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So I guess you like Ron Paul huh?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
This prtty much sums up my view of some of the Paulies:
Some one does not quite have a grasp would agree with that
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Count me among the unbamboozled.[/quote]
And it’s dumb as conceived.
It prevents federal courts from deciding Establishment Clause issues at the state level? If you are claiming that a law violates the Federal Constitution, the federal courts are open for business (it’s a federal questions). And, state laws are not insulated from federal review on federal questions - see the 14th Amendment. And a state law yields to a federal one - see the Supremacy Clause.
And the scope of prohibition is just silly - so a federal court can’t adjudicate issues related to sexual practices, orientation or reproduction? What about a Full Faith and Credit challenge to a state’s marriage laws as they apply in another state? Federal question, clearly, and two states are going to interested in seeing their (conflicting) rights vindicated…but Dr. Paul aims to rid federal courts of the ability to resolve this issue?
And the Congressional impeachment of federal judge who don’t adhere to this “lib-uhh-turr-ee-un” construct? By Congress? Setting aside that I am not sure that federal legislation could change the standard by which federal judges are removed in the (higher law of) the Constitution, no thanks - I’ll side with the Founding Fathers and try to preserve separation of powers.
This bill is nonsense. I don’t want federal courts redefining marriage under the Equal Protection Clause either, but this bill is nothing but proof that Paul’s yammering on “the Constitution!” to the point of fetishization masks any real understanding of the damn thing, and that his points of view are revisionist, not historical.
EDIT: typo, forgot underlined first time.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
This prtty much sums up my view of some of the Paulies:
Some one does not quite have a grasp would agree with that [/quote]
Pit, been reading your posts for a while and you are not one to point fingers about someone not having a grasp. I understand the Ron Paul attracting and I’ve analyzed here on T Nation many times–So run along with your nonsense.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
This prtty much sums up my view of some of the Paulies:
Some one does not quite have a grasp would agree with that [/quote]
Pit, been reading your posts for a while and you are not one to point fingers about someone not having a grasp. I understand the Ron Paul attracting and I’ve analyzed here on T Nation many times–So run along with your nonsense.[/quote]
I think I am one to speak however I feel , you may criticize my writing ability if you like , I would probably agree with you . I think my grasp on reality is just fine .
I remember having this same conversation with you in the 2008 election , time flys:) , just because you fight it tooth and nail does not mean you will be successful.
I think that his policies are being discussed is already a win
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think that his policies are being discussed is already a win[/quote]
And of course that almost 50% of all under 40 year olds vote for him in the primaries.
And that Rand Paul already starts to build a reputation and if he should run for the presidency he has a whole movement already in place.
Like or not, without the Paulbots, the Republican party has no future.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think that his policies are being discussed is already a win[/quote]
And of course that almost 50% of all under 40 year olds vote for him in the primaries.
And that Rand Paul already starts to build a reputation and if he should run for the presidency he has a whole movement already in place.
Like or not, without the Paulbots, the Republican party has no future. [/quote]
I do not think the Average Republican understands that,The average Republican still thinks America is founded on Christian values
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think that his policies are being discussed is already a win[/quote]
And of course that almost 50% of all under 40 year olds vote for him in the primaries.
And that Rand Paul already starts to build a reputation and if he should run for the presidency he has a whole movement already in place.
Like or not, without the Paulbots, the Republican party has no future. [/quote]
I do not think the Average Republican understands that,The average Republican still thinks America is founded on Christian values
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Well it is and to an even bigger degree it was, but if they think that that includes to the inalienable right to lord over their fellow human beings I suggest they look into that bible thing once again.
This time, more thoroughly.
[quote]Seinix wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Really…the We the People Act shouldn’t even have to be passed. It IS already built into the Constitution.[/quote]
If so, is it just silly…or political hypocrisy?
Since Marbury v. Madison, can Congress limit the purview of the Supreme Court?
Would you deny an individual’s rights to petition for his (federal) rights against a state’s power? Would this Act violate the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments?
Perhaps Dr. Paul should just ask to repeal them, along with the 16th and 17th.
Is it any wonder that Dr. Paul has had but one bill passed in 20 odd years in the House?
Count me among the unbamboozled.
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Its funny how “trendy” Ron Paul has become. Show a mouse something shiny and he chases after it.
