And Trump may go down for trying to keep him (Flynn) from going down.
Of course you are referring to obstruction.
But, what do we know so far about that?
^ Called usmc “BUTT BOY” >25 times in a span of a few hundred posts in a single thread
^ Had dueling accounts for nine years
^ Still thinks he can cite “T Nation rules”
Flynn attended the RT dinner in 2015. Flynn was in contact with the Russians during the transition. He has been ‘in the picture’ for quite some time now.
You mean, other than Trump intervening with the Director of the FBI, the DNI and the NSA?
Eh, I don’t know, man. That sounds kinda crazy, you know?
I agree with you. But how can you, also being wrong, claim the high ground?
“Intervening” does not necessarily equate to “obstructing”. As you know all that matters is what he said and how it was said. And then of course the burden of proof is on the accuser. Is it a high crime?
It takes a great deal to impeach a President. As you recall there have only been two impeachments, Bill Clinton and Andrew Johnson and one who resigned who would have most certainly been impeached, Richard Nixon.
So far 3 out of 44.
I don’t see it happening.
Edit: Not counting Trump as he is the 45th
From what has been released thus far, it sounds as if a case for obstruction could be made. Not a slam dunk, of course.
Not really–at least, not since the GOP did it to Clinton. Clinton was impeached for lying during a civil deposition about a consensual sexual affair with an adult female. Not exactly a high crime in my book. And if Trump’s words and actions turn out to meet the standard for obstruction of justice, that would be a crime many orders of magnitude more serious than what Clinton did.
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Far from a slam dunk. More like a long-shot.
I heartily disagree. Bill Clinton lied under oath which is a felony and he was also impeached for obstruction of justice.
Those are considered “high crimes” no?
Given where we are in the ongoing investigation, not a point worth arguing.
Indeed. Like I said, he lied under oath during a civil deposition about a consensual sexual affair with an adult female. If that strikes you as the sort of thing a POTUS should be impeached for, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
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Agreed
Well, two things: Firstly, it was not what he was lying about. I don’t think that was the issue. The issue was swearing under oath and then lying. That has always been called perjury which is a felony. Interestingly enough it is also a felony to lie to an FBI agent. Now if one is arrested for such a thing I am sure that there is a good defense that can be launched but nonetheless…And also Bill Clinton obstructed justice, that too is a felony as you know since the left is trying to build an obstruction case against Trump as we speak. But not an easy thing to prove.
That was a bigly misread on Trumps part. There’s a lot of stuff in business and penny ante politics that can get shmoozed over with casual “but he’s a good guy” conversations, but not at this level.
Its not the misdeed that gets ya. Its the cover up.
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You are spot on with that one!
But, on the other hand saying “he’s a good guy” or, “I hope the whole thing blows over” is not obstructing justice.
They do? Damn.
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I think a special prosecutor is the best case scenario for Trump. It stops the left from continuing to call for one, which grabs headlines. And it also puts it in the hands of an impartial individual who will be able to weed out the political game playing from what has really occurred.
I don’t think it’s unfair to say you follow popular opinion of the group on this site.
I was quite surprised you Stated gun laws as effective recently as that goes against your group
There’s been a considerable decline in the number of Americans who strongly approve of Trump, from a peak of around 30 percent in February to just 21 or 22 percent of the electorate now. (The decline in Trump’s strong approval ratings is larger than the overall decline in his approval ratings, in fact.) Far from having unconditional love from his base, Trump has already lost almost a third of his strong support. And voters who strongly disapprove of Trump outnumber those who strongly approve of him by about a 2-to-1 ratio, which could presage an “enthusiasm gap” that works against Trump at the midterms. The data suggests, in particular, that the GOP’s initial attempt (and failure) in March to pass its unpopular health care bill may have cost Trump with his core supporters.
Edit: meant to post this in the First Year thread.
I hope so.
Support is contingent on building a wall
Probably not, but its more than enough to create a tempest in a teapot.
I’ve gotten out of a couple of tickets and whatnot on the “he’s a good guy” clause, but thats penny ante. If he didn’t have the utmost confidence in these guys and lots of history to support it, it was a foolish move on his part.
Given that they obviously did not have his back to the extent required to play such a card- it looks like he was throwing his weight around in a way that people don’t appreciate. Now he’s getting hip tossed by people who have been in a fair share of judo matches.
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