Russian Military Buildup Outside Ukraine

If Japan wasn’t a tiny island nation with minimal natural resources, we’d all be speaking Japanese. So I disagree with this part of your analogy lol.

I am referring to the eastward expansion of NATO

Not directed at you specifically, but I hate the term NATO “expansion.”

It’s a defensive alliance, not an offensive one. All Russia has to do is not invade another country to make sure that it doesn’t get “attacked” by NATO. Russia has nukes. It’s not like NATO is going to invade Russia conventionally. Literally, all Russia needs to do is not attack its neighbors.

And it’s not like its neighbors didn’t beg to NATO. Knowing people in Czechia and Poland, a lot of them despise and mistrust the Russian govt due to their history. It’s not like NATO “expanded” and invaded them. They asked to join since they knew the only thing stopping Russia from invading them again was joining NATO.

It’d be like if Central America formed an alliance due to the constant “interventions” the U.S. did in the region. They would be right to make the alliance and “expand.”

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No, this hasn’t got anything to do with a TDS. Faced with failure at the battlefield, Russians have double-down on efforts ingratiate themselves (further) with various elements of both the left and right. In his last speech Putin pretty awkwardly squeezed soundbites to be used in American culture wars. It’s up to you guys (Americans) whether you’ll fall for such a transparent ploy.

“As it became known, the Anglican Church plans to consider the idea of a gender-neutral God … Millions of people in the West understand they are being led to a real spiritual catastrophe.

“Look at what they do to their own people: the destruction of families, of cultural and national identities and the perversion that is child abuse all the way up to paedophilia, are advertised as the norm … and priests are forced to bless same-sex marriages.”

Putin’s state of the nation speech: What exactly did he say? | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

BTW, Russia has double the divorce rate of the US. And let’s not get into abortions and child abuse. So much for “Judeo-Christian” values.

You can repeat this until you’re blue in the face, but the people who don’t want to understand this will simply refuse to.

Like, there is active avoidance of understanding what nato is and Why It Was Formed.

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Don’t stoop to being disingenuous, writing MAGAs in derogatory fashion 100% invokes “Trump bad” for average joes like me. Spell out what you’re trying to say, like you always do, and did in response to my barb.

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Let me ask you this: there were (false) attempts at peace talks at the beginning, why have there been zero efforts since?

Because in a related note, if America keeps writing checks it’s economy can’t (in reality) cash, this is what will ultimately lead to China’s economy overtaking the economy of the US. And that is China’s long game imo, and why they’re making noise (or actually doing?) about “helping” Russia in this there-will-be-no-winners-here war.

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One last thing -the average American thinks American politicians are liars and full of crap, zero chance they are influenced at all by anything Putin says. The average American only cares that endless amounts of money is being spent while economically, things are not…the greatest…here.

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Ok, will try to elaborate on the first attempt in the future.

Another more bizarre aspect of this Russian propaganda effort to both ends of the political horseshoe is the nazbol vortex in which South American loony commies waving North Korea flags, geriatric “anti-imperialists” and ME antisemites find themselves in a perfectly aligned bromance with American alt-right trads.

Fucking Nick Fuentes just came out in defense of Stalin, for fucks sake.

To my understanding, Ukraine is getting mothballed US weapons from storage whose book value is worth “X billion”. Other efforts include munitions purchase and production

Those “meetings” in Belarus weren’t real negotiations. Ukrainians were buying time and Putin sent four lowly stooges who didn’t have a mandate for negotiations except to demand unconditional surrender.

And since the Ukrainian people didn’t meet Russian tanks with flowers, bread and salt, Russians switched to the extermination plan for Ukrainians in March of '22. Ukraine mobilized for total war in turn, and now you have a war that will be decided on the battlefield or until Russia breaks apart, which isn’t that far fetched.

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Only on social media can a 24 year old have a “forum”, and a “following”. Even if they were actually sane, I would still think that.

Except for Greta Thunberg of course. Her, I listen to, because she’s been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, twice.