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I liked you better when you were just a lurker.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Count me among the unbamboozled.[/quote]
And it’s dumb as conceived.
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This bill is nonsense. I don’t want federal courts redefining marriage under the Equal Protection Clause either, but this bill is nothing but proof that Paul’s yammering on “the Constitution!” to the point of fetishization masks any real understanding of the damn thing, and that his points of view are revisionist, not historical.
…[/quote]
Yep.
In short:
Congress cannot remove the Supreme Court’s right to review legislation
If a State violates an individual’s rights, Congress cannot remove his right to defend his rights in a Federal jurisdiction.
I find it distinctly amusing, that orion, the self-appointed guardian of our Constitutional rights, applauds this measure, but finds the NDAA objectionable because he imagines it deprives individuals of their rights. Is it because Dr. Paul can do no wrong, to orion and other Paulbots?
As for Paul, he repeatedly violates his own skimpy principles; e.g., he would Federalize abortion law, rather than allow States their legal and historical rights.
Paul cannot be that incompetent. This is his version of purposeless grandstanding: Hypocrisy is simply the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
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Dr Paul takes a page from Karl Lueger, who was somewhat…ahem…selective in his choice of friends.
According to Amos Elon, "Lueger’s anti-Semitism was of a homespun, flexible variety - one might almost say gemütlich. Asked to explain the fact that many of his friends were Jews, Lueger famously replied: ‘I decide who is a Jew.’ "
So, as Lifty points out: von Mises and Rothbard…good! Proof! (And maybe this Anti-Zionist is almost worthy of a handshake and photo-op.)
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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Rothbard…good! Proof!
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Yep. More proof Paul’s a crackpot. Rothbard was a political extremist - for all intents and purposes an anarchist. He advocated the destruction of the state and a communal-based society based exlusively on protection of private property rights and ‘liberty’ - although he didn’t like the ‘libertine’ results produced amongst the ‘libertarians.’ Hence his alliance with the neo-Confederates after the Libertarian Party consistently failed to achieve even 1% of the vote in their Presidential bids.
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Count me among the unbamboozled.[/quote]
And it’s dumb as conceived.
…
This bill is nonsense. I don’t want federal courts redefining marriage under the Equal Protection Clause either, but this bill is nothing but proof that Paul’s yammering on “the Constitution!” to the point of fetishization masks any real understanding of the damn thing, and that his points of view are revisionist, not historical.
…[/quote]
Yep.
In short:
Congress cannot remove the Supreme Court’s right to review legislation
If a State violates an individual’s rights, Congress cannot remove his right to defend his rights in a Federal jurisdiction.
I find it distinctly amusing, that orion, the self-appointed guardian of our Constitutional rights, applauds this measure, but finds the NDAA objectionable because he imagines it deprives individuals of their rights. Is it because Dr. Paul can do no wrong, to orion and other Paulbots?
As for Paul, he repeatedly violates his own skimpy principles; e.g., he would Federalize abortion law, rather than allow States their legal and historical rights.
Paul cannot be that incompetent. This is his version of purposeless grandstanding: Hypocrisy is simply the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
[/quote]
Lies- Ron Paul 2012!
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Count me among the unbamboozled.[/quote]
And it’s dumb as conceived.
…
This bill is nonsense. I don’t want federal courts redefining marriage under the Equal Protection Clause either, but this bill is nothing but proof that Paul’s yammering on “the Constitution!” to the point of fetishization masks any real understanding of the damn thing, and that his points of view are revisionist, not historical.
…[/quote]
Yep.
In short:
Congress cannot remove the Supreme Court’s right to review legislation
If a State violates an individual’s rights, Congress cannot remove his right to defend his rights in a Federal jurisdiction.
I find it distinctly amusing, that orion, the self-appointed guardian of our Constitutional rights, applauds this measure, but finds the NDAA objectionable because he imagines it deprives individuals of their rights. Is it because Dr. Paul can do no wrong, to orion and other Paulbots?
As for Paul, he repeatedly violates his own skimpy principles; e.g., he would Federalize abortion law, rather than allow States their legal and historical rights.
Paul cannot be that incompetent. This is his version of purposeless grandstanding: Hypocrisy is simply the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
[/quote]
Lies- Ron Paul 2012![/quote]

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