Sad State of Affairs

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]pookie wrote:
When I was young, I used to pray for a bicycle. I’d pray and pray, and never get that bicycle.

Then one day, it dawned on me: It was completely wrong to pray for a bicycle!

So I stole a bicycle, and prayed for forgiveness.

Once you understand how this God works, things really fall into place.
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Unfortunately, Pookie, God doesn’t work that way:

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:1-6

Did you catch that? True Christians don’t commit sin with the knowledge that God forgives. That just shows an unbelieving heart that is using Christianity for his own means and purposes which means not real Christianity which means not really saved which means…you know what.

Now that you have admitted to everyone you are a thief which is also a form of lying since you had to explain how you got that bike and I am certain that you didn’t come clean, consider God’s Word:

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

Sorry Pookie – God is not mocked!

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
orion wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:

What errors? I answered those very succinctly with Bible verses and commentary to show where I was not incorrect on that point. The summation of my Biblical argument about polygamy was that just because people do a certain behavior and God records this in His Word, doesn’t mean that God approves it. Otherwise, we would conclude that God is OK with murder, rape, incest, baby killing, etc.

Asked and answered. Next?

No, because God did not just record Davids behaviour he GAVE those women to him. He states that He HAD GIVEN MORE IF DAVID HAD ASKED HIM TO.

Your God is also so quick with His disapproving that it is kind of hard to believe he left something out that really mattered to Him.

Do I have to mention the details He goes into in Leviticus and Deuteronomy and yet polygamy is not mentioned ONCE as a sin?

You have an angry, jealous (His words, not mine) AND outspoken God, which is why you do not get to make shit up.

The reason why I insist on this point is for a Steveo charakter study:

Are you even able to admit that you were probably wrong if one argues with your own Holy Book, or is your mind so made up that you are only trying to justify your hatred for all kinds of behaviours , making your Bible your bitch if you have to along the way.

If I was wrong, Biblically, I would admit it. Unfortunately despite the smugness dripping with your every word, your analysis is simply wrong. The fact that God allows us or gives to us our fleshly desire again doesn’t mean that He approves it. In Romans chapter 1, God tells us that there are people who keep rejecting Him and so He “gives them up to vile affections, etc…” He doesn’t approve these things, but He allows them for the purpose of having that individual repent before it is too late by getting sick of their sin.

Also, if you would be correct on this point, Jesus Christ would then be wrong. That, sir, is as impossible as it is ridiculous!
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"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "
1 Kings 15:5.

David did not sin in the eye of the Lord except in the case of Uriah the Hittite.

Him, having several wives, was obviously not a sin , because the Bible contains no contradictions, right?

Jesus never spoke out against polygamy, I guess you are covered.

In fact he acknowledges it implicitly several times, without speaking out against it.

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
orion wrote:
And, for a quick encore:

" How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?"

Jeremiah 8:8

Your point is…???

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Papier is geduldig

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
Sorry Pookie – God is not mocked![/quote]

Yeah, but once you’ve accepted that you’re going to Hell anyway, there isn’t much left to scare me with… is there a hotter portion for unrepenting recidivists? Is there a section set on “broil” rather than “simmer?”

The way I see it, since I’m gonna pay for Eternity anyway, might as well get my money’s worth while I can.

I think I’m running out of room in my back yard to bury the bodies.

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[quote]orion wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
orion wrote:
And, for a quick encore:

" How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?"

Jeremiah 8:8

Your point is…???

Papier is geduldig[/quote]

Aber das Internet ist noch viel geduldiger als Papier, sicherlich.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Yeah, but once you’ve accepted that you’re going to Hell anyway, there isn’t much left to scare me with… is there a hotter portion for unrepenting recidivists? Is there a section set on “broil” rather than “simmer?”
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I believe that would be Circle Six, City of Dis. For heretics and unrepentant recidivists.

The “city”, Dante tells us, is a desolate plain surrounded by high iron walls, strewn with flaming tombs filled with the groaning spirits of the heretics. Here you will be whipped mercilessly for all eternity by the avenging Furies (blood-spattered, snake-haired female creatures).

So if you’re into goth BDSM, you just might enjoy it. :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
So if you’re into goth BDSM, you just might enjoy it. :P[/quote]

Dude, hell kicks ass. I can’t wait to die. I’d kill myself, but that would fuck up shit and I would only make it to level two, dammit! I needs me some level six!

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[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
So if you’re into goth BDSM, you just might enjoy it. :stuck_out_tongue:

Dude, hell kicks ass. I can’t wait to die. I’d kill myself, but that would fuck up shit and I would only make it to level two, dammit! I needs me some level six!

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Nope. Suicides get a free ticket down to Level Seven, where they hang by the neck from the twisted branches of gnarled, stunted trees laden with poisonous fruit.

From here, you may enjoy the view of the assassins, tyrants and warmongers bubbling away in the river of boiling blood, while over on your left you may watch the blasphemers, sodomites and moneylenders writhing in agony in an endless rain of scorching red-hot sand.

