Sagging Pants Means your a Homo

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

THANK YOU. I swear we work better as a fucking team.

Some of the crap these people believe is nauseating. If you didn’t grow up around the culture or don’t deal with people who did regularly, quit acting like a damned expert on it.[/quote]

lol big homie…I swear some people here live in a corn field somewhere but my man is from NJ where he can’t possibly be sheltered from reality. perhaps its his youth…

I’m not a fan of guys with their jeans sagging, its pretty stupid and I also do not agree with skinny jeans. People have no regard for how they look now a day. People need to realize that we are society that judges on apperance. If you look like a loser than that’s how you will be judged even if someone doesn’t say it to your face. For anybody reading this who does dress like this Please have some respect for yourself, like the old say Dress for success. By some good fitting pants, shirts and a GOOD pair of shoes. It really does make a difference.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

I think you took that outta context homie.

I didn’t directly state they weren’t really dumbass “gangstas” that actually do go around shooting people up because I didn’t want some douchebag in here calling me stupid for labeling ALL saggy pant wearing blacks and wiggers as thug gangsta killers.

Either way, they are all tools and douchebags, wannabe or not. Plus, a real gangster in my book is old school italian and irish mobster. Not some cracked out jackass with saggy pants that runs around holding a gun sideways shooting randomly that couldn’t hit the blind side of a fucking barn but thinks he’s badass because he robs innocent people and slings dope on a corner.

That aint gangster, that’s fucking douchebag.[/quote]

Tell that to Suge Knight. I swear some of you are just clueless.

It is a fucking STYLE and nothing more. The fact that you read personality and mental capacity into it would be as retarded as assuming that since you are white, that you grew up in a middle to upper class household.

Yes, if someone is over 25 and still doing this, they are likely a loser. That would be because grown people have real shit to take care of that requires PANTS that don’t sit at your ankles.

Hell, half of the kids I treat lately don’t even wear shoelaces anymore. I will wait while some of you read tragic personality details into why.[/quote]

I dont care if its a “style” or not… wearing your pants so low makes you a dumbass and a tool. Just like wearing sunglasses indoors makes you an idiot.

I love driving to a party at night and as soon as you reach a shitty neighborhood you can tell as you see these dumbasses walking around with their pants below their asses, with their huge hats sideways with the sticker still on.

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

I think you took that outta context homie.

I didn’t directly state they weren’t really dumbass “gangstas” that actually do go around shooting people up because I didn’t want some douchebag in here calling me stupid for labeling ALL saggy pant wearing blacks and wiggers as thug gangsta killers.

Either way, they are all tools and douchebags, wannabe or not. Plus, a real gangster in my book is old school italian and irish mobster. Not some cracked out jackass with saggy pants that runs around holding a gun sideways shooting randomly that couldn’t hit the blind side of a fucking barn but thinks he’s badass because he robs innocent people and slings dope on a corner.

That aint gangster, that’s fucking douchebag.[/quote]

Tell that to Suge Knight. I swear some of you are just clueless.

It is a fucking STYLE and nothing more. The fact that you read personality and mental capacity into it would be as retarded as assuming that since you are white, that you grew up in a middle to upper class household.

Yes, if someone is over 25 and still doing this, they are likely a loser. That would be because grown people have real shit to take care of that requires PANTS that don’t sit at your ankles.

Hell, half of the kids I treat lately don’t even wear shoelaces anymore. I will wait while some of you read tragic personality details into why.[/quote]

I dont care if its a “style” or not… wearing your pants so low makes you a dumbass and a tool. Just like wearing sunglasses indoors makes you an idiot.

I love driving to a party at night and as soon as you reach a shitty neighborhood you can tell as you see these dumbasses walking around with their pants below their asses, with their huge hats sideways with the sticker still on.

