[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If you had to choose between these ladies for your next POTUS, who’d get your vote?
Moral and clean versus aged and experienced; naive versus wicked. Choice?[/quote]
Hillary. The next failed president needs to be a leftie.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Oh and how has Obama’s we will be the world police but with an open hand thing gone for him so far? If you are going to be the worlds police do it right, If you are not don’t do it at all.[/quote]
It’s a shame Trey Parker and Matt Stone after doing the World Police puppet movie announced that they would never do another puppet movie.
An Obama World Police puppet movie done by them could be pretty good.
[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.[/quote]
Obama has a lot of naivete also. I think the purpose of the POTUS is to lead by GENERAL PRINCIPLES and then their staff/advisors ‘do the math’.
Sarah is more moral than Hillary (Hillary’s a nihilist), so I lean toward Sarah. She’s hot besides.
[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?[/quote]
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual.
[quote]John S. wrote:
I would say on the Economy and Foreign policy she(Sarah) knows far more then any of these clowns in office.
But I guess Truth is treason in an empire of lies.-Ron Paul[/quote]
Even if what she says is right, knowledge requires justification or understanding. I call tell a five year old facts about quantum mechanics, but when he repeats them back he doesn’t “know” more than you.
Then again, I often get the feeling that the same people who support Palin think that just a little bit of “common sense” is all one needs in order to understand topics like economics, evolution and ethics. You know, big fancy degrees and years of professional study in game theory, mathematics and biology aren’t required. Just good old common sense and perhaps popular books from the selves of Boarders. Anyway, if that’s your perspective, than I guess Palin has lots of knowledge too.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m no supporter of the “these clowns in office”, or more generally a supporter of any idealist or dogmatist who pushes their agenda at the cost of intellectual honesty, but neither am I a supporter of Palin and her anti-intellectualistic ilk. Besides, I think Palin herself clearly falls under that category of dogmatist anyway. Really I’m not sure what’s worse, an educated dogmatist or an ignorant one.
[quote]stokedporcupine8 wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual. [/quote]
Obama is brilliant, tops at Harvard Law. So if brains is your citerion, then he’s a … great president? LOL!
We want a moral president, someone who knows the difference between right and wrong. Enough with the ‘brilliant’ shyster lawyers!
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
stokedporcupine8 wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual.
Obama is brilliant, tops at Harvard Law. So if brains is your citerion, then he’s a … great president? LOL!
We want a moral president, someone who knows the difference between right and wrong. Enough with the ‘brilliant’ shyster lawyers!
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Thanks for not reading the rest of my post.
[quote]stokedporcupine8 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
stokedporcupine8 wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual.
Obama is brilliant, tops at Harvard Law. So if brains is your citerion, then he’s a … great president? LOL!
We want a moral president, someone who knows the difference between right and wrong. Enough with the ‘brilliant’ shyster lawyers!
Thanks for not reading the rest of my post. [/quote]
Thanks for assuming I didn’t.
Hillary Would do a satifactory job , we may never recover from Palin being President. At least let’s wait until we have recovered from Bush
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
stokedporcupine8 wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual.
Obama is brilliant, tops at Harvard Law. So if brains is your citerion, then he’s a … great president? LOL!
We want a moral president, someone who knows the difference between right and wrong. Enough with the ‘brilliant’ shyster lawyers!
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In my opinion we do not need some one to decide what is Moral or not, we need a separation between Church and State. I do not like lawyers either, but they are a nessasary evil
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
In my opinion we do not need some one to decide what is Moral or not[/quote]
Great. Now roll back the welfare state and minimum wage. The government has no business running coercive charity programs or determining what a ‘fair’ wage is. Charity and what one pays for labor will be left to the individuals own conscience.
“But, but, now wait a minute!”
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
It is hard to look at Palin as a serious candidate, as she set her reputation as being a dim-witted unintelligent woman who runs from serious questions and issues.
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I’m really tired of people accusing her of this. The press did a great job of painting her as an idiot. It’s very easy to do, it happens in the editing room. The interviewer asks a question Palin gives a 3:00 answer and only 1:00 appears for the viewers to see.
When she’s given the opportunity to speak without the filter of the mainstream liberal press she comes off as bright and very much connected to the voters. case in point, her debate vs Joe Biden. I thought she did a great job, especially compared to Biden’s many gaffes. But, for some reason the press doesn’t talk about Biden’s mistakes, or for that matter Obama’s either (57 states?). Another example, how many are aware that the telepromter that she was using at the Republican National Convention stopped working about 7:00 into her speech? She completed that incredible speech and did a great job with no script. How many times have we seen Obama stammer in front of a podium when the teleprompter isn’t on?
I know it’s cool to call Palin an idiot (especially around here) but she’s not, not even close. What she is, is a very good looking conservative candidate and the liberal press hated that, so they destroyed her.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
At least let’s wait until we have recovered from Bush[/quote]
At least we could have recovered from Bush. Tell me what will happen if Obama gets his way with his far left agenda?
Do you feel that cap and trade and a 900 billion dollar health care plan built on the backs of small business is going to turn this economy around? How about waffling on whether or not to send more troops to Afghanistan when your General is recommending it? There isn’t one single thing that Obama has done (or tried to do) since taking office that will help this country, but if everything he wants to do goes forward it will spell disaster, there will be no recovery from his leftist agenda.
Put the glass of koolaide down long enough to breath some fresh air will you?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
It is hard to look at Palin as a serious candidate, as she set her reputation as being a dim-witted unintelligent woman who runs from serious questions and issues.
