Chris Wallace - that was the interview. Bill leaned over and began tapping him on the knee after the finger poking started to get a bit repetitive.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
The question would be can Santorum learn temperament and come off much less snarly and in control of his frustration and anger.
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Could you elaborate on this and give some examples mufasa?[/quote]
It’s impressions and perceptions based on his overall public performance…from debates to speeches…to his replies to reporters (like this past weekend).
Impressions and perceptions are not “right” or "wrong’ because they are based on ones own personal perspective. So your impressions of Santorum will most likely be much different from mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Sure our perceptions of him would be different. But I was a little surprised to see him described as ‘snarly’ and having uncontrolled ‘frustration and anger.’ That’s why I was interested in seeing the specific incident. Perhaps you mean this:
I’ve seen Bill Clinton getting angry and poking his finger at reporters as well - many times. But Bill shouts and intimidates to silence legitimate questioning - like he did about his handling of OBL(can’t remember the interviewer.) Surprised that this incident alone in context would define Santorum as having uncontrolled frustration and anger.[/quote]
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Clinton did most of his snarling after he was President. The one time he lost it as Candidate Clinton was during a debate when someone attacked his wife. He stepped up to the plate growled and scored many debating points.
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The average non right wing voter (those currently paying attention) view Santorum as an angry right wing Christian guy. Now that helps him in the deep south because they seeth with hate for Obama. But in the general election this would sink him faster than Donald Trump sprinting to the nearest TV camera.
And if he keeps up his anti Romney rhetoric there will be no political Rick Santorum after this election.
He’s already talked himself out of a good cabinet post should Romney win the Presidency. And Romney can win PA (vs Obama) without Santorum. Should Romney lose many will no doubt blame Rick Santorum. He has gone well over the edge of good clean spirited political competition. And this has been noted. With every anti Romney phrase that he now utters he further digs his own political grave. But as a zealot he does not recognize this, he’s on a mission (he thinks) and he has delusions of grandeur dancing in his head.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Should Romney lose many will no doubt blame Rick Santorum. He has gone well over the edge of good clean spirited political competition. And this has been noted. With every anti Romney phrase that he now utters he further digs his own political grave. But as a zealot he does not recognize this, he’s on a mission (he thinks) and he has delusions of grandeur dancing in his head.[/quote]
Romney will lose. And it’ll have nothing to do with Santorum. It’ll have everything to do with not listening to folks like Santorum. Romney is horrible. Terrible. There is absolutely nothing Santorum has said/will say that Obama won’t. If Romney is sunk by a guy spending $2.54/vote…Obama will abuse him on his way to reelection.
“So how much has the entire Romney campaign spent per vote received? $17.14, which is a lot more than the $2.54 that Santorum spent, or the $9.05 that Gingrich has spent, and topped only by the $31.55 that Paul spent.”
Read more: Mitt Romney Is Paying a Lot for Each Vote: $17.14 | TIME.com
Weak candidate. And here you go already making excuses for inevitable loss to Obama.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Should Romney lose many will no doubt blame Rick Santorum. He has gone well over the edge of good clean spirited political competition. And this has been noted. With every anti Romney phrase that he now utters he further digs his own political grave. But as a zealot he does not recognize this, he’s on a mission (he thinks) and he has delusions of grandeur dancing in his head.
Romney will lose. And it’ll have nothing to do with Santorum. [/quote]
It will indeed have something to do with what Santorum is saying. If he isn’t helping and he isn’t silent that means he’s hurting. You can’t have a major Presidential candidate saying what he’s saying without it causing damage. And that is exactly how it is perceived in (and out of) republican circles as well. I used to like Santorum but I’m seeing a side of him that is selfish and darn near out of control. I maintain this is because of his inexperience at this level. But it is beyond annoying now and the republican party will make him pay. Watch and see Sloth.
[quote]It’ll have everything to do with not listening to folks like Santorum. Romney is horrible. Terrible. There is absolutely nothing Santorum has said/will say that Obama won’t. If Romney is sunk by a guy spending $2.54/vote…Obama will abuse him on his way to reelection. “So how much has the entire Romney campaign spent per vote received? $17.14, which is a lot more than the $2.54 that Santorum spent, or the $9.05 that Gingrich has spent, and topped only by the $31.55 that Paul spent.”
