Yeah well, I’d like to see how far this Jeffersonian Democrat pretending to be a Republican would go to cripple the fed if he were POTUS.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]garcia1970 wrote:
Yeah! Another ultra-religious, right-wing wacko from TX! How’d that work out last time?
Add that to two Mormons, one ex-Obama aide and an anti-government candidate who was in Congress for 35 years, and you have a slam dunk!
Wake up rich white guys!! Your taxes are going back to 39%!!
Abortions for all! Universal health care! Means testing for SS and Medicare! Educated citizens who will compete with your children for the 3 good jobs that are left! Tax penalties for offshoring jobs!
Roads and bridges fixed! Regulation on Natural Gas companies!
Oh this is pissing you off? THAT is what is sad.
Now off to your Masonic lodges, all of you![/quote]
Time to get rehab, buddy.[/quote]
Whahahaha…perfect!
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
what advantages and disadvantages are there regarding Rick Perry POTUS.[/quote]
Advantages: Fifth generation West Texan, Christian, track record of fiscal conservativism, pro-death penalty(but commuted a convicted murderer’s death sentence)
Disadvantages: Former Democrat, flip flopped on gay marriage recently, wrote a nutty liberatarian book(Fed Up!), signed HRC 50 and talks about seceding from the Union, HPC vaccine executive order, Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra corruption
That’s all I can come up with. Maybe someone else could add something. To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.[/quote]
Forgot one disadvantage, he is part of the bilderberg group. So he is more like pappa bush.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
what advantages and disadvantages are there regarding Rick Perry POTUS.[/quote]
Advantages: Fifth generation West Texan, Christian, track record of fiscal conservativism, pro-death penalty(but commuted a convicted murderer’s death sentence)
Disadvantages: Former Democrat, flip flopped on gay marriage recently, wrote a nutty liberatarian book(Fed Up!), signed HRC 50 and talks about seceding from the Union, HPC vaccine executive order, Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra corruption
That’s all I can come up with. Maybe someone else could add something. To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.[/quote]
Forgot one disadvantage, he is part of the bilderberg group. So he is more like pappa bush.
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But certainly there is absolutely no disagreement that he’d be better than Obamawitz by leaps and bounds.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
what advantages and disadvantages are there regarding Rick Perry POTUS.[/quote]
Advantages: Fifth generation West Texan, Christian, track record of fiscal conservativism, pro-death penalty(but commuted a convicted murderer’s death sentence)
Disadvantages: Former Democrat, flip flopped on gay marriage recently, wrote a nutty liberatarian book(Fed Up!), signed HRC 50 and talks about seceding from the Union, HPC vaccine executive order, Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra corruption
That’s all I can come up with. Maybe someone else could add something. To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.[/quote]
Forgot one disadvantage, he is part of the bilderberg group. So he is more like pappa bush.
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Oh…this guy again.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
…To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.
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Shucks, that might be his one of his primary redeeming qualities as far as I’m concerned.
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too bad he’s not a libertarian.
Get on your knees for Jesus!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I consider myself one of the ‘religious right.’ Alienate us to pick up some independents and you’ll lose. And you’ll lose big. I’d sooner throw away my vote on some 3rd party candidate than some pro civil union, pro-choice, with an aversion to “god bless america,” libertarian. Or, some GoP progressive-lite. I’d sooner let the democrats run the nation than reward the GoP. [/quote]
I’m from the same place and I second that motion! And that’s one reason that Huntsman is a loser going in. [/quote]
So you would throw away your vote, allowing Obama to win, rather that voting for somebody who may not be ideal, but at least holds views closer to yours than obama, over spite? That just doesn’t make sense…You are still responsible for your vote. If you deliberately throw your vote, you deserve what you get which is 4 more years of obama, which is 4 more years of entitlements, horrible economy and liberal agendas. No thanks. [/quote]
Well, I’ll tell you something my friend, I held my nose and voted for McCain. I didn’t like how it felt but he was certainly the better of the two candidates. In experience alone he had it over Obama like a tent. But going forward I’m not going to vote for a character like Huntsman who is basically “Obama lite.” The republican party either stands for family values, shrinking big government and lower taxes, or it doesn’t. I will not pick between two people who hold views that align with the democratic party and say this one is better than that one.
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It’s fine with me to take a principled stand based on what you believe. That’s fine if you want to vote that way. It’s your vote and you use it as you see fit.
As for me, I will vote for the guy who has the most in common with me politically speaking. Where I differ from you, is the whole family values thing. I prefer the candidate be a principled person with good family, but I don’t want ‘family values’ legislated, at all, ever. I demand to have the freedom to be an unprincipled piece of shit if I want to. such is liberty. Don’t read into this to much, it does not mean I think people should not be held to account. Vaules are a societal problem, not a political one. The political arena isn’t to address every little problem we have, socially. This needs to be separate. I want freedom to be the best I can be with out he Goverment chiming in…It’s none of their business. They need to build roads, and make bombs.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yeah well, I’d like to see how far this Jeffersonian Democrat pretending to be a Republican would go to cripple the fed if he were POTUS.[/quote]
Would you rather have Obama? Because I believe obama needs to be fired. I think a lot of people could do a better job.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yeah well, I’d like to see how far this Jeffersonian Democrat pretending to be a Republican would go to cripple the fed if he were POTUS.[/quote]
Would you rather have Obama? Because I believe obama needs to be fired. I think a lot of people could do a better job.[/quote]
No I think Obama would be worse…probably. However Perry’s secessionist/libertarian kookiness does concern me.
