RNC 2012

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Filmmaker Michael Moore predicts Romney wins.

Who cares what that admitted communist thinks?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You would have to take your medication before you coukld wrap your mind around that Zeb

Eh…I’m not a libertarian and I think that when the rubber hits the road that most of the libertarian points just don’t measure up.

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It’s because you are so old. :wink:

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I don’t know cutting the military budget in half and legalizing (all) drugs just doesn’t make sense to me.

But I agree with you if I was young and naive I would feel that these are good things ;)[/quote]

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[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think your idea of legalized weed sounds better than the reality of legalized weed.

Unless you are here and see it for yourself, don’t talk to me about theory, as I see the shit in front of me daily.

Apparently you are ok with pot stores being within walking distance to schools and daycares. Awesome, we can make sure the caretakers of those kids get loaded up right before they run their afterschool programs.

You think making one decision over another has no consequence, dude I live here and see the shit all the time.

What seems apparent, is that the grass is not greener on this side, with pot being legalized.

Your idea about taxing the drug, and using it to pay for drug treatment, sounds like a dog chasing it’s tail.

Legal weed = more weed smokers = more drug treatment. It’s a wash (at best). Drug rehab is expensive, WAY more than $1.89 lb of weed would bring in to tax coffers.

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Its okay you want to demonize weed. How much more damage do you think alcohol does than weed? People can buy that everywhere. I would say hands down alcohol is much more damaging than weed to society and when it was banned what happened? Lets learn from the past a bit.[/quote]

I always love it when the legalize pot crowd brings up alcohol. That usually means that they’ve just lost the debate.

By the way, not that I’m for banning alcohol but when it was illegal there was less alcoholism. Less people killed by those who were DUI. Less crime of every crime alcohol related.

As Max said he lives it why don’t you just take his word for it. I think his reality is probably a much better indicator of what would happen nationally than your pie in the sky theories.

Give it up.

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[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

What do you think about gun control? Which side of that is greener?[/quote]

The side that allows the citizens to defend themselves against a government tyranny. [/quote]

Right on brother like the tyranny that is trying to keep me from my weed and porn! :P[/quote]

Who in the world is trying to keep you from your porn? That is probably the funniest thing that I’ve read on this board in a long, long time.

Just go to google and start typing you’ll be confronted with all the porn your little heart desires.

Ha ha…keep you from your porn…(pounding table…that was some funny stuff right there!!)

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57501243-10391704/smoking-marijuana-regularly-as-a-teen-may-lower-iq-scores-as-an-adult/

Looks like I can shoe-horn this into the thread, with the most recent discussion and all. New publication concerning pot use and teens.

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@ sloth , I read that in my local paper, They did not say much about the study , were these kids from the same group that most likely smoked pot ?(THERE IS A TYPE) . They some how got them before and after smoking ?I would love to know how they did it . Any one with info , i would love to hear about it

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think your idea of legalized weed sounds better than the reality of legalized weed.

Unless you are here and see it for yourself, don’t talk to me about theory, as I see the shit in front of me daily.

Apparently you are ok with pot stores being within walking distance to schools and daycares. Awesome, we can make sure the caretakers of those kids get loaded up right before they run their afterschool programs.

You think making one decision over another has no consequence, dude I live here and see the shit all the time.

What seems apparent, is that the grass is not greener on this side, with pot being legalized.

Your idea about taxing the drug, and using it to pay for drug treatment, sounds like a dog chasing it’s tail.

Legal weed = more weed smokers = more drug treatment. It’s a wash (at best). Drug rehab is expensive, WAY more than $1.89 lb of weed would bring in to tax coffers.

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Its okay you want to demonize weed. How much more damage do you think alcohol does than weed? People can buy that everywhere. I would say hands down alcohol is much more damaging than weed to society and when it was banned what happened? Lets learn from the past a bit.[/quote]

I always love it when the legalize pot crowd brings up alcohol. That usually means that they’ve just lost the debate.

