Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Died

That is fair. It is admittedly an assumption. This might be me finding information that fits my bias, but I think Pew is respected?

Yep. I was conservative as a teenager. I have shifted to the left as have most of my friends that were conservative at the time. I wouldn’t say I am far left or anything. I think this had a lot to do with how we grew up (conservative parents, private schools).

I have lolpics which is also pretty conservative.

The white guilt is strong in this one.

I’d have never guessed a progressive grew up privileged and went to private schools.(this sentence was sarcasm)

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No white guilt here. It is illogical to feel guilty about things I haven’t done.

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The Constitution only requires that when there is an opening in the SCOTUS, the President sends appointments and the Senate either confirms or not confirms them. Nothing is broken and there is no grand conspiracy nor precedent other than that. Obama was dealing with a republican senate and he was a democrat, so he could waste his time all day and night sending picks that they would not confirm, or he could spend his remaining time other ways.
If the senate was democrat at the time, he would have made an appointment and the senate would appoint the judge, the end.

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We’d need 101. Giving in to the democrats because they are threatening things would be the most cowardly thing to do. Most of what they are threatening is currently illegal or unconstitutional regardless.
This is why the 2016 election was so important. The presidency lasts 4 years, not 3 and 2/3rds.
If Hillary had won, it might well be me panicking except for she would have already tipped the scales to the left and this appointment wouldn’t matter that much.

The old bat died when she died, so it is what it is. As long as Trump and the republicans follow the law, then screaming, crying and threatening to up-end the country isn’t going to help.

I am not convinced the former has gone more than a month of his adult life without breaking the law.

I thought all about delaying, using the seat as an election ‘carrot’ and other potential scenarios, but all signs say that submit and appoint as soon as possible.
I don’t want that seat on the ballot, things are already crazy enough with the culture war.
Taking the seat out of the election picture, sociologically speaking, would probably demotivate democrats more than having it would motivate republicans, as the republicans are at peak motivation as it is. So using it as election bait doesn’t make any sense.
Then, the election itself is already been setup to be a complete cluster fuck, unless one of the candidates sweep. And in any other case than a sweep, we need a functioning court that won’t tie.
This unsanctioned mail-in balloting has already been a horrible nightmare. There has been so much corruption and mistakes that have messed up or delayed votes in primaries and local elections, that a 4-4 in the tie court would only cause more death in the streets.
The media and democrat politicians have already called for unrest and burning it all down. Don Lemon wants to ‘blow it all up’ and AOC is already calling on people to radicalize.
Make no mistake, there will be violence on election night and if the election is close, people will die from left-wing violence. We need a functioning court to keep the government functioning when there is massive unrest.

If going for power this is what I would do. I am not a gambler though.

I don’t have my pulse on the whole country or anything, but it is my perception that people on both sides are more excited than usual. I think we are going to have a record turnout this election (just my prediction which mean nothing).

I agree here, but it is going to be hard to convince people that the court isn’t partisan at this point. I think politics has been played too much in the effort to gain power, and the result is a court that shouldn’t be trusted to be non-partisan.

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Now to lower the conversational tone, the memes are already lit:

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The court is partisan, has been partisan always has been partisan. That’s why the FF’s put in the checks and balances in the Constitution, to keep one branch from getting too much power over the others.
Ultimately, the job of the SCOTUS is to interpret cases according to the Constitution and decide whether or not law is applied as intended by the Constitution or not. If they did that only, then nobody would have reason to freak out. But the institution is made up of people, people have opinions and ideologies and it’s therefore flawed.
Keep in mind, though, the initial vision for the government was to have no political parties. The problem is they emerged anyway, quickly and to illegalize them would have essentially meant one party rule, which is worse. So they let it emerge naturally.

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It was a pope.

So, when the Senate is controlled by a party different than the WH, it is the custom and practice to refuse to confirm the President’s pick? That’s how it’s been working, that is the precedent?

(We’ll set aside that wasn’t the reason given for refusing to confirm Garland, y’all keep ignoring that. But I’ll play along.)

This is one of many reasons that I don’t want to make it worse. However I disagree that we are at the point where the court can’t be trusted to be nonpartisan. They’re clearly nonpartisan even if they don’t agree on interpretation.

Many Republicans will abandon their senators and potentially the president if they dont fill the spot.

Anyway, looks like Trump has sured up the votes in the senate so it will go through.

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Romney coming out in the 11th hour to remind Barack and Joe that he remembers 2012.

‘Romney sits in his leather armchair holding a Waterford Crystal tumbler. It is filled with the finest milk money can buy. He stares out at the burning capital and a rictus grin spreads across his face.

‘Add one more woman to my binder, Joe, from Utah’s heart, I stabeth thee.’’

Edit:

Peace was never an option.

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Yep…this is a done deal…

Most likely Barrett will be the choice.

I don’t think Trump really “needs” to make a “Florida/Hispanic” play with Barbara Lagoa, because I don’t think Florida is that much out of Trump’s reach.

Thoughts?

Romney has more disdain for Trump than President Obama.

His desire is for a Conservative Majority on the Court.

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I think Florida is lean GOP, and has been for a couple of election cycles. That said, Trump losing it makes his map extremely tough.

He couldn’t go wrong with any amount of Florida fellating. It’s a must win state for him.

It was in jest, Romney drinks chocolate milk, after all.

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Understood!