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and one might retort he hates driving to a party at night only to arrive in a trailer park to see lil dumbass dirty white kids running around barefoot while their daddy’s sit in a folding chair drinking a case of bud lite while watching NASCAR??? perhaps?

behavior does not have a race. races may display different styles, tastes and attitudes, but poverty doesn’t have a skin color and anti-social behavior has no skin color. today you’re just as likely to see a college student on the weekend sag his pants as you are a gang banger. people like to be part of a “tribe”…and use clothing, music, etc, to identify with that “tribe”. just because some of the “tribe” engage in antisocial behavior or have sex with their first cousin does not mean the entire tribe does similar :slight_smile:

[quote]Papa Nick wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
you know what, just read the snopes article. I didnt read it before I posted but it does an okay job explaining. Aren’t we talking about mostly young black men here? How can we not talk about race?[/quote]

Funny how nobody on this thread has mentioned any race in regards to sagging pants, except you (as it is not race specific).
Feel free to put your card away now.[/quote]

Oh c’mon. I’m talking about the stereotype and the origins. You guys are ridiculous.

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]Papa Nick wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
you know what, just read the snopes article. I didnt read it before I posted but it does an okay job explaining. Aren’t we talking about mostly young black men here? How can we not talk about race?[/quote]

Funny how nobody on this thread has mentioned any race in regards to sagging pants, except you (as it is not race specific).
Feel free to put your card away now.[/quote]

Oh c’mon. I’m talking about the stereotype and the origins. You guys are ridiculous.[/quote]

HI welcome to T-Nation. Leave your shit at the door No wait bring it in and dump in on the floor.

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]Papa Nick wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:
you know what, just read the snopes article. I didnt read it before I posted but it does an okay job explaining. Aren’t we talking about mostly young black men here? How can we not talk about race?[/quote]

Funny how nobody on this thread has mentioned any race in regards to sagging pants, except you (as it is not race specific).
Feel free to put your card away now.[/quote]

Oh c’mon. I’m talking about the stereotype and the origins. You guys are ridiculous.[/quote]

HI welcome to T-Nation. Leave your shit at the door No wait bring it in and dump in on the floor. [/quote]

^I dont know what that means.

Fine feel free to disregard race from the equation. It still seems to homophobic to me. The implication is that homosexuality is shameful and sagging pants is a sign of homosexuality and therefore shameful. I just haven’t read anything that leads me to believe that sagging pants actually is a sign of homosexuality rather than a simple style choice. There is the testimony of one guy who was a convict and could be a freakin lunatic.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]young n wrote:
sagging skinny jeans = fail

no wait SUPER FAIL[/quote]

I think it was cool in 1994. Doing it as a fashion statement now is tacky.

On the upside, I saw a Kid&Play flat top on a 16 year old last week in my office.

Full circle.[/quote]

AWSOME!

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]admbaum wrote:
I dont know how it is in the rest of the world but in Texas, if you sag in prison or jail, you not only put out but are also claimed. [/quote]

Not entirely true. Most of your younger inmates tend to try and sag their pants(it’s not allowed in first place)…but keep in mind that your younger inmates also tend to be the ones targeted for sexual deviancy.

I think that’s a big part of misconception of sagging viewed as “you put out.” [/quote]

This sounds pretty reasonable.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I swear some people here live in a corn field somewhere
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Present ::Raises hand::

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

I think you took that outta context homie.

I didn’t directly state they weren’t really dumbass “gangstas” that actually do go around shooting people up because I didn’t want some douchebag in here calling me stupid for labeling ALL saggy pant wearing blacks and wiggers as thug gangsta killers.

Either way, they are all tools and douchebags, wannabe or not. Plus, a real gangster in my book is old school italian and irish mobster. Not some cracked out jackass with saggy pants that runs around holding a gun sideways shooting randomly that couldn’t hit the blind side of a fucking barn but thinks he’s badass because he robs innocent people and slings dope on a corner.

That aint gangster, that’s fucking douchebag.[/quote]

so let’s examine this. first, the day of the “old school italian gangster” has past us by and, the romanticized version you believe in is a fairy tale. those old school guys would steal from thier mother if they could earn a dime doing it and would kill an alleged friend for profit.

they trafficked in drugs that are eventually filtered down to those same neighborhoods where the “gangsters” you derisively refer to “slings” the very dope the old school guys sold. they “taxed” innocent business owners, etc., in the name of making a profit. they even taxed you if you purchased or were involved in any commerce that involved an “old school” connected trade or service (concrete, trash hauling, fish market nyc in the old days, garment district, etc.) me thinks you watch too many movies, and that you believe what you see :slight_smile:

there is no honor among thieves - only sociopathic behavior, whether they are moder day black gangsters or so called “old school” italian or irish gangsters. I know…because I know both intimately.
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THANK YOU. I have no idea where this romanticized view of old school gangsters came from. A thug is a thug, whether he wears a suit or jeans. I know of no honest Italians or Irishmen who look upon mob activity with anything but disdain. And since you know both intimately, you know they were often more ruthless and callous than any new school gangsters.

