell me over the phone or e-mail.

As someone who has spent a lot of time doing stem cell research for my thesis, I have not read a single piece of scientific literature that suggests you can induce stem cell growth by taking ‘aquabotanicals’. If such a product existed, diseases like Alzheimer’s would have been curable by now.

You’ll have a hard time disproving a product which makes such wild claims unless they actually spoke to a researcher. The concept sounds nice, but anyone who is familiar to the field will know how flawed it is.

One funny thing is the sole published article they have is from a journal with a very low impact factor (rating of research significance) that is not even peer reviewed. The article over 6 years old, which is pretty dated for this field.

If such a product existed, diseases like Alzheimer’s would have been curable by now.

That is far from true…there are many products out there now that can prevent Alzheimer’s but the patients don’t hear about them, as Big Pharma and their bitches(Western physicians) have no interest in curing anything…

Uhh yeah. The government has the cure for AIDS too right?

Well I know something that comes really close to just that with a fair amount of research. It also happens to be amazingly effective against cancers (of all kinds) and would be something I would take the second I found out if I ever had cancer.

[quote]rehabman28 wrote:
If such a product existed, diseases like Alzheimer’s would have been curable by now.

That is far from true…there are many products out there now that can prevent Alzheimer’s but the patients don’t hear about them, as Big Pharma and their bitches(Western physicians) have no interest in curing anything…[/quote]

The drug based paradigm to health is so flawed and bankrupt from its very inception with no basis in reality or human physiology for that matter. Why fix the problem when you can manage the problem(s) the patients have so as to create a monster residual cashflow. Big Pharma CREATED MLM! It also has created an environment where you are victims of your own genetic fate and made a majority of individuals reliant on their voodoo medicine when taking self-responability with diet, nutrition, and proper supplemenation could of solved the problem for much cheaper. Only problem? It takes work…

there’s way more money to be made in treatment than in curing/prevention

[quote]BigKDawg wrote:
It also has created an environment where you are victims of your own genetic fate and made a majority of individuals reliant on their voodoo medicine when taking self-responability with diet, nutrition, and proper supplemenation could of solved the problem for much cheaper. Only problem? It takes work…[/quote]

The body (and cancer for that matter) is not that simple. All the ‘preventative’ measures in the world may not prevent many types of cancers. Genetics play a huge factor, cancer is not entirely environmental, and its certainly not a conspiracy by “Big Pharma” to keep people sick.

yes cancer is entirely genetic, thats why your chances of getting it were 1 in 50 in 1900, yet today your chances are 1 in 2. Our genetics change approximately .001% per 100 years, so how the heck can genetics explain cancer? I see your icon says school of medicine. That’s great, I am also a grad student at a med. school. Trust me, I fell into the trap of being amazed at cellular mechanisms and G-protein coupled receptors. Forget about all your prostate cancer research and work on getting people healthy. There are already cures for cancer. LOok up Dr. Burzinksi in Houston. The FDA tried to close him down b/c he cured over 400 people who had terminal gliobastomas.

I never said its entirely genetic. Reread carefully. Its a delicate balance between environment and genetics, the point I was making is that is not completely one or the other- so this theory that you can prevent any and all types of cancer is ridiculous.

I really don’t see what point you’re making referring to Burzinski. He was conducting a clinical trial in a non-approved manner so it was shut down. We have laws and protocols for research in place for a reason. As a grad student you should know that. If he successfully treated 0% or 100% of his patients the rules still apply to him.

[quote]rehabman28 wrote:
yes cancer is entirely genetic, thats why your chances of getting it were 1 in 50 in 1900, yet today your chances are 1 in 2. Our genetics change approximately .001% per 100 years, so how the heck can genetics explain cancer? I see your icon says school of medicine. That’s great, I am also a grad student at a med. school. Trust me, I fell into the trap of being amazed at cellular mechanisms and G-protein coupled receptors. Forget about all your prostate cancer research and work on getting people healthy. There are already cures for cancer. LOok up Dr. Burzinksi in Houston. The FDA tried to close him down b/c he cured over 400 people who had terminal gliobastomas. [/quote]

http://quackfiles.blogspot.com/2004/11/saul-green-letter-to-wash-post-re.html

[quote]rehabman28 wrote:
yes cancer is entirely genetic, thats why your chances of getting it were 1 in 50 in 1900, yet today your chances are 1 in 2. Our genetics change approximately .001% per 100 years, so how the heck can genetics explain cancer? I see your icon says school of medicine. That’s great, I am also a grad student at a med. school. Trust me, I fell into the trap of being amazed at cellular mechanisms and G-protein coupled receptors. Forget about all your prostate cancer research and work on getting people healthy. There are already cures for cancer. LOok up Dr. Burzinksi in Houston. The FDA tried to close him down b/c he cured over 400 people who had terminal gliobastomas. [/quote]

You mean naturopathic/quack schools of medicine are doing research now? Wow. Let me know when your data on the ability of incense to make my ass hair grow thicker comes out. I’m sure we can get it into Nature or Science pretty quick.

Look, people definitely need to fix their diets, and there should be an effective national campaign to do so. But to claim there are cures for cancer is ludicrous. And to mention Burzinski as valid is like writing your paper using the results of the crackpot Korean cloning scientist.

you should be asking yourself why the FDA wanted to stop Burzinski when he helped several hundred people survive “terminal” cancer…and yes, there are protocols for research, but isn’t the entire point of the healthcare system to make people better? Well, if that were the case, the FDA would have been happy that Burzinski found a cure–at least for many. Oh and theh link to the quackwatch thing–that guy actually is the biggest quack of them all.

He lost his license in PA and moved down to NC. He had brought so many lawsuits against different alternative practitioners that he got into trouble. Do a little research before you go commenting on issues of which you have no knowledge–or if you do it comes from a biased source like the FDA, AMA, etc.

Incense? Yes, that’s what alternative and integrative doctors do is burn incense…it has nothing to do with healing the gut, balacning hormones…I guess you should tell all of the M.D.s who practice complementary medicine that they just burn incense…

And they dropped the case against Burzinski b/c dr. Julian Whittaker got involved and supported him with a legal team during the trial. It’s interesting that every doctor who actually helps anyone is on quackwatch. If your doctor tells you to eat low carb and quackwatch finds out, you are going up on there…