Not to be smeared in the press but for prosecution purposes it sure does.
So we hear. We don’t even know if there is a memo as this is yet another unnamed source. However, we do know that IF there is a memo it is three months old. Why come forward now with this memo AFTER you’re fired? How important could it have been not to step forward three months ago?
I posted the definition of Obstruction of Justice. If you don’t like the definition take it up with the those who wrote it. No fibbing on my part.
Yes, I think we should hang everyone on such evidence. He hosted a show on Russian TV yet denies any Russian involvement in Wikileaks.
I guess that’s all you need to convict the guy.
Good for you! As for me I’d like some corroboration. Isn’t that how we run our criminal justice system? Oh yeah when it’s about Trump no need for P R O O F.
No, it doesn’t. It needs to be authenticated, but it doesn’t need a second witness there to say “yeah, I heard it that way.” It stands alone as evidence that the statement was made. You have no idea what you’re talking about.[quote=“zeb1, post:826, topic:226860”]
Why come forward now with this memo AFTER you’re fired? How important could it have been not to step forward three months ago?
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A bunch of reasons, not the least of which is a concern that coming forward could impede the investigation itself.
You tried to pass off something that wasn’t correct. Maybe you weren’t actually fibbing - I’m game to change my criticism to “so uninformed he didn’t even know what he posted was incorrect.”
I never said that it didn’t “stand alone as evidence”. Why are you using the straw man argument?
What I said was it is not enough to for impeachment and I think agreed earlier but it could be one of the posters that I am mixing you up with. It’s tough to differentiate all the Trump haters without a program.
Anyway, a note written three months after the fact is not going to lead to any sort of prosecution in this case and I think we both know that. Now if a Comey aid were there, or a near by waiter heard Trump try to intimidate Comey…now you’ve got a great case. But at this point we don’t even know if a note exists or what it says.
I think that’s a good point and one that Comey will have to use if there is a note and if he wants to purse it. And if the note is damaging…plenty of "ifs’
How about this statement from his former collaborator I’ve linked to before and you conveniently ignored? Not to mention that you, an alleged patriot, blindly believe everything Julian Assange says, a person who openly and repeatedly expresses his hatred for the United States…Not to mention his recent trashing of US intelligence agencies on Russian TV…
I generally support the work that WikiLeaks is doing, but I’m not that thrilled about his decisions that are unethical, in my view, concerning his connections to the Russian government.”
Tolokno said she visited Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London two years ago, saying their meeting convinced her WikiLeaks has ties to the Kremlin.
“He couldn’t deny it,” said Tolokno, whose full name is Nadezhda Tolokonnikova. "He often works with the Russian propaganda machine, and he doesn’t try to hide it.
“Julian Assange doesn’t try to hide that fact because he hosts at the Ecuadorian Embassy the editor-in-chief of the Russian propaganda team, Russia Today, and he has projects with them,” she added.
Tolokno added she confronted Assange about advancing Russian interests ahead of America’s.
“I understood his position: He’s in a state of war with the American government,” she said. "He’s smart and charismatic and will use any means to destroy the American government.
“And we had a conversation if it was really the ethical thing to do that with the hands of another government [Russia] which is, in fact, much worse and a real authoritarian government.”
I was out all day and I came back to the exact same posts that I left. Once again Ground Hog Day at PWI. Okay going out to dinner with the family. You guys enjoy yourselves and don’t forget to post things like sources…real people with real names. And also P R O O F of any claims that you are making.
Other than that have fun and see you all tomorrow!
Edit: H Factor leaned left, as I recall, on most every issue. That he is not fond of me is no shock I ate his lunch more than once.
Yes, you did, because you insisted it must be corroborated - that’s what that word means in this context, that it’s no good unless someone else can attest that the conversation happened like that.[quote=“zeb1, post:829, topic:226860”]
What I said was it is not enough to for impeachment and I think agreed earlier but it could be one of the posters that I am mixing you up with. It’s tough to differentiate all the Trump haters without a program.
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It actually could be enough for impeachment, which has a more relaxed standard of proof than would a criminal case for obstruction. Doesn’t mean it will happen, but when you add the totality of the context - request that Comey stick around after a meeting, Pence and Sessions asked to leave, the request let the Flynn investigation go, the fact that the Flynn investigation proceeds, Trump’s firing of Comey and a public statement that the firing was in connection with the Russian stuff - the impeachment case has legit momentum.
That doesn’t mean that it can’t “stand alone as evidence” It is in fact evidence. What I said was they’d need more for a prosecution. You just being you now.
Bet?
I’m out for now…but do let me know if you want to bet on it…
That’s when McCarthy brought the conversation about Russian meddling around to the DNC hack, Trump and Rohrabacher.
“I’ll guarantee you that’s what it is…The Russians hacked the DNC and got the opp [opposition] research that they had on Trump,” McCarthy said with a laugh.
Ryan asked who the Russians “delivered” the opposition research to.
“There’s… there’s two people, I think, Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said, drawing some laughter. “Swear to God,” McCarthy added.
“This is an off the record,” Ryan said.
Some lawmakers laughed at that.
“No leaks, alright?,” Ryan said, adding: “This is how we know we’re a real family here.”
“That’s how you know that we’re tight,” Scalise said.
“What’s said in the family stays in the family,” Ryan added.
I must be remembering much of those conversations wrong. I suppose I could easily look them up and count the people who agreed with my logic versus yours. Of course logic never really mattered to you because you win every argument no matter how it goes. Almost like Trump in a way. If you decide you can’t be wrong no matter what it’s always a win.
Of course Mick ALWAYS agreed with your points no matter how much logic I could use. I wouldn’t be surprised if you guys ate lunch together.
Best of luck as you continue to deflect and defend Trump no matter what. You’d be spewing with rage if this was Obama or Hilary but the guy has an R and not a D. Principles sort of get in the way when you worship a party, good thing you got rid of those.