This is key. Same for me.
Yet for some reason one is a non story and the other is deeply disturbing…
Trump and co are fully able (and should be willing) to investigate and find out if the Seth Rich aspect leads anywhere. Since Trump wants to track down leaks, he should be 100% on board right?
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I’m sure, Mufasa. Any effective demands for him to step down will have to have support from the Republican establishment. It looks like naked partisanship otherwise. In my opinion, Dems have already shown inconsistency in their ability to excuse her, but condemn him. If the Reps condemn carelessness and negligence in Hill, and also condemn it in Trump, they have the opportunity to be better. Unfortunately, I don’t think they’ll take it. We’ll see how this falls out over the next week.
I keep wondering what it will take to build the momentum required. I see this national security breech as a huge deal.
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Me too… Its Russia not Canada
Heres the deal we can all be pussies but the truth is this…
Many Rebs dont give a shit if Russia helped or if Trump is in cahoots with Russia cuz hes their guy… Thats no bueno
I also suspect if Hillary was in cahoots with Russia and somehow it helped many Dems would also be claiming nothing to see here…also no bueno
but something did happen not sure it helped or not but it did happen…It should be investigated… Also Rightwingers should admit what we allready know which is even if he admitted to it and it happened they still wouldnt care…But pretending nothing happened is just soft.
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If you’re wondering what the WSJ had to say. From the front page this morning. Paywalled, please pardon the huge wall of text.
Trump Shared Intelligence Secrets With Russians , WSJ
Updated May 16, 2017 5:22 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON—President Donald Trump shared sensitive intelligence obtained from a close U.S. ally with Russia’s foreign minister and ambassador in a meeting last week, according to U.S. officials, potentially jeopardizing critical intelligence-sharing agreements in the fight against Islamic State.
Mr. Trump met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak in the Oval Office the day after firing Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey.
During the meeting with the Russian officials, Mr. Trump mentioned details about Islamic State in a way that revealed enough information for the Russians to potentially compromise the source, according to the officials, who said the intelligence came from the U.S. ally.
According to one U.S. official, the information shared was highly sensitive and difficult to acquire and was considered extraordinarily valuable. The Wall Street Journal agreed not to identify the ally because another U.S. official said it could jeopardize the source.
The Washington Post reported Mr. Trump’s disclosure and said White House officials called the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency to warn of Mr. Trump’s disclosure and its possible consequences.
The White House denied on Monday that Mr. Trump disclosed any sources and methods of U.S. intelligence services or those of U.S. allies.
“I was in the room. It didn’t happen,” National Security Adviser Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster said in a statement outside the White House.
Gen. McMaster said in his statement that Mr. Trump didn’t divulge intelligence sources, methods or military operations, but he stopped short of denying that the president had shared any intelligence or other secrets with the Russians.
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova called the reports “another fake,” without addressing their substance.
“Guys, have you been reading too many American newspapers again? Don’t read them. You can use them in various ways, but don’t read them—recently it is not only harmful, but also dangerous,” she wrote in a message on her Facebook page Tuesday.
It was the latest in a string of controversies, all stemming from investigations into Mr. Trump’s associates and presidential campaign over ties to Russia. Mr. Trump last week fired Mr. Comey, who was heading up the investigation into the ties between Trump associates and Russia and testified about the probe.
The president’s meeting with Messrs. Lavrov and Kislyak came the day after Mr. Comey’s firing. The White House didn’t provide a photograph or detailed readout about the meeting, although a photographer from the Russian news agency, TASS, was in the room and released photographs.
The latest controversy left lawmakers puzzled and pessimistic about Mr. Trump’s administration.
“The White House has got to do something soon to bring itself under control and in order. It’s got to happen,” Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said, referring to the string of recent events at the White House. “Obviously they’re in a downward spiral right now and they’ve got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that’s happening.”
The latest disclosures stunned Washington’s national-security veterans on both sides of the political divide. Although presidents have the legal right to declassify intelligence as they see fit, doing so can put intelligence sources abroad in danger and make them less willing to work with the U.S., several defense officials said.
“These reports, if true, are of the gravest possible concern,” said Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat and a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee. “It could harm our national security by cutting off important sources of intelligence that protect Americans against terrorist acts.”
“If it’s true, it’d be troubling,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.).
“Giving the Russians intelligence that our counterterrorism partners have asked us to protect is incredibly dangerous,” said Jeremy Bash, the former Pentagon chief of staff under President Obama. “It will ensure that those partners don’t share with us the information we need to protect ourselves.”
“It’s so mind-boggling, I don’t even know what to say,” said Eric Edelman, a former undersecretary of defense during the George W. Bush administration. “I’m completely gobsmacked. It’s jeopardizing a human source. It’s the one thing you’re trained to never do.”
