Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border?
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?[/quote]
I disagree, I think that a President could have a major effect on this failed war, Just for this point I would vote for Paul. The war on Drugs is funding most local law enforcements NOW and it is only fueling the fire
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?[/quote]
I disagree, I think that a President could have a major effect on this failed war, Just for this point I would vote for Paul. The war on Drugs is funding most local law enforcements NOW and it is only fueling the fire [/quote]
But that wasn’t the point. The point was about the open border batshittery. Legalising all drugs may very well solve many problems. It would likely create/worsen problems also. That’s not the issue. The issue is BORDERS. If you opened up your Mexican border you’d be up diddly doodly creek. However if you opened the Mexican border AND legaised all drugs you would be up diddly doodly creek without a paddle.
But if you SECURED the border and legalised all drugs you’d have twice as many smelly OWS types on welfare and schizophrenics…but less crime, less people in prison, more cops available.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?[/quote]
I disagree, I think that a President could have a major effect on this failed war, Just for this point I would vote for Paul. The war on Drugs is funding most local law enforcements NOW and it is only fueling the fire [/quote]
But that wasn’t the point. The point was about the open border batshittery. Legalising all drugs may very well solve many problems. It would likely create/worsen problems also. That’s not the issue. The issue is BORDERS. If you opened up your Mexican border you’d be up diddly doodly creek. However if you opened the Mexican border AND legaised all drugs you would be up diddly doodly creek without a paddle.
But if you SECURED the border and legalised all drugs you’d have twice as many smelly OWS types on welfare and schizophrenics…but less crime, less people in prison, more cops available.[/quote]
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
[quote]orion wrote:
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
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You don’t think smoking hydro all day and/or taking LSD/Mushrooms might make you more likely to develop schizophrenia? I don’t vouche for their accuracy but there are studies purporting to show that up to 80% of schizophrenics in urban areas smoke marijuana.
As I said, I don’t vouche for the accuracy of that but I don’t think it should be ignored.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
[/quote]
You don’t think smoking hydro all day and/or taking LSD/Mushrooms might make you more likely to develop schizophrenia? I don’t vouche for their accuracy but there are studies purporting to show that up to 80% of schizophrenics in urban areas smoke marijuana.
As I said, I don’t vouche for the accuracy of that but I don’t think it should be ignored.[/quote]
Ah, correlation =/= causations.
And we know that schizophrenics tend to use more drugs.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
[/quote]
You don’t think smoking hydro all day and/or taking LSD/Mushrooms might make you more likely to develop schizophrenia? I don’t vouche for their accuracy but there are studies purporting to show that up to 80% of schizophrenics in urban areas smoke marijuana.
As I said, I don’t vouche for the accuracy of that but I don’t think it should be ignored.[/quote]
Ah, correlation =/= causations.
And we know that schizophrenics tend to use more drugs.
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[quote]orion wrote:
Ah, correlation =/= causations.
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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
[/quote]
You don’t think smoking hydro all day and/or taking LSD/Mushrooms might make you more likely to develop schizophrenia? I don’t vouche for their accuracy but there are studies purporting to show that up to 80% of schizophrenics in urban areas smoke marijuana.
As I said, I don’t vouche for the accuracy of that but I don’t think it should be ignored.[/quote]
Ah, correlation =/= causations.
And we know that schizophrenics tend to use more drugs.
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No quite sure your point is with this graphic.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
More schizophrenics because of drug legalization?
Pray tell…
[/quote]
You don’t think smoking hydro all day and/or taking LSD/Mushrooms might make you more likely to develop schizophrenia? I don’t vouche for their accuracy but there are studies purporting to show that up to 80% of schizophrenics in urban areas smoke marijuana.
As I said, I don’t vouche for the accuracy of that but I don’t think it should be ignored.[/quote]
Ah, correlation =/= causations.
And we know that schizophrenics tend to use more drugs.
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No quite sure your point is with this graphic.[/quote]
That, good sir, is his counter argument. Pretty convincing if you ask me!
