Ron Paul On The Record

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:

Such a honor-hugging dimwit wants to become US president?
HilarioUS!
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I actually like the guy but I have to agree with you. He made me wretch in my mouth a little when he started using emotive, rhetorical speech. Honor? I believe Ron Paul was correct when he rightly called it “saving face”–which is all there is left at this point. Yippy!

[quote]rainjack wrote:

You really need to read more posts in this thread. I posed my questions earlier. Someone who had actually read the previous discussion might know this.

You either don’t know how to read, or you enjoy making baseless assumptions .[/quote]

I think I just asked you what you meant by “intellectual honesty”. It seemed like a simple question to me.

If you think you have written anything that would inspire me to find more of your posts then you’re mistaken.

You can answer my question now, or if you’d like to keep referring me to your past posts I guess I can live with not knowing.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
mstott25 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I watched the debates tonight - and it became blatantly obvious why all the cradle-to-grave socialists have such a hard-on for Paul.

He wants out of Iraq.

So much for intellectual honesty.

It is a joke. Paul would dismantle so many things they support yet because he wants out of Iraq he is their hero?

What are the so many things we support? The Federal Reserve? The Department of Education?

The EPA, HUD, affirmitive action, Roe v Wade, gun control…
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I don’t “support” any of those things. Why would I support affirmitive [sic] action? Why would I support gun control or the EPA or HUD??? I’m a married middle class white male with two children and a fucking government job - what makes you think I’m liberal or I benefit from any of the above mentioned government programs? Close them all, quit wasting money.

[quote]rainjack wrote:

Welfare
Social Security
Dept of Education
Pretty much everything FDR set up in the New Deal
Pretty much everything LBJ set up in the Great Society

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Exactly - all things that should go. Every government program that has ever made it’s goal to improve education, civil rights, or eliminate poverty should be thrown out the window. Private businesses could come up with much better plans and taxpayers would not be forced to spend their money, we could choose which programs to support. I still don’t see the problem…

[quote]mstott25 wrote:
I think I just asked you what you meant by “intellectual honesty”. It seemed like a simple question to me.[/quote]

Playing the innocent little question asker does not become you - especially when you can’t even repeat your question correctly.

Here - since you have trouble with going back in a thread, I have taken the liberty of reposting exactly what you said, and put your “question” in bold type. I certainly hope you have the mental wherewithal to distinguish bold from italics. If that is not the case, I am sure you can find a third grader to help you.

[i]Ron Paul couldn’t have said it any better - the same people that told us Iraq would be a cakewalk and wouldn’t cost anything are now preaching the horrors of withdrawal. Why believe them?!?

Paul’s been opposed to the war since day one, you can look up his congressional speeches and voting record prior to the Iraqi invasion. He was right then and he’s right now. What “intellectual honestly” are you talking about?

By the way Ron Paul is the antithesis of socialism, either you don’t understand socialism or you don’t understand Paul. Giuliani touting his national ID card was the closest thing to a socialist last night.[/i]

Who said anything about “inspiring”? I merely suggested you get a fucking clue before spouting off at the pie hole. If being uninformed about the context of an ongoing discussion, or making yourself look like an complete douche bag is not a problem for you - then by all means, don’t click on the previous pages.

Now - which one of your inane questions needs to be answered? And in what context should I answer it/them? Seeing as how you can’t even get your own fucking words right, I seriously doubt you could do much but read whatever you want into my answer(s).

I will say that your cluelessness in this matter is simply awe-inspiring. But that is not an issue for me to remedy.

[quote]mstott25 wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Welfare
Social Security
Dept of Education
Pretty much everything FDR set up in the New Deal
Pretty much everything LBJ set up in the Great Society

Exactly - all things that should go. Every government program that has ever made it’s goal to improve education, civil rights, or eliminate poverty should be thrown out the window. Private businesses could come up with much better plans and taxpayers would not be forced to spend their money, we could choose which programs to support. I still don’t see the problem…[/quote]

Somehow I knew you wouldn’t. Ignorance is a bitch, no?

[quote]rainjack wrote:

Playing the innocent little question asker does not become you - especially when you can’t even repeat your question correctly.

Here - since you have trouble with going back in a thread, I have taken the liberty of reposting exactly what you said, and put your “question” in bold type. I certainly hope you have the mental wherewithal to distinguish bold from italics. If that is not the case, I am sure you can find a third grader to help you.

[i]Ron Paul couldn’t have said it any better - the same people that told us Iraq would be a cakewalk and wouldn’t cost anything are now preaching the horrors of withdrawal. Why believe them?!?

Paul’s been opposed to the war since day one, you can look up his congressional speeches and voting record prior to the Iraqi invasion. He was right then and he’s right now. What “intellectual honestly” are you talking about?

By the way Ron Paul is the antithesis of socialism, either you don’t understand socialism or you don’t understand Paul. Giuliani touting his national ID card was the closest thing to a socialist last night.[/i]

If you think you have written anything that would inspire me to find more of your posts then you’re mistaken.

Who said anything about “inspiring”? I merely suggested you get a fucking clue before spouting off at the pie hole. If being uninformed about the context of an ongoing discussion, or making yourself look like an complete douche bag is not a problem for you - then by all means, don’t click on the previous pages.

You can answer my question now, or if you’d like to keep referring me to your past posts I guess I can live with not knowing.

Now - which one of your inane questions needs to be answered? And in what context should I answer it/them? Seeing as how you can’t even get your own fucking words right, I seriously doubt you could do much but read whatever you want into my answer(s).

