[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
It’s cool, though - Uncle Ron has the 17-22 year old “rage against the machine” demographic locked up, so he should give Kucinich one hell of a run for his money.[/quote]
Uh, no. But he DOESN’T. Do you realize what you are writing? You and Mick are so completely off the mark that in your attempts at ridiculing Ron Paul, you only manage to ridicule yourselves.
I understand what you both of you are trying to do. You’re trying to taunt Ron Paul and his supporters on this forum, such as me. When you taunt someone, you usually take a basic assumption about a person and expand on that in a direction that he would prefer not to go. The credibility of the taunt is directly tied to the validity of the assumption on which it is based. What happens when you base a taunt on a wildly inaccurate and frivolous assumption? Well, it doesn’t go over well and you look like an idiot and a jackass. That is precisely how you and Mick are coming across, although neither of you have the faintest clue of it. You picture yourselves as wry veterans in a forum of political novices and hopeless optimists. It’s a fancy picture. Only problem is, it’s utterly false.
I’m telling you and Mick, as a plain fact, that your taunts suck. It’s not because I support Ron Paul and want to see him elected. Although both of those statements apply to me, they have absolutely nothing to do with the credibility of your taunts and my judgement thereof.
You don’t understand Ron Paul, what he stands for, where he is coming from, who he is, what types of people would be inclined to support him, and why he’s got a fighting chance in 2008.
You just don’t. Disagreement has nothing to do with it. It’s all about understanding.
You are welcome to try and spin and duck your way out of this, but until you demonstrate some signs of understanding Ron Paul (not necessarily agreeing with him), my conclusion stands.
Now, here’s why your assumption is wrong and your taunts suck:
Ron Paul is NOT the primary candidate of the College Crowd, the Big City Techno-elites, etc…
Understand this:
He is unique among the viable Republican candidates in that he will be able to draw some votes from this crowd. HOWEVER, the majority of these people will still vote Democrat in 08, as they always have (if they even vote at all).
Do you want to know what types of people comprise Ron Paul’s constituency (as a long-time Congressman, let’s not forget that he already has one in place)? I’ll tell you: It’s mostly middle class, white males age 45 and over. These are the types of people who have sent donations from out-of-state in order to fund his Congressional runs in Texas. It isn’t college kids. It isn’t big city liberals. It’s hard working, middle class, American, white, MEN. Pretty much the same constituency which makes up the majority of this forum (though I’d bet the average Ron Paul supporter is a good deal wealthier than the average T-Nation member).
Your average Ron Paul supporter thinks about issues like the Gold Standard, protectionism, trade agreements, immigration, and the Second Amendment. Think Lou Dobbs or Pat Buchanan, NOT Ralph Nader or AlBore.
In regards to Ron Paul’s internet popularity, let’s get something straight: Who runs the internet? What types of people actually created the information structure of the net? Engineers, computer scientists, physicists, mathematicians, linguists, economists, and others from traditionally conservative, male-dominated fields. Sure, the kiddies USE the net, but these people actually RUN it. THEY make up the bulk of the techno-phile Libertarian movement on the net which has massively lent its support to Ron Paul.
College kids, women, and other clueless populations vote for liberals. This is a known fact. Ron Paul is conservative to the bone. This is another known fact. Now take the facts and apply them to your posts, and come up with a better taunt next time. Or maybe you could go so far as to try formulating a real argument. Is that too much to ask? Probably.
