Romney vs. Santorum; It's ON!

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I happen to know ALOT about Mormonism and it will be a field day even from conservatives. Mormonism is a science fiction/fantasy cartoon set to religion. No I do not mean in the way that they already view the true gospel. I mean so that Bill Mahr said in his movie that even by whacked out religious standards, Mormonism is in a class by itself with a history that is a leftists dream. I KNOW what I am talkin about. Here’s a quick bit that took me three seconds to dig up http://vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html [/quote]

How about no one gives a shit and we actually focus on the guys ability to run an organization?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I happen to know ALOT about Mormonism and it will be a field day even from conservatives. Mormonism is a science fiction/fantasy cartoon set to religion. No I do not mean in the way that they already view the true gospel. I mean so that Bill Mahr said in his movie that even by whacked out religious standards, Mormonism is in a class by itself with a history that is a leftists dream. I KNOW what I am talkin about. Here’s a quick bit that took me three seconds to dig up http://vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html [/quote]

How about no one gives a shit and we actually focus on the guys ability to run an organization?

[/quote]WE might do that, but THEY won’t, is Sloth’s valid point. That’s not hate. Come on man.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

Yeah, it’s definitly a problem for Romney. As to you mentioning the magic underwear deal, I’ve read it on other posts you’ve written. Whether you were quoting someone else all those times I do not know. [/quote]

Um, the only other time I remember is when I blasted someone (bigflamer, I think) else for saying it…Shouldn’t you have been sure about this, first? And this time, I’m quoting a NYT columnist in light of a side discussion about liberals, the mainstream media, mormonism, and getting Obama re-elected.

Yes, even the more Conservative Santorum can admit his mistakes. Tell us one thing, has Romney ever admitted to Romneycare being a mistake? All I’ve seen him do is playing advocate for it on principle, and for it’s mechanics (individual mandate). How about adjusting minimum to inflation (where the heck that even come from)? Hmm?

There isn’t going to be a Romney administration.

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bigflamer wrote:
Very true, but do they wear magic Mormon underwear and have perfect hair?

ZEB wrote:
Do you make fun of Catholics and Protestants too, or is it just Mormons that you hate?

Me:
I’ve got the guy on ignore. To be clear, his infatuation with Romney’s underwear is not mine.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/291860/romney-conservative-immigration-steve-baldwin

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SANTORUM SURGING FROM BEHIND…

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I happen to know ALOT about Mormonism and it will be a field day even from conservatives. Mormonism is a science fiction/fantasy cartoon set to religion. No I do not mean in the way that they already view the true gospel. I mean so that Bill Mahr said in his movie that even by whacked out religious standards, Mormonism is in a class by itself with a history that is a leftists dream. I KNOW what I am talkin about. Here’s a quick bit that took me three seconds to dig up http://vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html [/quote]

How about no one gives a shit and we actually focus on the guys ability to run an organization?

[/quote]WE might do that, but THEY won’t, is Sloth’s valid point. That’s not hate. Come on man.
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Yeah, I can see your point. I guess I was mislead by the fact that one or both of you is mentioning it in every other post regarding Romney.

My mistake.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:
ZEB wrote:

Yeah, it’s definitly a problem for Romney. As to you mentioning the magic underwear deal, I’ve read it on other posts you’ve written. Whether you were quoting someone else all those times I do not know.

Um, the only other time I remember is when I blasted someone (bigflamer, I think) else for saying it…Shouldn’t you have been sure about this, first? And this time, I’m quoting a NYT columnist in light of a side discussion about liberals, the mainstream media, mormonism, and getting Obama re-elected. [/quote]

Well, there are two ways to look at this. If you have been truly quoting sources every time, and I have no reason to believe that you’re not, then why that quote all the time? You could have picked out any other quote but it always seems to be the magic underwear quote. Sometimes you do slam him with other things but that one is certainly your favorite.

[quote]“I made lots of mistakes…I would do it differently…Hey you have to be a team player in Washington…”

Yes, even the more Conservative Santorum can admit his mistakes. Tell us one thing, has Romney ever admitted to Romneycare being a mistake? All I’ve seen him do is playing advocate for it on principle, and for it’s mechanics (individual mandate). How about adjusting minimum to inflation (where the heck that even come from)? Hmm?[/quote]

Sloth, it’s not about “mistakes” it’s about playing the game correctly. And Santorum for several reasons can’t seem to do it.

[quote]As I said months ago, Santorum is not ready for prime time. Four more years of sitting around, or in a cabinet position in a Romney administration may help him grow.

There isn’t going to be a Romney administration. [/quote]

Probably not, but one thing is for sure, there aint gonna be no Santorum administration either Bub!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

Well, there are two ways to look at this. If you have been truly quoting sources every time, and I have no reason to believe that you’re not, then why that quote all the time? You could have picked out any other quote but it always seems to be the magic underwear quote. Sometimes you do slam him with other things but that one is certainly your favorite.[/quote]

I’m completely lost…

On Romney’s underwear–I’ve only quoted YOU, to agree with you in opposition to bigflamer, and a NYT columnist. The NYT columnist quote was to point out that the media/lefties aren’t above taking on Mormonism if they feel it’ll help Obama. I had Mufasa and others in mind who seem concerned with Republican acceptance of Mormonism. I’m reminding them that the left isn’t innocent here.

I recall no other mention by me.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I happen to know ALOT about Mormonism and it will be a field day even from conservatives. Mormonism is a science fiction/fantasy cartoon set to religion. No I do not mean in the way that they already view the true gospel. I mean so that Bill Mahr said in his movie that even by whacked out religious standards, Mormonism is in a class by itself with a history that is a leftists dream. I KNOW what I am talkin about. Here’s a quick bit that took me three seconds to dig up http://vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html [/quote]

How about no one gives a shit and we actually focus on the guys ability to run an organization?

