Russian Influence in the Trump Administration

This thread reminds me why I don’t like meeting people in real life.

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That Mick28 debacle was inadvertently brilliant.

I’d liken it to finding a new subatomic particle while cleaning the lint catch in your dryer.

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That is an outright lie. But I would expect as much from you.

This is what I said for all to see:

"LOL

Did you like the kind gentler me?"

How is that a denial? I admitted it immediately! That makes YOU the liar Activities Guy. Now you can apologize to me for lying.

I did not lie about it and apologized immediately… When I am wrong I admit it. When is the last time you admitted that you were wrong? I have no idea but the next time should be right now because you just lied about me.

Classic: “No, it is YOU who is the liar!”

How about this exchange, which occurred three full weeks before you actually outed yourself in the “Next President…” thread:

usmc suspected you were posting using dual accounts and posted as much. You didn’t directly address it, but carried on the charade by responding to both Aragorn and usmc using both your Mick account and your zeb account. Hell, you even talked to yourself again in that thread!

Sure. The paragon of honesty. Again, this was three full weeks before you fucked up for good by responding to “Mick” when you were still logged in as “Mick” and confirming what usmc had suspected back when.

Seriously, just get fucked already. After re-reading some of this shit, it’s amazing that Colucci let you keep posting here at all. You kept carrying on dueling conversations with @anon50325502 and @Aragorn using both of your accounts, and carried on a few side conversations between your two accounts to maintain the illusion, especially since usmc was on your scent. The fact that you can come out of this and say “No it is YOU who is the liar! I admitted it right away!” is astonishing.

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Your memory is poor or should we say selective.

treco caught it and I did admit it immediately. I denied nothing. I also apologized for it. You can continue to rant about it. But I was wrong admitted it and I actually stopped posting as I thought it best to leave. I then decided to start posting again. And up to this point in time have not had any problems with any posters. But of course when I am attacked repeatedly by someone who is welshing on a bet I don’t think it’s out of the order for me to respond.

You can continue to bring this up and take the thread off course and if you do you are in violation of T Nation rules. You will then owe not only me an apology for lying about my immediate response regarding the second screen name, but T Nation and others as well for continuing to take this thread off topic. If you scroll back the thread was back on course before you popped in.

Anyway good for you. You took a jab at me and helped defend your friend. Is your mission accomplished?

As for me this is my final post on this thread.

Actually, it appears that my memory is quite good, because I recalled the incident that preceded the time treco caught you red-handed and settled this for good.

So when usmc “caught it” three weeks before that when he accused Mick and zeb of being the same person, where was your “admission” then? I suppose we must have different definitions of “immediately” admitting something.

Right-o. The guy who ran dueling accounts for over nine years is taking the moral high ground on who’s violating T-Nation rules.

Oh, I’m sorry, are your feelings hurt? I didn’t take you for the sensitive kind.

Article extremely related

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Interestingly. Dilbert creator and outspoken Trump fan Scott Adams was caught several years ago in an eerily similar situation - praising himself under a different username (calling oneself a “certified genius”) on various forums and message boards, including reddit.

When caught, he boldly claimed it was a “prank” and a “funny social experiment” that lesser minds could not comprehend. He also once photoshopped the face of Obama onto a body of a chimp…So does that mean that @zeb1 is Scott Adams?

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/new-york-magazine-profile-john-mccain

It seems the Russian are somewhat rattled by Flynn’s resignation (dismissal?) and Pence’s statements reassuring NATO allies in Munich and therefore have started hedging their bets - after months of non-stop praises for Trump from the Russian media, Komsomolskaya Pravda called Trump today “the first Jew in the White House”

They still nominally praise his alleged business acumen and as “a multi talented billionaire” but the worst insult possible in the Russian public discourse is casually thrown out there . So if things don’t go Russia’s way, expect the antisemitic dial turned to 11 and more of “Jew Trump” this, “Jew Trump” that.

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That wouldn’t be as good as when he said Trump should use the Nazi’s blueprints of rounding people up during a conversation with me.

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This article provides fantastic background on the actual attaining and analysis of the Flynn data. Well worth the read.

@loppar, I’d be interested to hear your take on this:

Either Spain or the US should lock Firtash up and throw away the key. Firtash represents the worst type of post-Soviet oligarch, so prevalent in today’s Russia and it’s sphere of influence.

Many people in the West don’t know this, but Putin, the archetypal Russian strongman, actually relies on basically personal feudal relationships to rule less interesting (meaning less profitable) territories on the periphery of the Russian Federation as well as assorted “satellite” states and breakaway regions. The most flamboyant of these “retainers” is Ramzan Kadyrov who has got a free hand in Chechnya, but there are others, more subdued and less known in other federate republics such as Tatarstan, Bashkorkostan… Usually it’s an oligarch-cum-politician (or vice versa) who’s the head of a specific republic or a province and is personally loyal to Putin. Even the discrete UK based billionaire Roman Abramovich is the governor of the Russia’s Far East Vladivostok province…

Firtash was one of those guys in Russia’s near abroad (Ukraine), making obscene amounts from fraudulent contracts with Ukrainian state owned enterprises, primarily the national utility company. This was all done on Kremlin’s behest. Interestingly, after declaring all contracts with Firtash’s companies null and void all state companies became profitable after being in red for years.

After the Ukrainians rose up against precisely such Russian sponsored types, he saw the writing on the wall and decided he needs to bribe/blackmail up and coming pro-Western politicians to ensure his economic (and physical) survival. That’s why he’s (was?) in exile in Vienna, waiting to see how the situation unfolds - Vienna is the preferred fallback option for every self respecting Russian/Ukrainian politician.

Now here comes the interesting part - Western diplomats rarely mingled with these guys. Usually, when the US needed to send a strong message or a stern warning about the stability of a specific country or US interests to one of these guys (“Cut it out or else…”) the US ambassador in the field would engage trusted local intermediaries to convey the message in order to maintain “plausible deniability”.

So what’s amazing is that guys like Artemenko, “the peace maker” (he’s shady as fuck, even by post-Soviet standards) now have a direct channel of communication to the highest levels of US government. Usually, a Western diplomat would take great pains no to been with such individuals let alone hear their ideas and proposals out.

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Thanks; interesting read. It looks like Collins just tipped the scales on the Intelligence Committee. I imagine that was quite a meeting they had with Comey last week.

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Well, well, well…

I thought we would AT LEAST get: 7 investigations; 13 hearings; 50 briefings; 30,000 pages of documents; and at least 8 millions dollars (and counting) spent on this Russian thing.

Where is Mr. Chaffetz when we need him?

I feel cheated!

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