I could not have done a better job!
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
what advantages and disadvantages are there regarding Rick Perry POTUS.[/quote]
Advantages: Fifth generation West Texan, Christian, track record of fiscal conservativism, pro-death penalty(but commuted a convicted murderer’s death sentence)
Disadvantages: Former Democrat, flip flopped on gay marriage recently, wrote a nutty liberatarian book(Fed Up!), signed HRC 50 and talks about seceding from the Union, HPC vaccine executive order, Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra corruption
That’s all I can come up with. Maybe someone else could add something. To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.[/quote]
Forgot one disadvantage, he is part of the bilderberg group. So he is more like pappa bush.
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Oh…this guy again. [/quote]
Good , but you don’t mean it.
I am just bringing up something for discussion about his associations that no one else has yet. He actually does belong to a group that wants to have a one world government and currency controlled by their elite group, and that shouldn’t be a concern.
I am not saying to support anyone just adding to the discussion so pull the tampon out and untie your panties.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Sweet Revenge wrote:
what advantages and disadvantages are there regarding Rick Perry POTUS.[/quote]
Advantages: Fifth generation West Texan, Christian, track record of fiscal conservativism, pro-death penalty(but commuted a convicted murderer’s death sentence)
Disadvantages: Former Democrat, flip flopped on gay marriage recently, wrote a nutty liberatarian book(Fed Up!), signed HRC 50 and talks about seceding from the Union, HPC vaccine executive order, Trans Texas Corridor/Cintra corruption
That’s all I can come up with. Maybe someone else could add something. To be honest the libertarian stuff leaves me with a deep and abiding concern about Perry’s judgement and character.[/quote]
Forgot one disadvantage, he is part of the bilderberg group. So he is more like pappa bush.
[/quote]
Oh…this guy again. [/quote]
Good , but you don’t mean it.
I am just bringing up something for discussion about his associations that no one else has yet. He actually does belong to a group that wants to have a one world government and currency controlled by their elite group, and that shouldn’t be a concern.
I am not saying to support anyone just adding to the discussion so pull the tampon out and untie your panties.
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Yes, he wants a one world government that’s why he threatened to make Texas an independent country.
(eye roll)
You bozos sure you want to vote for Rick Perry?
Rick Perry’s Big Donors Fare Well in Texas
Perry has received a total of $37 million over the last decade from just 150 individuals and couples, who are likely to form the backbone of his new effort to win the Republican presidential nomination. The tally represented more than a third of the $102 million he had raised as governor through December, according to data compiled by the watchdog group Texans for Public Justice, LaTi reports.
Nearly half of those mega-donors received hefty business contracts, tax breaks or appointments under Perry.
Auto magnate B.J. “Red” McCombs, who contributed nearly $400,000 to the governor, is the primary financial backer for a Formula One racetrack to be built near Austin. The state has pledged $25 million a year in subsidies to support the project.
The Houston-based engineering firm of James Dannenbaum, who gave more than $320,000 to Perry, received multiple transportation contracts from the state. In 2007, Perry appointed Dannenbaum to a coveted post on the University of Texas’ board of regents.
A Mississippi-based poultry company run by Joe Sanderson, who gave $165,000 to Perry, received a $500,000 grant from a state business incentive fund championed by Perry to open a chicken hatchery and processing plant in Waco.
LaTi has more, here.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I could not have done a better job!
That was really moving. I see Paul McCartney is one of the ‘key decision makers’ consulted. I hope he had a word with Bono too.
[quote]cloakmanor wrote:
You bozos sure you want to vote for Rick Perry?
Rick Perry’s Big Donors Fare Well in Texas
Perry has received a total of $37 million over the last decade from just 150 individuals and couples, who are likely to form the backbone of his new effort to win the Republican presidential nomination. The tally represented more than a third of the $102 million he had raised as governor through December, according to data compiled by the watchdog group Texans for Public Justice, LaTi reports.
Nearly half of those mega-donors received hefty business contracts, tax breaks or appointments under Perry.
Auto magnate B.J. “Red” McCombs, who contributed nearly $400,000 to the governor, is the primary financial backer for a Formula One racetrack to be built near Austin. The state has pledged $25 million a year in subsidies to support the project.
The Houston-based engineering firm of James Dannenbaum, who gave more than $320,000 to Perry, received multiple transportation contracts from the state. In 2007, Perry appointed Dannenbaum to a coveted post on the University of Texas’ board of regents.