That is, if the Harpies (half-bird, half-woman), who make their nests in the Wood of Suicides, don’t pluck your eyeballs out. They are known to do that.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
The “city”, Dante tells us, is a desolate plain surrounded by high iron walls, strewn with flaming tombs filled with the groaning spirits of the heretics. Here you will be whipped mercilessly for all eternity by the avenging Furies (blood-spattered, snake-haired female creatures).

So if you’re into goth BDSM, you just might enjoy it. :P[/quote]

Ah, a travel guide. Exactly what I need. Seems like I’ll be seeing my mother-in-law again though. Dammit.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
From here, you may enjoy the view of the assassins, tyrants and warmongers[/quote]

They have a window that looks out on Washington DC?

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Nope. Suicides get a free ticket down to Level Seven, where they hang by the neck from the twisted branches of gnarled, stunted trees laden with poisonous fruit. [/quote]

For some reason I thought it was only two for a suicide. Thanks for setting me straight, bro.

Of course, now that I review some of this stuff, it turns out that I’m headed for level eight for being a seducer. Oh well.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
From here, you may enjoy the view of the assassins, tyrants and warmongers

They have a window that looks out on Washington DC?[/quote]

Hahaha! I knew you wouldn’t let me down, Pookie.

That is the correct answer.

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Can we just start over again? Please?

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Varqanir wrote:
The “city”, Dante tells us, is a desolate plain surrounded by high iron walls, strewn with flaming tombs filled with the groaning spirits of the heretics. Here you will be whipped mercilessly for all eternity by the avenging Furies (blood-spattered, snake-haired female creatures).

So if you’re into goth BDSM, you just might enjoy it. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ah, a travel guide. Exactly what I need. Seems like I’ll be seeing my mother-in-law again though. Dammit.

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Pookie, hate to break it to you, but in Hell you will not enjoy the company of anyone. The Bible teaches that Hell:

a) Is a place of torment.
b) Is a place of “outer darkness.”
c) Is a place of burning fire.
d) Is a place of “weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
e) Is a place that is eternal – it goes on forever and ever.
f) Is the place you will go if you don’t accept the Lord’s grace in salvation.
g) Is a place that God doesn’t wish that you go, but His eternal justice demands that you pay if you don’t accept what has already been paid for you.

There are many more things that could be said, but suffice it to say that Hell will not be “partytime.”

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
pookie wrote:

Ah, a travel guide. Exactly what I need. Seems like I’ll be seeing my mother-in-law again though. Dammit.

Pookie, hate to break it to you, but in Hell you will not enjoy the company of anyone.
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I think he was implying that his mother-in-law is one of the avenging Furies.

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
c) Is a place of burning fire.
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Now this is a peculiarity in english language that I have sometimes wondered about. Isn’t it obvious that a fire is burning?

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[quote]karva wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
c) Is a place of burning fire.

Now this is a peculiarity in english language that I have sometimes wondered about. Isn’t it obvious that a fire is burning? [/quote]

Not necessarily. It may be smoldering.

But somehow, “Bow or Smolder” just doesn’t have the same impact.

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[quote]lothario1132 wrote:

Of course, now that I review some of this stuff, it turns out that I’m headed for level eight for being a seducer. Oh well.[/quote]

Shit, I’m stuffed, it’s all levels for me!

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Politics are when seemingly good ideas get perverted with personal agendas and turn them in to something intrinsically evil. Politics are for people with nothing better to do than to bitch about how they or their ideologies are put upon. Principled people do not need politics and do not need to justify themselves constantly, once is usually more than enough. The media’s purpose in politics is to give importance to unimportant events and circumstances.

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[quote]steveo5801 wrote:
Pookie, hate to break it to you,[/quote]

Really? From where I’m standing, you seem to enjoy it immensely.

Good. I could use a little quiet time.

It also teaches that the Earth is flat and 6000 years old. I’m not too worried about Biblical accuracy.

That’s why I’m working on becoming a true masochist before dying. If pain = pleasure, it’ll be a blast, right?

Is that darker than simple ordinary darkness? What happened to the “inner darkness?” Did God use up all the supply when he was making the rectums?

Which gives off no light? How does a place filled with fire manage to be dark?

I’m glad to hear that my soul has lacrimal ducts and a full set of teeth.

Does any other part of my “equipment” make the trip with me too?

Quick question: If a newborn baby dies and goes to Hell, is he supplied with teeth even though he hadn’t grown them yet? Or does he have to do with gnashing his gums?

You mean is goes on forever, and then, when it’s done with forever it goes on for ever? What does it do once it’s done with ever too?

I really tried, man. It would help if all your claptrap wasn’t so laughable and ridiculous. As it is, having half a functional brain becomes an unsurmountable handicap.

Why the fuck did He create it then? If He hadn’t created Hell in the first place, we wouldn’t have to worry about going there, right?

Wouldn’t an all-loving God who didn’t create a Hell for some of His pawns be a more all-loving God than the One who does? If so, then God is not really that all-loving, now, is He?

That’s nice. God has created rules (His eternal justice) that even He can’t get out of. He must be a great lawyer.

Not much of an accountant, though.

…but none that bear any relation with Truth or Reality, so why bother?

Yeah, well I intend to put the place under new management and fix a bit of that bad PR they’ve been getting for the last few thousand years.

All the interesting people will be there, so how bad can it really be?