I will say that your cluelessness in this matter is simply awe-inspiring. But that is not an issue for me to remedy.
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Nevermind. I asked twice and you still couldn’t get it, I guess I don’t really care seeing as how you just wasted my time with your stupid bullshit and accomplished nothing.

I am curious about where you were going to find a 3rd grader to help me though, do you make it a habit to know 3rd graders in different cities across America, or do you just happen to know a few in North Carolina that you would send my way?

[quote]rainjack wrote:

Somehow I knew you wouldn’t. Ignorance is a bitch, no? [/quote]

No, actually that’s the absolute fucking opposite thing ignorance is you ignorant fuck. Ignorance is bliss which is why you can carry a job and keep typing about third graders and ignorance yet not answer one fucking question as to why Ron Paul is not “intellectually honest” without throwing a fucking fit.

Is it that hard to answer a question? Do you really have to go through all of these theatrics in order to evade one fucking question? Wait a second, I don’t care what you think anyways.

[quote]mstott25 wrote:

No, actually that’s the absolute fucking opposite thing ignorance is you ignorant fuck. Ignorance is bliss which is why you can carry a job and keep typing about third graders and ignorance yet not answer one fucking question as to why Ron Paul is not “intellectually honest” without throwing a fucking fit.
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You seem to be an expert on ignorance, so I will gladly defer to you on the subject.

I never said Paul was intellectually dishonest. I believe I have already addressed your penchant for making baseless assumptions.

You should really work on your reading comprehension skills. They might come in handy some day. Who knows, the waffle house might need an assistant manager.

[quote]mstott25 wrote:

I am curious about where you were going to find a 3rd grader to help me though, do you make it a habit to know 3rd graders in different cities across America, or do you just happen to know a few in North Carolina that you would send my way?
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I never said I could find a 3rd grader. I said that you could probably find one - just ask a class mate if you could talk to their big brother/sister.

Once again - READING COMPREHENSION, it’s not just theory. Really.

[quote]rainjack wrote:

I never said Paul was intellectually dishonest. I believe I have already addressed your penchant for making baseless assumptions.

You should really work on your reading comprehension skills. They might come in handy some day. Who knows, the waffle house might need an assistant manager.

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Right, you just said he wants out of Iraq - so much for intellectual honesty which prompted my question - What intellectual honesty are you talking about? To which you have rambled on and on about 3rd graders, ignorance, waffle house, and reading comprehension but you still can’t answer a fucking question. “Read more posts…ask a big brother…get a job at waffle house…” Meanwhile there’s a fucking retard wearing a diaper and hearing protection next to every single one of your posts.

Just because you’re a little bitch in real life and everybody treads on you doesn’t mean we’re all bullying you here too. I just asked you a question, you are the one with PMS who is so blinded by your napoleon syndrome that you can’t tell me why you would say “So much for intellectual honesty” with respect to Paul’s stance on the war. Take a deep breath, call your mom and tell her you’re upset because of how she mistreated you, and come up with something more substantial then your one sentence assertions and menopausal ramblings.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
mstott25:

Perhaps you should have been a bit more clear regarding your premise.

Your original statement read:

This is the first election since the 50’s where there isn’t an incumbent running for election.

Actually, a sitting VP who is running for President is NOT an incumbent President. You should have been a bit more clear regarding your point.

Now get busy and actually refute the 6 reasons why Paul can’t win.

Oh that’s right you tried and failed miserably.

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Hey is it JeffR or Mick28? Sometimes I forget which handle you’re logged in under.

[quote]mstott25 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
mstott25 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I watched the debates tonight - and it became blatantly obvious why all the cradle-to-grave socialists have such a hard-on for Paul.

He wants out of Iraq.

So much for intellectual honesty.

It is a joke. Paul would dismantle so many things they support yet because he wants out of Iraq he is their hero?

What are the so many things we support? The Federal Reserve? The Department of Education?

The EPA, HUD, affirmitive action, Roe v Wade, gun control…

I don’t “support” any of those things. Why would I support affirmitive [sic] action? Why would I support gun control or the EPA or HUD??? I’m a married middle class white male with two children and a fucking government job - what makes you think I’m liberal or I benefit from any of the above mentioned government programs? Close them all, quit wasting money. [/quote]

You work for the fucking government? Ron Paul would fire your useless ass in a heartbeat!

[quote]rainjack wrote:

I never said I could find a 3rd grader. I said that you could probably find one - just ask a class mate if you could talk to their big brother/sister.

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Oh, I get it!!! Funny!!! You should post more often. You should also ask one of your co-workers if “classmate” is always seperated into two words or just by fucking retards! Tell me again how smart you are…

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
mstott25 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
mstott25 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I watched the debates tonight - and it became blatantly obvious why all the cradle-to-grave socialists have such a hard-on for Paul.

He wants out of Iraq.

So much for intellectual honesty.

It is a joke. Paul would dismantle so many things they support yet because he wants out of Iraq he is their hero?

What are the so many things we support? The Federal Reserve? The Department of Education?

The EPA, HUD, affirmitive action, Roe v Wade, gun control…

I don’t “support” any of those things. Why would I support affirmitive [sic] action? Why would I support gun control or the EPA or HUD??? I’m a married middle class white male with two children and a fucking government job - what makes you think I’m liberal or I benefit from any of the above mentioned government programs? Close them all, quit wasting money.

You work for the fucking government? Ron Paul would fire your useless ass in a heartbeat!
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Oh really?!? I missed the part where the US Army was getting shut down. Oh well!