[/quote]WE might do that, but THEY won’t, is Sloth’s valid point. That’s not hate. Come on man.
[/quote]

Yeah, I can see your point. I guess I was mislead by the fact that one or both of you is mentioning it in every other post regarding Romney.

My mistake.[/quote]Ok, no biggie. We all want this marxist sent home this fall. There’s gonna be some tension along the way.

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[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Well, there are two ways to look at this. If you have been truly quoting sources every time, and I have no reason to believe that you’re not, then why that quote all the time? You could have picked out any other quote but it always seems to be the magic underwear quote. Sometimes you do slam him with other things but that one is certainly your favorite.[/quote]

I’m completely lost…

On Romney’s underwear–I’ve only quoted YOU, to agree with you in opposition to bigflamer, and a NYT columnist. The NYT columnist quote was to point out that the media/lefties aren’t above taking on Mormonism if they feel it’ll help Obama. I had Mufasa and others in mind who seem concerned with Republican acceptance of Mormonism. I’m reminding them that the left isn’t innocent here.

I recall no other mention by me.

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It doesn’t matter. It’s like Santorum criticising Obama’s ‘theology.’ Doesn’t matter what you really said. Just remember that the words “magic under****” are now taboo. Like the words “Hussein Obama.” You just aren’t allowed to say it.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
I didn’t hear him say those things. Perhaps I misheard or misunderstood. [/quote]

Okay, that’s me paraphrasing. He was talking about the U.S. healthcare system then suddenly switches to Lebanon and starts praising Hezbollah’s healthcare system. Then he says the U.S. should try to emulate their ‘healthcare diplomacy’ around the world. As if the U.S. doesn’t already provide aid all over the globe. As if it would change peoples’ “perceptions” of the U.S. in the Muslim world(it doesn’t.) And using Hezbollah as a model of all people.[/quote]

Well, I would agree with him if he thinks it can change people’s perceptions in a wide variety of countries (including some in MENA). A lot of others do too (on the right and the left), but of course you know that. I am not particularly well versed on Lebanon though, so perhaps you are making a point about that country. Regardless of perception, most foreign policy experts agree in the importance of Development in national security matters. I don’t really like Romney much, but I thought that was all he was saying.

[quote]
National security is about more than bullets. “Smart power,”“soft power” and the “Three D’s” (development, diplomacy and defense) are widely accepted as important and effective foreign policy principles.

This piece was written by former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, James Baker, Lawrence Eagleburger, Warren Christopher, Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.[/quote] U.S. needs more foreign diplomats - POLITICO

Also, I don’t know much about AusAid or the Ozzie version of WorldVision, but WorldVision is an AMAZING organization that works in parts of the world where no one else would go. They have had some issues over the years, but given their size and scope that seems inevitable. I hope you can agree on the quality of that particular organization. I don’t work for them but I have worked with them in the past. I have only the nicest things to say about them. Sorry for the rant. http://www.worldvision.org/content.nsf/about/aboutus-home

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Well, there are two ways to look at this. If you have been truly quoting sources every time, and I have no reason to believe that you’re not, then why that quote all the time? You could have picked out any other quote but it always seems to be the magic underwear quote. Sometimes you do slam him with other things but that one is certainly your favorite.[/quote]

I’m completely lost…

On Romney’s underwear–I’ve only quoted YOU, to agree with you in opposition to bigflamer, and a NYT columnist. The NYT columnist quote was to point out that the media/lefties aren’t above taking on Mormonism if they feel it’ll help Obama. I had Mufasa and others in mind who seem concerned with Republican acceptance of Mormonism. I’m reminding them that the left isn’t innocent here.

I recall no other mention by me.

[/quote]

It doesn’t matter. It’s like Santorum criticising Obama’s ‘theology.’ Doesn’t matter what you really said. Just remember that the words “magic under****” are now taboo. Like the words “Hussein Obama.” You just aren’t allowed to say it.[/quote]

The fact is many people do attack Romney because of his Mormonism. I think Sloth may be correct that he only said it a couple of times (hard to keep track as there are many who attack him for his religion) but nonetheless why even mention it in that light? We are choosing a President we need to look at the man’s experience P E R I O D. This has nothing to do with his religion. Experience is king! And in fact if the press exposed Obama’s lack of experience instead of being the hype machine for his campaign he may not have done as well in 08’.

If we do not elect a man who has the experience to turn this mess around we are in big trouble. Some of you guys need to look past your personal preference and toward the only man who has executive leadership in both business and government. That man is Romney, the only guy in the race with such experience.

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Just wait til they dig up Kolob from the book of Abraham referenced above and the fact that Hitler is in heaven. (Well, the lowest of the three levels anyway). Just wait til somebody asks him how many celestial wives he’s been married to in the temple for his exaltation as a god so he can populate his own planet. Just wait til… nevermind… gym time.

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Mormonism theology is wacky. However, the lives they lead are exemplary.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
The press is now all over Santorum and by super Tuesday will have just about killed his candidacy. But if you think about it they’ve been all over every candidate. And the only one who has been able to consistently stand up to the press and pull solid numbers along the way has been Romney. And this in the face of not only hte press attacking him but his fellow candidates attacking him as well.

There’s a reason for that.

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He is already bought and paid for?

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
…However, the lives they lead are exemplary. [/quote]

Absolute bullshit.[/quote]

Okay wise guy name one thing that Donny Osmond has done that is not exemplary!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
…However, the lives they lead are exemplary. [/quote]

Absolute bullshit.[/quote]

Okay wise guy name one thing that Donny Osmond has done that is not exemplary!

[/quote]

“Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat”???

Mufasa