[quote]ZEB wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
I read your article on Global warming, I found it interesting and could not discredit in any way, like I say my mind is not made up on that particular subject.
Someone is right and someone is wrong on this (like most other) topic. I submit to you that the global warming farce is brought to you by a bunch of politically correct egg heads for a myriad of reasons. Glad you found the article interesting. There are over 32,000 (and growing) scientists who think that there is no man made global warming, I tend to agree.
You term Group think is most evident in these forums , the GROUP is Republican with a strong Libertarian streak, and a couple right wing Wackos, Most of them agree on Abortion, Anti Poor, and that any body that does not see things the way the group dictates is to be ridiculed and deemed not as intelligent as the GROUP. I see it differently, I see the GROUP as being incapable (for the most part) of original thought
I was speaking about the politically correct, not this forum. There are credible scientists who have taken a brave stand against the nonsense of global warming. However, there are other topics where those who stand outside the politically correct dare not say a word. You won’t hear about them on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN or any of the other mainstream media outlets.
Oh please, do not be disappointed
Right now we are in a major recession, and there is no way to break even. (Ask Any State).The last two Presidents that balanced the budget did not do so by cutting expenditures. They did it by creating the environment that creates a robust economy.
The only President I ever saw treat the economy any other way than you would run a business was George W Bush , even his Dad knew if you increase spending you have to increase taxes.
GH Bush was a domestic policy failure as President. But keep this in mind your hero Obama has raised the national debt more in just 10 months than the previous 5 Presidents {b]COMBINED[/b]. Why oh why does he think it’s a good idea to spend money in this fashion? How much longer can this country spend at these rates before the inevitable happens? On top of all of this he wants to have national health care, cost- 950 BILLION! This is a seriously bad President who lacks not only judgement, but experience and a strong knowledge of history. Have you been watching the value of the dollar tumble? We are in terrible economic shape and all he can do is think of more ways to spend money. It’s mind blowing, it is.
I have heard many Republicans say our health care system is broke that it is unsustainable, that we need to fix it. But they are afraid to do so, because the Insurance and Pharm companies have them by the balls
There are many people who think that the health care system needs to be improved, I am one of those people. But, there are very few republicans who actually believe that we should throw out the best health care system in the world for a government run mess. Why not fix what we have? What’s the rush for government control? As I’ve said when the government gives you something the money to do it does not fall from the sky it comes out of hard working Americans pocketbooks. It’s bad for the economy, bad for the democratic party (voters will punish them) and ultimately bad for the very people it’s supposed to help as they will lose rights. National heath care is a tremendously BAD idea and I pray it be defeated in the senate.
Glen Beck may or may not be a liar but he is truley an IDIOT.
Thank God for a free press, you can be an idiot and still be heard. But, you said he was a liar and you have NOT proven that. I do not believe him to be a liar, a showman Yes.
I think most people are going to side with me on Cheney; this is not a legal proceeding. I and most Americans feel he profited handsomely from the rise in Halliburton stock. I can not prove anything , this is a court of public opinion.
Ten thousand people saying that they spoke to martians does not make it so. You and other left wingers can say what you want, and you do with ZERO proof, or in this case even a scintilla of evidence. This is what venomous creatures like Michael Moore has brought us. A society that deems it alright to destroy a persons reputation with ZERO PROOF, just because you disagree with them on policy matters. They call it the politics of personal destruction, and you are participating in it.
It seems okay in your eyes to pound republicans with every dam lie you can think of, it’s even cool in some circles. The good part is you never ever have to back it up, just say it enough times and it becomes truth at least with fringe types and some young people who don’t know any better . It is ignorant to think that Cheney or Bush prospered because of Iraq, and it’s also cruel to continue to beat a drum that does not now and never did have any merit. This is shameful on your part and no doubt one reason why more good Americans do not get involved in politics, people like you casting ridiculous unfounded assertions. Things that you just know must be true because you’ve heard it from scum like Michael Moore or moveon.org, and why not you disagree with their policy anyway they must be evil, since you and yours are so very virtuous. This more than any other part of current American politics makes me sick.
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Like I say, I can not find any thing with that article that I am qualified to disagree with, but I did ask you a question. The question was, if I were to sign the petition would that list of Scientists grow to 30,001? Meaning would I be another scientist signing on?
I know you were speaking about the (LIBERALS) but I was making the point that the people that call themselves (CONSERVITIVE) on this forum and others are as culpable.
Our dollar is devalued by many factors and most were from George Bush. Obama is not my hero (YET). He has many things to do before he is my hero. Like I said earlier L.B.J. and Bill Clinton (BOTH DEMACRAT) did not balance the budget my draconian cuts to our services. They did it by stimulating the economy to where it was robust enough to generate all moneys needed, Health Care could be that Boom.
On health care, I know three people that are vehemently opposed to Health Care Reform . One works for the City of Tempe AZ. The other is retired Military and the other is an employee at a major Airport. All three of their employers are what I would call social programs. And they are afraid of Socialized Medicine.
I heard yesterday that almost fifty percent of all health care is paid for by tax dollars.
As far as Glen beck being a liar, I think he spreads disinformation, I donâ??t think that requires much of a stretch to call him a liar. Here are a couple of ladies that would agree with me , Whoopie would have been my hero if she would have kicked his butt:)
I agree, it does not matter how many people agree that some thing is right. That is why I prefer reasoning over rhetoric. Would you not agree that it would be highly unlikely that a former CEO would have some stock put away of his former company ? I would call it highly probable
Why Do you not hold Glen Beck to the same standard you hold Michael Moore