On Capitol Hill, the report of Mr. Trump’s possible disclosure of classified information to the Russia’s top diplomat and its U.S. envoy prompted a chorus of concern from Democrats and Republicans.
A spokesman for House Speaker Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) released a statement calling for a “full explanation of the facts from the administration.”
“We have no way to know what was said, but protecting our nation’s secrets is paramount,” said Mr. Ryan’s spokesman, Doug Andres.
Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D., Va.) said on Twitter: “If true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community. Risking sources & methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians.”
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he hadn’t confirmed the veracity of the Post’s report, but told CNN: “You never disclose sources of evidence.”
He continued, “It would be almost inconceivable that any president would allow something of that nature out.”
After the initial revelations, reporters flooded the hallway outside press secretary Sean Spicer’s West Wing office. At one point, Gen. McMaster walked into the scrum and quickly turned back and walked out, joking that the hallway full of reporters was “the last place” he wanted to be.
Ninety minutes after the Post story was published, Dina Powell, deputy national security adviser for strategy—and who also sat in on the meeting with the Russian officials—denied the story on the record. She called the Post’s story “false” and said: “The president only discussed the common threats that both countries faced.”
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson also issued a denial of the Post article.
A spokesman for the Post couldn’t be immediately reached for comment, but one of the Post reporters said in a television interview that the newspaper stood by the article.
Your arrogance is only exceeded by your lack of information regarding Presidential history. If you had a modicum of such information at hand you would never have said that “Trump is the most incompetent man ever elected to the office.”
Yeah, they have always had a plan. So what? That “plan” has nothing to do with President Trump. The only “plan” that the left is concerned about is how they can disrupt the Trump administration, slow down his agenda and make him look bad. That’s how the game is played.
And…at this point I think they have way off the deep end and will suffer a backlash.
Just because the Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos the founder of Amazon and just because Trump said that Amazon has been under taxed and he feels that they are a monopoly (true or not), and just because John Podesta has joined the Post as a contributing editor…none of that means a thing. Nothing to see here folks. Just keep reading the headlines and the stories that are based on unnamed sources.
Some of you guys really need to do your homework before you open and swallow.
Oh yes I bet. Where was your outrage over the gun running out of the attorney generals office during the Obama administration? Where was your outrage over his use of the NSA to spy on US citizens? Where was your outrage over Obama’s IRS harassing conservative groups? Where was your outrage over a host of other things that the Obama administration was guilty of? You were as silent (most times) as the left wing news media.
HA!
Anyway, I knew I could walk away come back 3 hours later and miss nothing. Same people saying the same things.
See you guys later…
If that plan had nothing to do with Trump, I doubt that plan would have involved helping Trump and others like him get elected across the globe.
Again, not saying any of this is Trump’s fault. Merely that we should all be worried about it. Failing countries don’t spend billions of dollars breaking treaties/rules across the globe unless there’s a good reason.
You are echoing the lefts narrative. Now tell me how exactly how did Russia help Trump get elected. Be specific and give me facts…not talking points.
Russia was responsible for hacking the DNC and releasing the information they found in an effort to hurt Hillary and help Trump. Again, I’m in no way saying Trump was colluding with Russia. Merely that they wanted him as POTUS over HRC.
This is echo’d by our IC in this country as well as abroad, and as you said before, we know nothing about what we know nothing about. In this instance, I choose to trust the men and women that comprise the global IC, whom are all saying that Russia was behind the DNC hack.
First of all no one knows for sure that Russia hacked the DNC (but they sure might have). Secondly, it wasn’t Russia that did the most damage to Hillary’s campaign…Think about it, who is behind Wikileaks? It’s not Russia.
Thirdly, for the left to take this and run with it claiming that Trump was colluding with Russia is purely and simply a political game. Those who don’t see it are either left wingers who want to believe the worst, those too young to understand how politics works in the US, or those who are too stupid come in out of the rain.
Again I ask you what proof is there that Trump has been colluding with Russia?
Okay now I’m going back to work and will pop in later having missed nothing. As I said a while ago PWI has become like the movie Ground Hog Day without the humor.
Julian Assange has a show on a Russian government-funded television network.
The global IC community seems pretty sure of it. Personally I’d believe them over Putin.
The entity responsible for an illegal hack is not responsible for what they do with said info. Gotcha. [quote=“zeb1, post:697, topic:226860”]
Again I ask you what proof is there that Trump has been colluding with Russia?
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Again, I’ve never said Trump colluded with Russia. Not sure why I need to provide proof of something that I’ve openly said I don’t believe. What I said was [quote=“pfury, post:677, topic:226860”]
Russia clearly has a plan, I just wish more republicans wanted to find out what that was. Ultimately, I wish Trump wanted to find out what that was.
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