I’m really tired of people accusing her of this. The press did a great job of painting her as an idiot. It’s very easy to do, it happens in the editing room. The interviewer asks a question Palin gives a 3:00 answer and only 1:00 appears for the viewers to see.
When she’s given the opportunity to speak without the filter of the mainstream liberal press she comes off as bright and very much connected to the voters. case in point, her debate vs Joe Biden. I thought she did a great job, especially compared to Biden’s many gaffes. But, for some reason the press doesn’t talk about Biden’s mistakes, or for that matter Obama’s either (57 states?). Another example, how many are aware that the telepromter that she was using at the Republican National Convention stopped working about 7:00 into her speech? She completed that incredible speech and did a great job with no script. How many times have we seen Obama stammer in front of a podium when the teleprompter isn’t on?
I know it’s cool to call Palin an idiot (especially around here) but she’s not, not even close. What she is, is a very good looking conservative candidate and the liberal press hated that, so they destroyed her.
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The problem is, she caused this herself. She made a bad first impression, and for her to overcome it will be difficult. I agree they did come down on her worse than other politicians.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
stokedporcupine8 wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Stupid, ignorant and vapid based on what evidence?
The fact she supposedly completed a Bachelor’s degree but couldn’t locate Serbia for you on the map. The fact in every test of her technical knowledge she’s come out flat and witless, and that somehow she thinks a crash cram test at 40 something years of age will somehow make up for a lifetime lack of learning. All of this indicative of her neo-white trash exurban real estate agent preparation, which provides nothing for this country or its future. Palin is so deeply brainwashed with neo-Cold War, ignorant, hillbilly, corn-fed propaganda, that even if she did learn basic foreign policy, economics, and geography, her governance ability would still be so disconnected form the real world that our Executive branch would resemble the puppet show they have going on in Turkmenistan. If Palin led America would crash or implode.
Palin Derangement Syndrome. Do you believe everything you hear on MSNBC?
All one needs to do is listen to Palin herself, no need to watch MSNBC. I really have no idea how you can defend the intellectual prowess of a woman who ran in a presidential campaign as the quintessential anti-intellectual.
Obama is brilliant, tops at Harvard Law. So if brains is your citerion, then he’s a … great president? LOL!
We want a moral president, someone who knows the difference between right and wrong. Enough with the ‘brilliant’ shyster lawyers!
In my opinion we do not need some one to decide what is Moral or not, we need a separation between Church and State. I do not like lawyers either, but they are a nessasary evil
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WRONG. What do you think lies beneath the surface of this economic catastrophe?
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Gluttony equals obesity and a list of diseases’ from diabetes to heart disease, cancer and stroke. This obviously leads to run away health care costs, paid for by THE TAX PAYERS
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Alcoholism (and drug abuse) equals accidents, higher crime rates, lost job time, divorce and a litany of other tragedy’s which end up being paid for by THE TAX PAYERS.
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Sex without commitment equals abortion, unwed mothers applying for government aid and another long list of problems including crime when kids grow up without a father- paid for by THE TAX PAYERS.
Most of our problems stem from a lack of a good moral compass. Someone better step up really fast and start setting a moral example (we know it won’t be Obama) or I assure you that within a 10 year time span you won’t be enjoying the sort of lifestyle you currently are.
I pray that this generation wake up and soon.
“Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand.”
John Adams
June 21, 1776
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
ZEB wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
It is hard to look at Palin as a serious candidate, as she set her reputation as being a dim-witted unintelligent woman who runs from serious questions and issues.
I’m really tired of people accusing her of this. The press did a great job of painting her as an idiot. It’s very easy to do, it happens in the editing room. The interviewer asks a question Palin gives a 3:00 answer and only 1:00 appears for the viewers to see.
When she’s given the opportunity to speak without the filter of the mainstream liberal press she comes off as bright and very much connected to the voters. case in point, her debate vs Joe Biden. I thought she did a great job, especially compared to Biden’s many gaffes. But, for some reason the press doesn’t talk about Biden’s mistakes, or for that matter Obama’s either (57 states?). Another example, how many are aware that the telepromter that she was using at the Republican National Convention stopped working about 7:00 into her speech? She completed that incredible speech and did a great job with no script. How many times have we seen Obama stammer in front of a podium when the teleprompter isn’t on?
I know it’s cool to call Palin an idiot (especially around here) but she’s not, not even close. What she is, is a very good looking conservative candidate and the liberal press hated that, so they destroyed her.
The problem is, she caused this herself. She made a bad first impression, and for her to overcome it will be difficult. I agree they did come down on her worse than other politicians. [/quote]
YOU and I only know what we see. The press portrayed her as being an idiot, that was her first impression. Obama and Biden on the other hand got a free pass every single time.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
…In my opinion we do not need some one to decide what is Moral or not…
You never cease to amaze me with your dry reservoir of knowledge. Our whole system of law is based on decisions as to what is moral or not.
Nobody on this entire forum whiffs at more pitches than you do, my friend. I suggest you change your screen name to “XpittbulllX” to signify your status as strikeout king.[/quote]
It is not really difficult to amaze someone like you.
I think you should change your name to something that you do (NOT) tell your boyfriend as he bends you over 
Moral is a relative term, we do not need a right wing Idiot dictating morality in America. We need someone with a morality that is a little more normal. I do not think morality is normally an issue, maybe if we had someone like Dick Cheney, it would be
[quote]Sloth wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
In my opinion we do not need some one to decide what is Moral or not
Great. Now roll back the welfare state and minimum wage. The government has no business running coercive charity programs or determining what a ‘fair’ wage is. Charity and what one pays for labor will be left to the individuals own conscience.
“But, but, now wait a minute!”[/quote]
You should take this over to the appropriate thread