A Mississippi-based poultry company run by Joe Sanderson, who gave $165,000 to Perry, received a $500,000 grant from a state business incentive fund championed by Perry to open a chicken hatchery and processing plant in Waco.
LaTi has more, here.[/quote]
Big deal! Not one single thing that you’ve posted even comes close to bothering me. There are people who have money who want to influence a candidate? OH MY GOSH!
REVELATION not
It’s called politics. Both parties have those folks in them. But you don’t understand that do you? You’re already to build some sort of conspiracy theory involving Perry before he’s even out of the gate. Because that’s what you guys do!
Go vote for Ron Paul see where it gets you. Hop on bus tours, Internet polls, pump him up as big as you can get him and he’ll still fail. Watch!
Well, one thing I can say about you Paulies (other than the great entertainment value:) You have absolutely ZERO experience in politics and you don’t even have a modicum of good sense regarding the same.
Zeb, you can talk down to me all you want. I am not some young wipper snapper or whatever you like to call people. My career is analysis.
Yes he is a globalist, he is big government. He is no better than obama, do some research on your own.
And I don’t care about just keeping the status quote I am looking for changes to the system. That is what we need.
If you are satisfied rolling over and taking it that is fine but you do it yourself.
I see you criticizing people who try to be independent, free and self sustainable all the time. You are a fool. If this is how you want america to be, then go ahead crawl back in your hole.
Some of us want real change, real freedom back and are looking for someone that can provide that.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yeah well, I’d like to see how far this Jeffersonian Democrat pretending to be a Republican would go to cripple the fed if he were POTUS.[/quote]
Would you rather have Obama? Because I believe obama needs to be fired. I think a lot of people could do a better job.[/quote]
No I think Obama would be worse…probably. However Perry’s secessionist/libertarian kookiness does concern me.[/quote]
Well, I am certainly not sold. I am saying right now he looks poised to take over. But I am willing to let the new car smell wear off and see where we are then.
Nonetheless, the candidate is really going to have to suck something fierce for me to vote in a manner that might let obama keep his job.
I am a Sergeant in the U.S. Army. I support Ron Paul and I support his foreign policy. I am sure you would not dare call me a Paultard to my face.
No, you would give me the same parroted line I hear 100 times a day, “Thank you for your service”. When I hear some flabby couch potato like you say that to me it makes me sick. Yes, I serve our country, but our wars do not.
I do my best to keep my men alive while we carry out this sick policy of sticking our noses in other peoples business. When was the last time you had a friend die in your arms or look for the leg that was just blown off of the man next to you? When was the last time you walked past dead children that were killed by U.S. weapons? I’m glad you can sleep at night, because many times I cannot. I have children myself you self righteous SOB. If someone killed my children you can bet I would do everything in my power to seek revenge.
You dare call me rabid and blind? I know what I am talking about. Why don’t you grab a gun and head to Iran if you want to fight them so much. Ron Paul is right. They are no threat to us. We need to mind our own business. They hate us not because we are rich and free, they hate us because we are in their countries.
It is people like you that are the biggest threat to this country, not Iran.BY SgtLewis on 08/16/2011 at 11:06
Couldn’t have said it better myself Zeb.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Zeb, you can talk down to me all you want. I am not some young wipper snapper or whatever you like to call people. My career is analysis.[/quote]
I don’t think I was talking down to you. Sorry you got that impression.
You just said he is no better than Obama. That tells me that you don’t know what you’re talking about regarding Rick Perry. He is against higher taxes that right there separates him from Obama. No one is really another Obama. Hillary Clinton isn’t even another Obama. The Clintons have always been pragmatists. Obama is an idealouge. When there was a chance to do something about the economy what did he do? He pushed national health care down our throats. He showed his true colors as he does every time he opens his mouth and scares small business. He’s by far the worst person that could have been elected from either party. So don’t say Perry is another Obama because there is no other Obama.
Well, I agree we do need this. But this time around the change you are talking about is NOT going to happen. We either take one step away from our demise by electing a republican, or we take one or two more steps toward our demise by reelecting Obama. The choice is clear.
[quote]I see you criticizing people who try to be independent, free and self sustainable all the time. You are a fool. If this is how you want america to be, then go ahead crawl back in your hole.
Some of us want real change, real freedom back and are looking for someone that can provide that. [/quote]
I live in a world that is real, where do you live? Do you live in a world where you think someone like Ron Paul is going to get elected President? Because if you do, you are the real fool my friend. There will either be a republican or a democrat elected to the Presidency in 2012. It will either be Obama, Romney, Perry, Bachman or another yet unannounced republican like Christie. But rest assured Ron Paul will NEVER become President. So if you decide to send him your money or hop on a bus to troll for him keep in mind that you are wasting your time and money. And while you are certainly not a kid you will be making the same mistakes that some 20 something males are making (that’s right young females don’t like Paul). And somehow it’s just a little bit more forgivable coming from someone who is 22 than from someone like you who is older and should know better.
Change happens in steps gradually. And those who think that a white knight is going to become President (Whether it’s Paul or someone else) are drinking the koolaide usually reserved for people who are just too young and know no better.