By the way, not that I’m for banning alcohol but when it was illegal there was less alcoholism. Less people killed by those who were DUI. Less crime of every crime alcohol related.

As Max said he lives it why don’t you just take his word for it. I think his reality is probably a much better indicator of what would happen nationally than your pie in the sky theories.

Give it up.

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Your post is entirely fictional. Please don’t try to pass it off as fact and think that dog will hunt. You are intellectually dishonest and thus its a pita to have any type of discourse with you that isn’t some type of echo chamber of talking points. You believe largely as Mitt Romney does eh? Which week or which day?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]groo wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

What do you think about gun control? Which side of that is greener?[/quote]

The side that allows the citizens to defend themselves against a government tyranny. [/quote]

Right on brother like the tyranny that is trying to keep me from my weed and porn! :P[/quote]

Who in the world is trying to keep you from your porn? That is probably the funniest thing that I’ve read on this board in a long, long time.

Just go to google and start typing you’ll be confronted with all the porn your little heart desires.

Ha ha…keep you from your porn…(pounding table…that was some funny stuff right there!!)[/quote]

Not sure what else to do when an emoticon doesn’t work. Just how fucking old are you?

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I’m pretty sure he’s older than I am.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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haha, touche[/quote]

HHAA this is idiocy . This is why drugs are still a crime . There are fat cats making all kind of money off this was on drugs . Please any one tell me what we have bought for all the money spent on prohibition ? Zeb and beans this is stupid

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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haha, touche[/quote]

There are fat cats making all kind of money off this was on drugs . Please any one tell me what we have bought for all the money spent on prohibition ?
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Lots of good stable gubment jobs! According to the tax and spend theories, this is what keeps our economy moving.

Don’t you enjoy knowing that your tax dollars are being put to good use that everybody benefits from?

Aren’t you proud to support people who are essentially highly trained and well armed home invasion experts, ordered to eradicate something you hold so dear?

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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haha, touche[/quote]

There are fat cats making all kind of money off this was on drugs . Please any one tell me what we have bought for all the money spent on prohibition ?
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Lots of good stable gubment jobs! According to the tax and spend theories, this is what keeps our economy moving.

Don’t you enjoy knowing that your tax dollars are being put to good use that everybody benefits from?

Aren’t you proud to support people who are essentially highly trained and well armed home invasion experts, ordered to eradicate something you hold so dear?
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I mean they do hit very small and moving targets, like tiny little dogs, so I am sure there must have been some kind of training…

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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haha, touche[/quote]

HHAA this is idiocy . This is why drugs are still a crime . There are fat cats making all kind of money off this was on drugs . Please any one tell me what we have bought for all the money spent on prohibition ? Zeb and beans this is stupid
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Actually, I blame your admitted drug use for part of the reason why you don’t understand some very basic points that myself and others have taken great pains to explain to you over the years.

Anyway…if you want to talk legalization of drugs start a thread and if I’m in the mood I’ll chime in.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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haha, touche[/quote]

HHAA this is idiocy . This is why drugs are still a crime . There are fat cats making all kind of money off this was on drugs . Please any one tell me what we have bought for all the money spent on prohibition ? Zeb and beans this is stupid
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Actually, I blame your admitted drug use for part of the reason why you don’t understand some very basic points that myself and others have taken great pains to explain to you over the years.

Anyway…if you want to talk legalization of drugs start a thread and if I’m in the mood I’ll chime in.[/quote]

Great Idea , no one has ever done a thread on the war on drugs :slight_smile: I will have to wait for the next news story that puts a new spin on it

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http://www.hulu.com/watch/397329?playlist_id=1031

I know it is Jon Dailey but it is good show ,

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think your idea of legalized weed sounds better than the reality of legalized weed.

Unless you are here and see it for yourself, don’t talk to me about theory, as I see the shit in front of me daily.

Apparently you are ok with pot stores being within walking distance to schools and daycares. Awesome, we can make sure the caretakers of those kids get loaded up right before they run their afterschool programs.