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?[/quote]
I disagree, I think that a President could have a major effect on this failed war, Just for this point I would vote for Paul. The war on Drugs is funding most local law enforcements NOW and it is only fueling the fire [/quote]
But that wasn’t the point. The point was about the open border batshittery. Legalising all drugs may very well solve many problems. It would likely create/worsen problems also. That’s not the issue. The issue is BORDERS. If you opened up your Mexican border you’d be up diddly doodly creek. However if you opened the Mexican border AND legaised all drugs you would be up diddly doodly creek without a paddle.
But if you SECURED the border and legalised all drugs you’d have twice as many smelly OWS types on welfare and schizophrenics…but less crime, less people in prison, more cops available.[/quote]
I personally agree, about the border batshittery , I don’t think there would be more cops if drugs were legal, at present they funding the police departments with federal money about the war on drugs. One thing is you would need less cops . I would be willing to bet it would slice the need for police over %50
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
Sexmachine, I’m fairly sure Mr. Paul is an advocate for legalization of certain drugs. Would this not have an affect on the drugs/gun problem at the border? [/quote]
It’s not relevant really because it’s never going to happen. Ron Paul would never be able to get something like that through the Senate - nor much of the rest of the stuff he says he’s going to do. Even if he did manage to legalise drugs, all the other problems associated with sharing a porous border with a failed state still exist.
Anyway, it’s usual Ron Paul batshit logic. Legalise all drugs - coke, heroin everything - open up the border - how many more illegal migrants do you want? With all drugs legal in US, still illegal in Central and South America and a completely open border - you want every junkie in Latin America making stakes for the US along with every peon who knows he can earn more in US than in his/her own country?[/quote]
I disagree, I think that a President could have a major effect on this failed war, Just for this point I would vote for Paul. The war on Drugs is funding most local law enforcements NOW and it is only fueling the fire [/quote]
But that wasn’t the point. The point was about the open border batshittery. Legalising all drugs may very well solve many problems. It would likely create/worsen problems also. That’s not the issue. The issue is BORDERS. If you opened up your Mexican border you’d be up diddly doodly creek. However if you opened the Mexican border AND legaised all drugs you would be up diddly doodly creek without a paddle.
But if you SECURED the border and legalised all drugs you’d have twice as many smelly OWS types on welfare and schizophrenics…but less crime, less people in prison, more cops available.[/quote]
I do not agree about being up diddly doody creek , I would be willing to bet drug use would go down
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I personally agree, about the border batshittery , I don’t think there would be more cops if drugs were legal, at present they funding the police departments with federal money about the war on drugs. One thing is you would need less cops . I would be willing to bet it would slice the need for police over %50
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I meant more cops available to go after ‘real’ criminals if drugs were legalised/decriminalised. And yes, you would need less cops.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I do not agree about being up diddly doody creek , I would be willing to bet drug use would go down [/quote]
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Open Mexican border
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Open Mexican border + legailise all drugs
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Legalise all drugs
I’m not arguing against 3.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I do not agree about being up diddly doody creek , I would be willing to bet drug use would go down [/quote]
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Open Mexican border
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Open Mexican border + legailise all drugs
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Legalise all drugs
I’m not arguing against 3.[/quote]
I am not for an open border but I could go along with it if there were a true living wage I would guess in most areas around $10 hr and some places $15. Labor is getting hammered by too large of labor pool, beating down the wage below livable. Legalize drugs . Get rid of as many paramilitary police as possible and hire Peace officers
the video is quite long but informative. At least to me.
Edit - I tried posting the video again.
I wanted to take my time in choosing a candidate. I have read their positions and while I do not align 100% with anyone, I find myself more and more impressed with Ron Paul.
Today I made a contribution to his campaign. Ron Paul is my choice.
[quote]JEATON wrote:
I wanted to take my time in choosing a candidate. I have read their positions and while I do not align 100% with anyone, I find myself more and more impressed with Ron Paul.
Today I made a contribution to his campaign. Ron Paul is my choice. [/quote]
…and there goes the Republic.
No excuse for ignorance.