But then, he uses words like “homie” and “wigger”, so it’s pretty obvious he lives in his own world, anyway.

[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

I think you took that outta context homie.

I didn’t directly state they weren’t really dumbass “gangstas” that actually do go around shooting people up because I didn’t want some douchebag in here calling me stupid for labeling ALL saggy pant wearing blacks and wiggers as thug gangsta killers.

Either way, they are all tools and douchebags, wannabe or not. Plus, a real gangster in my book is old school italian and irish mobster. Not some cracked out jackass with saggy pants that runs around holding a gun sideways shooting randomly that couldn’t hit the blind side of a fucking barn but thinks he’s badass because he robs innocent people and slings dope on a corner.

That aint gangster, that’s fucking douchebag.[/quote]

so let’s examine this. first, the day of the “old school italian gangster” has past us by and, the romanticized version you believe in is a fairy tale. those old school guys would steal from thier mother if they could earn a dime doing it and would kill an alleged friend for profit.

they trafficked in drugs that are eventually filtered down to those same neighborhoods where the “gangsters” you derisively refer to “slings” the very dope the old school guys sold. they “taxed” innocent business owners, etc., in the name of making a profit. they even taxed you if you purchased or were involved in any commerce that involved an “old school” connected trade or service (concrete, trash hauling, fish market nyc in the old days, garment district, etc.) me thinks you watch too many movies, and that you believe what you see :slight_smile:

there is no honor among thieves - only sociopathic behavior, whether they are moder day black gangsters or so called “old school” italian or irish gangsters. I know…because I know both intimately.
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THANK YOU. I have no idea where this romanticized view of old school gangsters came from. A thug is a thug, whether he wears a suit or jeans. I know of no honest Italians or Irishmen who look upon mob activity with anything but disdain. And since you know both intimately, you know they were often more ruthless and callous than any new school gangsters.

But then, he uses words like “homie” and “wigger”, so it’s pretty obvious he lives in his own world, anyway.
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We all know what it is. It is a racist mentality. They see “black gangsters” as “thugs” while somehow the old school Italian gangsters are romanticized as if they had more “class”…which is bullshit from the movies. Criminals are criminals yet everything associated with “black criminals” somehow defines an entire race or is seen as more negative.

Sagging pants may look dumb, but for the people here to read more into than that about people’s personalities or how much of a criminal they are (or the fact that it somehow makes them gay in and of itself) is a sign of bigotry.

Around here, it is no that uncommon among high school kids. If the guy is in his 20’s he is probably a loser with no real job. His race is irrelevant.

I saw a guy who had his pants so low that he couldnt take strides more than a foot long. He kinda just shuffled his feet to move (in the mall). Of course he had suspenders on over his 4x tall T. They must have been 5 feet long. It was pretty sweet actually.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]football061 wrote:
Honestly, around me and in the cities and shitty areas around me all the “wiggers” and black “gangsta” wannabe’s wear dumb ass baggy jeans. Fucking tools. They all act trashy as shit too.[/quote]

I’m going to give you a shift at our club, so you can tell the “black gangstas” that they are “wannabe”. I’m going to film it - should be good. Are the two dozen or so little bloods we get every weekend “wannabe”? ;)[/quote]

I think you took that outta context homie.

I didn’t directly state they weren’t really dumbass “gangstas” that actually do go around shooting people up because I didn’t want some douchebag in here calling me stupid for labeling ALL saggy pant wearing blacks and wiggers as thug gangsta killers.

Either way, they are all tools and douchebags, wannabe or not. Plus, a real gangster in my book is old school italian and irish mobster. Not some cracked out jackass with saggy pants that runs around holding a gun sideways shooting randomly that couldn’t hit the blind side of a fucking barn but thinks he’s badass because he robs innocent people and slings dope on a corner.

That aint gangster, that’s fucking douchebag.[/quote]

Tell that to Suge Knight. I swear some of you are just clueless.