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Oh the horror of Mitt Romney…Women and children running for cover – LOL. If Romney is so horrible how come he has 1 million more votes than Santorum? Oh wait I know your answer “it’s the money…”
I’ve addressed that issue already really good candidates, the one’s that win have money, and an organization. They don’t run a campaign on a shoe string like Santorum. You see that indicates that he has not convinced enough people from the beginning that he was viable. And those many people he went to for money in the beginning (as all candidates do) were correct Rick Santorum is not ready for prime time.
You know that Iv’e said from the beginning, all over this board, that Obama was going to be difficult to beat regardless of who the republicans nominate. And I gave a number of reasons. The fact that Santorum has flipped his lid, gets baited into talking about social issues, swears at a NYT reporter and can’t shut his big mouth about Romney proves that I was right about him from the beginning. The Obama machine would eat him up and spit him out. Santorum is just one more hurdle that Romney and company now have to clear. Santorum has done a good job—for the democrats!
SM:
Zeb has spelled things out extremely well.
Perceptions about Santorum are NOT based on a single incident, but have developed over time.
(Again; perceptions will vary based on people’s experiences and perspective).
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
SM:
Zeb has spelled things out extremely well.
Perceptions about Santorum are NOT based on a single incident, but have developed over time.
(Again; perceptions will vary based on people’s experiences and perspective).
Mufasa[/quote]
That last line read like a disclaimer…“we are not responsible for the misuse of this product. Santorum can become volatile when heated.”
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Should Romney lose many will no doubt blame Rick Santorum. He has gone well over the edge of good clean spirited political competition. And this has been noted. With every anti Romney phrase that he now utters he further digs his own political grave. But as a zealot he does not recognize this, he’s on a mission (he thinks) and he has delusions of grandeur dancing in his head.
Romney will lose. And it’ll have nothing to do with Santorum. [/quote]
It will indeed have something to do with what Santorum is saying. If he isn’t helping and he isn’t silent that means he’s hurting. You can’t have a major Presidential candidate saying what he’s saying without it causing damage. And that is exactly how it is perceived in (and out of) republican circles as well. I used to like Santorum but I’m seeing a side of him that is selfish and darn near out of control. I maintain this is because of his inexperience at this level. But it is beyond annoying now and the republican party will make him pay. Watch and see Sloth.
[quote]It’ll have everything to do with not listening to folks like Santorum. Romney is horrible. Terrible. There is absolutely nothing Santorum has said/will say that Obama won’t. If Romney is sunk by a guy spending $2.54/vote…Obama will abuse him on his way to reelection. “So how much has the entire Romney campaign spent per vote received? $17.14, which is a lot more than the $2.54 that Santorum spent, or the $9.05 that Gingrich has spent, and topped only by the $31.55 that Paul spent.”
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Oh the horror of Mitt Romney…Women and children running for cover – LOL. If Romney is so horrible how come he has 1 million more votes than Santorum? Oh wait I know your answer “it’s the money…”
I’ve addressed that issue already really good candidates, the one’s that win have money, and an organization. They don’t run a campaign on a shoe string like Santorum. You see that indicates that he has not convinced enough people from the beginning that he was viable. And those many people he went to for money in the beginning (as all candidates do) were correct Rick Santorum is not ready for prime time.
You know that Iv’e said from the beginning, all over this board, that Obama was going to be difficult to beat regardless of who the republicans nominate. And I gave a number of reasons. The fact that Santorum has flipped his lid, gets baited into talking about social issues, swears at a NYT reporter and can’t shut his big mouth about Romney proves that I was right about him from the beginning. The Obama machine would eat him up and spit him out. Santorum is just one more hurdle that Romney and company now have to clear. Santorum has done a good job—for the democrats![/quote]
Weak, phony, candidate. Can’t even finish off a guy on a shoe-string budget.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
SM:
Zeb has spelled things out extremely well.
Perceptions about Santorum are NOT based on a single incident, but have developed over time.
(Again; perceptions will vary based on people’s experiences and perspective).
Mufasa[/quote]
That last line read like a disclaimer…“we are not responsible for the misuse of this product. Santorum can become volatile when heated.”[/quote]
Hey, at least Santorum actually cares. The only time Romneybot shows a genuine side is when he’s being ‘grilled’ by Fox news over his flip-flops.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Should Romney lose many will no doubt blame Rick Santorum. He has gone well over the edge of good clean spirited political competition. And this has been noted. With every anti Romney phrase that he now utters he further digs his own political grave. But as a zealot he does not recognize this, he’s on a mission (he thinks) and he has delusions of grandeur dancing in his head.
