Russia Won't Go Away

I watch a fair amount of CNN, and I’ve never heard them ‘push the idea that Trump illegitimately became president.’

Words?

Yo @therajraj: how confident are you that this whole Russia thing is a nothingburger, that nothing will become of it?

For reals? Trump pushed a massive lie about President Obama being an illiegitmate Presisdent through this birth which ended up being believed by a large amount of Americans without any proof.

If anything this has a TON more evidence than that ever had thought I by no means think he is illegitimate or that he personally did anything although associates may have had some role with Russia (not necessarily hacking).

Know how you hate secret sources? Like the one Trump supposedly had for the fraud birth certificate.

Sometimes Raj I’m just convinced you’re a massive troll. Where was the outrage when the very President we have right now lied about the last Presidents legitimacy? Good lord correcting you wears me out, at least try to be consistent once in a while to give me a break.

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What do you think this Russia stuff is doing

That Trump will go down? Highly confident nothing will happen to Trump

Check out this “intelligence firm”

Plenty of proof. See Jerome Corsi’s book and Sheriff Arpaio’s exhaustive investigation.

This whole interaction is amazing

I’m with ED on this…and quite frankly this is getting exhausting.

  1. The FACT that the Russians/Wikileaks selectively hacked into one side of a two-sided Political Race is not in dispute.

Did it AFFECT the election? Yes.
Did it affect the election enough that it changed the outcome? NO…again NO!

  1. The FACT that the Russians attempted (unsuccessfully) to hack into various State Election systems is not in dispute; neither is the fact that they are still attempting to find out ways to do so is not in dispute.

In terms of whether Trump or some of his cronies corroborated with the Russians is currently under investigation.

I have said it before and will say it again; I think that people like Flynn and Manafort did not devise some grand, coordinated scheme with the Russians to affect the outcome of the election; but that they knew of the Russians intentions and turned a blind eye. (While making a buck or two on the side).

Will Trump “go down” because of this? NO

Trump Demagogued and Bulled his way thorough the Primaries and LEGITIMATELY beat one of the two most unpopular candidates in the history of Presidential Elections.

While I am sure that there is some loon (or loons) somewhere pushing the “legitimacy” of his win…that is NOT the general and overall consensus.

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This is beyond arguable. The level of discouragement in Bernie Dems that didn’t show up to vote simply because they were pissed at the DNC is breathtaking. Especially people my age.

Not to say Trump was in on it (he’d have certainly tweeted about it by now), but the DNC hack had a very clear and very large impact on the voter turnout numbers.

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Good point, pfury…and it did indeed.

Bernie Followers simply didn’t “hate” Trump enough to come out and Vote for Hillary…especially after what many considered a betrayal.

While I doubt that ANY National Committee is completely “neutral” in whom the want to be the Party Standard Bearer (there is no way in hell the GOP wanted it to be Trump); the Bernie Followers seemed to have felt especially betrayed.

Covering newsworthy events/developments?

You must be a boomer

Just barely, but yes.

Exactly. In what world is the POTUS’s campaign and former/current advisers being investigated not newsworthy, yet Seth Rich and the nothingburger of Obama’s birth certificate significant are. oh right, you’re talking to raj. Par for the course.

Did you by any chance see the leaked video by Project Veritas?

They admitted the Russia stuff is not about news but ratings, and the narrative they push is dictated by the CEO.

With respect to Trump bluffing Comey

So why did he keep the bluff up after Comey’s testimony?

A news program concerned about ratings?? Oh shit, what are we going to do?!?!?!?

The Russia stuff is news. There is an investigation. The IC agrees. They’re not going to stop reporting on Trump’s stupid tweets, the Comey testimony, and other Russia related stories because it conflicts with your narrative.

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How would we ever know this without Project Veritas to bring the truth?