It is a fucking STYLE and nothing more. The fact that you read personality and mental capacity into it would be as retarded as assuming that since you are white, that you grew up in a middle to upper class household.

Yes, if someone is over 25 and still doing this, they are likely a loser. That would be because grown people have real shit to take care of that requires PANTS that don’t sit at your ankles.

Hell, half of the kids I treat lately don’t even wear shoelaces anymore. I will wait while some of you read tragic personality details into why.[/quote]

I dont care if its a “style” or not… wearing your pants so low makes you a dumbass and a tool. Just like wearing sunglasses indoors makes you an idiot.

I love driving to a party at night and as soon as you reach a shitty neighborhood you can tell as you see these dumbasses walking around with their pants below their asses, with their huge hats sideways with the sticker still on.

[/quote]

and one might retort he hates driving to a party at night only to arrive in a trailer park to see lil dumbass dirty white kids running around barefoot while their daddy’s sit in a folding chair drinking a case of bud lite while watching NASCAR??? perhaps?

behavior does not have a race. races may display different styles, tastes and attitudes, but poverty doesn’t have a skin color and anti-social behavior has no skin color. today you’re just as likely to see a college student on the weekend sag his pants as you are a gang banger. people like to be part of a “tribe”…and use clothing, music, etc, to identify with that “tribe”. just because some of the “tribe” engage in antisocial behavior or have sex with their first cousin does not mean the entire tribe does similar :)[/quote]

I never said anything about race.

Anyone who dresses as I described above is a moron.

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

I never said anything about race.

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You didn’t have to. How dumb do you think the rest of us are? You wrote:

[quote]
I love driving to a party at night and as soon as you reach a shitty neighborhood you can tell as you see these dumbasses walking around with their pants below their asses, with their huge hats sideways with the sticker still on.[/quote]

Let’s analyze that for a second, Why do people with pants sagging live in “shitty neighborhoods”? I thought we were talking about “skater kids”? Since when is that typically associated with “shitty neighborhoods”? I mean, you even defined how the hat looks so we are obviously only speaking of one style now and not “skinny jeans that sag” as was the discussion previously.

Bodyguard countered what you wrote and related it to trailer parks…which are usually associated with “poor white people”. So, you were talking about white kids in “shitty neighborhoods” with “huge hats with the sticker still on”?

I am still confused as to why they live in “shitty neighborhoods”. I am also confused as to how you know every kid who does this is a moron.

Youth rebels. That is a part of life. The actions they take in order to rebel against their parents or even society do not define them as human beings unless they develop into ADULTS who hamper their own progression by continuing to act the same.

Some 16 year old is likely not hampering his own progression simply because his jeans sag. You know nothing else about the kid or how he does in school. You ASSUME.

I can’t wear a Kid & Play flat top at work right now without looking really odd. that doesn’t mean that when I had one that it made me a moron. I was far from it.

This site is full of people hating on people just cause there appearance… I know we as humans tend to judge alot but on this site it seems that they fucken KNOW who the person is IN AND OUT and is nothing more then his appearance so stupid.

Don’t sag your pants, the booty warrior might go after you.

Dont know if someone already said this.

The word “punk” also comes from prison I believe.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

I never said anything about race.

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You didn’t have to. How dumb do you think the rest of us are? You wrote:

Lol, whenever someone reads anything into your posts other than what you wrote, you call them retarded and tell them to focus on what you wrote. Yet, here, you do the same and there is nothing wrong with it?

I hate to break it to you, X, but not every post you see is racially motivated.

I agree with the melon. Anyone who dresses like that is a moron.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

I never said anything about race.

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You didn’t have to. How dumb do you think the rest of us are? You wrote:

Don’t put words in my mouth.

This has nothing to do with race so do not be a retard.

I have spoken and hung out with many of these kids who dress as we have described. I go to parties where these kids are at. They are IDIOTS and moronic. Stop defending idiots please. I know exactly how they do in school because Ive been to school with them.

I go to FIU and have not seen one person dressed as we have described.

Intelligent people do not dress like idiots.

I also live in south florida where it is only Hispanics and Blacks where I live. They are shitty black neighborhoods and shitty Hispanic neighborhoods.

Stop acting like a typical angry black person bringing race into everything. (Yea call me out on that one)