Romney will lose. And it’ll have nothing to do with Santorum. [/quote]
It will indeed have something to do with what Santorum is saying. If he isn’t helping and he isn’t silent that means he’s hurting. You can’t have a major Presidential candidate saying what he’s saying without it causing damage. And that is exactly how it is perceived in (and out of) republican circles as well. I used to like Santorum but I’m seeing a side of him that is selfish and darn near out of control. I maintain this is because of his inexperience at this level. But it is beyond annoying now and the republican party will make him pay. Watch and see Sloth.
[quote]It’ll have everything to do with not listening to folks like Santorum. Romney is horrible. Terrible. There is absolutely nothing Santorum has said/will say that Obama won’t. If Romney is sunk by a guy spending $2.54/vote…Obama will abuse him on his way to reelection. “So how much has the entire Romney campaign spent per vote received? $17.14, which is a lot more than the $2.54 that Santorum spent, or the $9.05 that Gingrich has spent, and topped only by the $31.55 that Paul spent.”
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Oh the horror of Mitt Romney…Women and children running for cover – LOL. If Romney is so horrible how come he has 1 million more votes than Santorum? Oh wait I know your answer “it’s the money…”
I’ve addressed that issue already really good candidates, the one’s that win have money, and an organization. They don’t run a campaign on a shoe string like Santorum. You see that indicates that he has not convinced enough people from the beginning that he was viable. And those many people he went to for money in the beginning (as all candidates do) were correct Rick Santorum is not ready for prime time.
You know that Iv’e said from the beginning, all over this board, that Obama was going to be difficult to beat regardless of who the republicans nominate. And I gave a number of reasons. The fact that Santorum has flipped his lid, gets baited into talking about social issues, swears at a NYT reporter and can’t shut his big mouth about Romney proves that I was right about him from the beginning. The Obama machine would eat him up and spit him out. Santorum is just one more hurdle that Romney and company now have to clear. Santorum has done a good job—for the democrats![/quote]
Weak, phony, candidate. Can’t even finish off a guy on a shoe-string budget. [/quote]
Nice one, that should help Obama!
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
SM:
Zeb has spelled things out extremely well.
Perceptions about Santorum are NOT based on a single incident, but have developed over time.
(Again; perceptions will vary based on people’s experiences and perspective).
Mufasa[/quote]
That last line read like a disclaimer…“we are not responsible for the misuse of this product. Santorum can become volatile when heated.”[/quote]
Hey, at least Santorum actually cares. The only time Romneybot shows a genuine side is when he’s being ‘grilled’ by Fox news over his flip-flops.
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Excellent turn of a phrase. Anything else that would encourage people to vote for Obama?
You must have more in you for the Obama cause–Come on Sloth you can do it!
Hey Sloth ole’ buddy how about a Santorum/Palin ticket. Now there’s a couple of conservaties that the red meat eaters would just love! They might not capture more than 35% or 40% of the vote but doggoneit THEY ARE REAL CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS!
YEEEEHAAAAAA…OOPS that was Howard Dean huh?
What’s wrong Zeb, some of us won’t come to Romney’s coronation? Earlier it was all about ‘how the game was played’ with you. About getting out of the kitchen if it was too hot.
Sorry, but I would be ashamed to vote for an outright fraud of such epic proportions. I will not help the republicans settle on a candidate who, in 2009, was offering his individual mandate as model for Obama’s approach to healthcare. If we’re the red meat conservatives, Romney and his supporters are more like one slice of turkey, and a whole lot of bologna, on your choice of bread.
When he loses, and badly. Blame yourselves. When the conservative base starts to look elsewhere, blame yourselves.
Not sure why you’re so out of sorts, anyways. You’ve been saying all along that the conservatives will be stuck voting for him, so as to vote against Obama. Where’s the confidence? Now you seem distraught, as if $2.54/vote man has more persuasiveness per dollar spent than $17.14/vote Romney can deal with. If that isn’t an admission of what an empty, but mighty fine and expensive, suit Romney is…well, I just don’t know. My goodness, Obama is going to mount Romney on a wall by the time this is over.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What’s wrong Zeb, some of us won’t come to Romney’s coronation? Earlier it was all about ‘how the game was played’ with you. About getting out of the kitchen if it was too hot.