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There’s the name! I knew “little autistic climate girl” wasn’t right!

The opposite of nuclear war? Sorry, I guess.

There is none.

I am, but not many are ignorant enough to shrug off nuclear war.

It wasn’t an undertone. When someone says something like, “Maybe he will use them but that should not deter NATO and the world for that matter to unite against this behavior,” I will deem him crazy. There’s no debating with crazy people.

  • Are you deliberately being an idiot or are you just slow ? I don’t debate idiots. Theyll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience which you seem to have in abundance. If youre slow then say so. that way I can spell it out with capital letters and then maybe youll understand my point

As can be seen by both your complete inability to understand a simple theoretical and very clear point and the fact that you go on the offence with ad hominem attacks instead of coming out with any real meaningful points of your own, tells me everything I need to know about you.

Give a man a mask and he will show you who he really is!

Interesting take.

From the article:

As the title of the piece indicated, the West had effectively now taken over control of the war, and if the effort to defeat Russian President Vladimir Putin failed, American global influence might be undermined and the future of the NATO alliance called into question

The US is supposedly waging a war to the grand total of 5% of yearly defensive expenditure? What would happen if the US upped it to 6 or 7%?

Indeed, such notable foreign policy luminaries as John Mearsheimer, Jeffrey Sachs, Douglas Macgregor, and Lawrence Wilkerson have all recently raised the possibility that NATO risks disintegration, especially in the wake of Seymour Hersh’s bombshell disclosure that President Biden had illegally destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines, some of Europe’s most important civilian energy infrastructure.

All the people listed above have made repeated appearances on Russian State TV in the past few months (in general, trashing the US and the West and glorifying Russia), which means that they’re 100% vetted by the FSB and that their talking points are fully aligned with the Kremlin.
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MacGregor from a year ago:

Macgregor, who previously supported Russia’s annexation of Crimea, argued, “What is happening now is the battle in Eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off… and if they don’t surrender in next 24 hours, I suspect the Russians will ultimately annihilate them… The game is over.” Russian state media flooded their programs with translated clips of Macgregor’s proclamations, using them in support of their own messaging designed to demoralize the Ukrainians.

Seymour Hersh famously proclaimed recently that the “Russian Army hasn’t started fighting yet” (super weird that a supposed investigative journalist is so familiar with the Russian Army) which is the level of copium even the most delusion Russian ultranationalist Telegram channels have long since abandoned.

The supposed Ukrainian achievement was certainly a remarkable one. According to Wikipedia, the largest land offensive in human history was Germany’s 1941 Operation Barbarossa, which involved fewer than 7,000 armored vehicles. But if we credit Oryx, over the last twelve months Ukraine’s doughty patriots have totally annihilated a far greater Russian mechanized force, while their own losses have been just a fraction of that. Individuals should decide for themselves how plausible such total numbers sound.

There’s a very simple explanation that’s too horrible for Rockwell to contemplate, from the UK government:

In other words, the piece is a propaganda regurgitating already obsolete Russian talking points (doubting the Oryx database, perceived US involvement etc.)

Those fuckers don’t even lift.

I find flaw in your premise.

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Weapons win wars, not muscles. Also, a psychotic mentality…

I was being hyperbolic of course, because whichever country had the N-Bomb (what a racist would say!) would win the war.

What do you think is the reason that the Japanese were the country that was disarmed as a term of surrender? Racism!

Random point -if the U.S. really wants to give a fcuk you to, and actually scare China, the thing to do would be to re-arm Japan.

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Lies.

I have watched all the modern war movies and every Fast and Furious movie.

Muscles always win.

Plus, do you even know where you are? THIS IS T-NATION SON. Muscles reign supreme.

Ukraine is toast then. Putin submits tigers with his bare hands. I’ve seen pictures.

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When’s the last time Russia invaded a NATO country?

They didn’t, meaning the alliance works. It also proves that joining NATO is the best prevention against being attacked by Russia.

Russia hates NATO because every country that joins it is one less nation they can attack.

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