Would you prefer we fight threats on our own soil, or on European soil? Europe provides a buffer zone of sorts. You want to get us, you have to go through Europe first. Also, our defense industry makes money off of our presence in Europe.
Greenland cannot make any defense pacts as Denmark is in charge of that. Someone making bold statements about these issues should know a fact like that.
What? A nation of fat fucks shouldnât accuse anyone of that.
That treasure goes to the defense industry and our blood greases those wheels.
By decadence I mean moral and social decay. They were too good to be ready to fight and protect themselves for too long.
We still have plenty of people of fighting age that are willing and able. I mean, we spent 20 years in the middle east without the necessity of a draft.
I donât disagree with that, in that it is a true statement.
I do disagree that it is that way, and that its business as usual.
Out of curiosity, has anyone else in this thread lived in Russia? For more than say . . . 6 months?
Not me.
What was your impression of it?
I donât see that. Again, look at our country.
Some of those nations had compulsory military service until fairly recently. We ended it long before. Something else to consider is that maybe we didnât want Europe to be more capable of defending itself in order to justify our presence there. It gave us more power and influence over their affairs than we may have had otherwise. Now, if we want to say we no longer need that same presence with the end of the USSR thatâs one thing, but to accuse Europe of being freeloaders during that period is disingenuous as it implies that the relationship wasnât reciprocal in nature.
Have we ever had compulsory millitary service? Or are drafts within that category?
It wasnât reciprocal. They were down for a smattering of troops here or there on UN peacekeeping but we did the heavy lifting.
Those soldiers overseas werenât paid? Their equipment wasnât built by Americans? How many of the 5,500 PXs are putting money into American companiesâ pockets? To think we, or at least some among us, didnât benefit from having bases, lots of bases, overseas is ignoring reality. Try closing a military base here or canceling a defense contract for something we probably donât even need.
Lifting what? We never went to war against the Soviets.
I was thinking reciprocal on their part to us. I think we think the same thing in regard to the value of a millitary base to the local economy on foreign soil.
I was thinking post soviet UN âpeacekeepingâ missions like in Bosnia/Herzegovina and some of those other lesser skirmishes.
Complicated. I suppose the best word I can come up with is forlorn. But lots of nice people as well. I went through Moscow a few times, but mostly was in Novosibirsk.
I was just wondering if the people advocating pro-russia stuff had actually been there.
Thereâs reasons I chose to live in America instead of there.
Well one of my sources on this particular topic is from Scott Ritter, former Marine intelligence officer who worked inside the Soviet Union and later became a U. N. weapon inspector who looked for the mythical WMDâs. So yeah, I will grace you with his perspective of what he and his sources are saying while you can defile us with yours. But right now, Iâm having issues with my laptop and am surprised itâs functioning the way it is at the moment.
You mean the ones that hit my friends Marine Battalion? Those imaginary ones? The ones that set off their chemical weapons alarms that required them to don their protective gear?
Those imaginary ones?
Or the ones stored in the deep bunkers that another buddy had the pleasure of clearing after they were hit by bunker busters? Or the ones that were unceremoniously dumped into giant burn piles, destroying all evidence of their existence.
Talk about bong hits of the propaganda pipe!
This is a lot like agent orange. If the government exposes itself to liability by acknowledging its existence it will be obligated to compensate for exposure.
So its best to wait until a majority of those who have a claim die, which is gonna be a while, because that was in the early 90âs, and most of those guys were late teen early 20âs.
But youâre a fumbfuck, so I donât expect you to know these things.
Now go scrape the spooge out of your laptop, dumbshit.
So these dudes are now in their 50âs, have the negative effects not appeared and if they have what is being done in regards to this? And what is being defined by WMDâs?
Scott Ritter the convicted pedophile? The guy who went to Chechnya to talk to their troops? The one who has his home raided by the FBI in August for being a Russian propagandist and helping Russian election interference? Seems like a legit source.
Bwahahaha! Russian election interference. This has been thoroughly debunked by Aaron Mate.
Skipped right over that pedophilia thing, huh? And visiting Chechnya? And
Aaron Mate is a joke, but he was addressing the 2016 election not this yearâs election.
For someone who bitches about the US interference in other countriesâ affairs, believing that Russia (or any other semi-powerful country) doesnât do the same is displaying peak stupidity.
They have appeared as a variety of neurological and immunological disorders.
What is being done? Nothing. Nothing is being done and Denial of wmdâs is at the core of why. The VA will treat the symptoms, or symptom clusters, but does not or will not acknowledge that they are analogous or in any way related to exposure to WMDâs.
And that piece of shit report and person youâre referring to is a key piece of why nothing is done.
Ritter sold out his brothers in arms and his country. And youâre quoting him like heâs a hero.
Are you surprised?
Noh. At least I shouldnât be.