Sorry, but I would be ashamed to vote for an outright fraud of such epic proportions. I will not help the republicans settle on a candidate who, in 2009, was offering his individual mandate as model for Obama’s approach to healthcare. If we’re the red meat conservatives, Romney and his supporters are more like one slice of turkey, and a whole lot of bologna, on your choice of bread.
When he loses, and badly. Blame yourselves. When the conservative base starts to look elsewhere, blame yourselves. [/quote]
This may have been one of your finer pro Obama posts.
Nice work Sloth…enjoy the higher taxes, the left wing judges and all the other things you are ASSURED of getting should Obama win.
But you know that and you are doing his bidding.
Nice!
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What’s wrong Zeb, some of us won’t come to Romney’s coronation? Earlier it was all about ‘how the game was played’ with you. About getting out of the kitchen if it was too hot.
Sorry, but I would be ashamed to vote for an outright fraud of such epic proportions. I will not help the republicans settle on a candidate who, in 2009, was offering his individual mandate as model for Obama’s approach to healthcare. If we’re the red meat conservatives, Romney and his supporters are more like one slice of turkey, and a whole lot of bologna, on your choice of bread.
When he loses, and badly. Blame yourselves. When the conservative base starts to look elsewhere, blame yourselves. [/quote]
This may have been one of your finer pro Obama posts.
Nice work Sloth…enjoy the higher taxes, the left wing judges and all the other things you are ASSURED of getting should Obama win.
But you know that and you are doing his bidding.
Nice![/quote]
Save the pro Obama taunts for the kiddies. I’m too old to be moved by the overused, “not voting for our guy, is a vote for the Democrat.” No, it’s a vote for neither.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What’s wrong Zeb, some of us won’t come to Romney’s coronation? Earlier it was all about ‘how the game was played’ with you. About getting out of the kitchen if it was too hot.
Sorry, but I would be ashamed to vote for an outright fraud of such epic proportions. I will not help the republicans settle on a candidate who, in 2009, was offering his individual mandate as model for Obama’s approach to healthcare. If we’re the red meat conservatives, Romney and his supporters are more like one slice of turkey, and a whole lot of bologna, on your choice of bread.
When he loses, and badly. Blame yourselves. When the conservative base starts to look elsewhere, blame yourselves. [/quote]
This may have been one of your finer pro Obama posts.
Nice work Sloth…enjoy the higher taxes, the left wing judges and all the other things you are ASSURED of getting should Obama win.
But you know that and you are doing his bidding.
Nice![/quote]
Save the pro Obama taunts for the kiddies. I’m too old to be moved by the overused, “not voting for our guy, is a vote for the Democrat.” No, it’s a vote for neither.
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Just for the kiddies? Really?
Well tell me something if Obama could not get your support don’t you think he’d rather you stay home than support the GOP nominee? And you are doing so much more than that as you speak out against the GOP nominee.
So I contend that you are in fact doing Obama’s bidding.
There is a time to stop the fighting and unite behind our nominee. And perhaps you and Rick Santorum might see that day coming…soon.
Hope springs eternal.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Just for the kiddies? Really?
Well tell me something if Obama could not get your support don’t you think he’d rather you stay home than support the GOP nominee? And you are doing so much more than that as you speak out against the GOP nominee.
So I contend that you are in fact doing Obama’s bidding.[/quote]
I want you to post on these forums. You will obey my bidding. Cripes, sell it somewhere else.
Not my nominee, I don’t consider myself a republican anymore. Haven’t for some time. And no, I won’t see that time coming. I’ll vote for candidates, or not. I will never again vote for a party.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Just for the kiddies? Really?
Well tell me something if Obama could not get your support don’t you think he’d rather you stay home than support the GOP nominee? And you are doing so much more than that as you speak out against the GOP nominee.
So I contend that you are in fact doing Obama’s bidding.[/quote]
I want you to post on these forums. You will obey my bidding. Cripes, sell it somewhere else.
Not my nominee, I don’t consider myself a republican anymore. Haven’t for some time. And no, I won’t see that time coming. I’ll vote for candidates, or not. I will never again vote for a party.
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Okay Slothy I think I’m pretty clear on where you’re coming from from this point forward.
Thanks for the clarification.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Okay Slothy I think I’m pretty clear on where you’re coming from from this point forward.
Thanks for the clarification.
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You obeyed!