[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think your conspiracy theory point of view on this is no more out of line than what you criticize many others for when it comes to this country as a whole. I think you can chalk up the types of movies made to what the general public is willing to PAY FOR way more than some attempt by liberals to control all media.[/quote]
First, I never said it was a conspiracy, and it isn’t one. It is all about editorial choices by people who want their art to say something.
Nor does it have anything to do with trying to control the media, but why am I not surprised you are beginning down an irrelevant path?
You said Hollywood makes its political movies based on the bottom line of dollar bills. I suggested that that was completely false, and we know that from well-known information on recent Hollywood antiwar films. So, that deals with your particular bad argument in that vein. It is clear the public is not interested in paying for antiwar films, but Hollywood kept cranking them out - why? The producers and directors want to create art that drives home their pet politics.
It’s no secret. It’s easy. Your point was refuted outright by easily available information by anyone who wanted to seek it out, and predictably, your ego won’t allow you to admit that you were wrong on the matter. Second verse, same as the first.
[quote]I agree with the other poster when it comes to “where the hell are the movies about Asians being thrown into camps here in America”, but I can also see the other side that so many are against any notion that America is faulted from a historical standpoint. This is why there has been almost no media story telling of issues like the Tuskegee experiments in movies either. Do you blame that on liberals as well?
We hear from many extreme conservatives any time a movie is even made where an American soldier is represented as the villain, yet you turn around and blame liberals when a movie isn’t made about Asians thrown into camps here in America. [/quote]
What the hell are you talking about? I haven’t said anything about a movie with Asian internment as its subject - but accuracy isn’t your strong suit.
Nor have I even “blamed liberals” for making movies with soldiers as bad guys - I did, however, lament that war/political movies are amazingly one-sided, and I think that has to do with Hollywood’s collective ideology.
Goodness - still don’t know what a strawman is? After all this time? Try addressing the argument I made, not the one you made up for me.
Whether or not Hollywood has made movies about other subjects - the Tuskegee experiments, for example - doesn’t speak to my point. There are plenty of war/political movies actually made, and they are almost always of the same political slant, even when it winds up losing money for the production companies. Why is that? You don’t offer an answer - just your usual, half-informed noise.
Wrong, of course, largely because movies aren’t the “liberal media” - they aren’t journalists, genius.
Art, which movies are a part of, is always going to have a particular point of view, no one is disputing that basic idea - the claim of “liberal media” is that an objective institution is taking a subjective point of view when it isn’t supposed to (and it is unethical to).
Good lord.
And by the way, if you think Hollywood is actively trying to keep a story about the Tuskegee experiments down for political reasons, make your case. I am all ears.
I have no such thing as “omniconscience”, but I do have this weird limitation on myself that I try to opine only on things I have a decent amount of knowledge about. You, on the other hand, bloviate at will when it is clear you barely have considered the information at all - your claim that movies are driven solely by their box office take and that there is no political angle at work, as an example.
I have no idea if there are bunch of anti-Communist movies that no one will green light because of a vast conspiracy, but that wasn’t my point - Hollywood sticks to a particular, nearly uniform political narrative in almost all of its political productions. The movies generally are sympathetic to left-wing politics, even left-wing radicalism (see the “The Motorcycle Diaries”), and it is not much a leap to consider that that broad sympathy doesn’t generate much interest in producing a movie about how tragic and awful left-wing politics can be for civilization.
An easy thesis. Not complicated, even for someone without “omniconscience”. Heh.