[quote]rainjack wrote:
Prisoner#22 wrote:
I will just say this (and I have said this before on here)
It is the diet that gets you ripped not the cycle.
I have been ripped while taking 2 gram of test a week with dbol, and abombs.
Yes certain drugs will cause you to hold a little more water then others. That is the big difference, and this only becomes apparrent, when you are stepping on the contest stage.
You can easily get down to 6 % bf or less and look ripped taking any combination of steroids, as long as your diet is on point.
Conversly, you can be 20% bf very quickly no matter how much tren, winny, masteron, primo, e.t.c you use, if you are on a bulking diet.
Water retention will be just as bad, with back pump, moon face and all.
It all comes down to your diet and cardio, not the drugs.
I agree with this to a point.
I know from personal experience that tren kills my appetite. For me - it makes no sense to use a drug I know will inhibit my ability to achieve a goal. I don’t take tren when I am trying to add weight.
Likewise with the equipoise. Why would you take it to lose weight if you are one of the folks that - when on it - has a huge increase in appetite?
I think you are correct with the assumption that test is test, and that you can either cut or bulk very effectively on it regardless of ester.
However - like I said - I think there are other steroids out there that some folks just shouldn’t take because they can produce side effects counter to the goal at hand. Tren and equipoise are two of them. [/quote]
Bro, Keep in mind this is very subjective. As everyone will have varing degrees of sides on these drugs such as appetite changes.