You think making one decision over another has no consequence, dude I live here and see the shit all the time.

What seems apparent, is that the grass is not greener on this side, with pot being legalized.

Your idea about taxing the drug, and using it to pay for drug treatment, sounds like a dog chasing it’s tail.

Legal weed = more weed smokers = more drug treatment. It’s a wash (at best). Drug rehab is expensive, WAY more than $1.89 lb of weed would bring in to tax coffers.

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Question, has the scene in Colorado been as bad as you say it is in California? I was there just a few weeks ago and it seems to be working just fine (no I don’t live there but I do have friends and contacts living there). I don’t see a jump in crime rate or anything based around that, or tons of potheads ruining things. Could it just be Cali’s fucked up culture?

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Look at that, The fat bastard finally got one thing completely correct: "to assume that the other side is just a bunch of ignoramuses who are supported by people who believe that Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago is to completely misjudge the opposition.? …

“Moore went on to say that Obama?s base is more apathetic than they were in 2008”.

Of course, everything else he said is pure horseshit, but hell…there’s a first for everything.

From the article posted earlier on him predicting a Romney win.

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think your idea of legalized weed sounds better than the reality of legalized weed.

Unless you are here and see it for yourself, don’t talk to me about theory, as I see the shit in front of me daily.

Apparently you are ok with pot stores being within walking distance to schools and daycares. Awesome, we can make sure the caretakers of those kids get loaded up right before they run their afterschool programs.

You think making one decision over another has no consequence, dude I live here and see the shit all the time.

What seems apparent, is that the grass is not greener on this side, with pot being legalized.

Your idea about taxing the drug, and using it to pay for drug treatment, sounds like a dog chasing it’s tail.

Legal weed = more weed smokers = more drug treatment. It’s a wash (at best). Drug rehab is expensive, WAY more than $1.89 lb of weed would bring in to tax coffers.

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Question, has the scene in Colorado been as bad as you say it is in California? I was there just a few weeks ago and it seems to be working just fine (no I don’t live there but I do have friends and contacts living there). I don’t see a jump in crime rate or anything based around that, or tons of potheads ruining things. Could it just be Cali’s fucked up culture?
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He is blowing things out of proportion. Have there been robberies yes but, it is not a daily thing. There will always be people who will try to commit crime when given the opportunity just like they do to liquor stores, mini-marts and gas stations. There was a recent article that showed that in areas where there were marijuana dispensaries crime has not jumped. Every robbery does however get a lot of coverage making it seem worse than it is.

About them being close to schools, I have seen online complaints and news coverage of dispensaries 600ft and 1000ft away. What is the issue? Liquor stores are on every corner and it is not a rare occurrence to see drunks/homeless there. Having a medical marijuana card does not allow you to light up where ever you please or show up to work high, it is not a free pass.

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As long as noone addresses the real issue, the real issue being that marijuana makes naturally chaste white girls to listen to that pounding, driving, rhythmical jazz music and have sex with negro musicians under the influence of said demon, we will never get to the heart of this issue.

Listen guys, this is what you are gonna embrace, or you will find some bs rationalization because weed has been outlawed for as long as you can remember so… it… simply…has…

to…

be…

that…

way.

Interestingly enough, tradition is about passing on the torch, not glorifying the ashes.

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So, anyone keeping count of the words and such made racist by Republican usage? For example, ‘Chicago’ is now a racist word. ‘PGA tour’ (yes, golf), has also become racist. Oh, and ‘angry.’ I mean, wasn’t that one obvious?!

“On the matter of those racist dog-whistles all these middle-aged white liberals keep hearing, the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto put it very well: ‘The thing we adore about these dog-whistle kerfuffles is that the people who react to the whistle always assume it’s intended for somebody else,’ he wrote. ‘The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you’re the dog.’ And a very rare breed at that. What frequency does a Mitch McConnell speech have to be ringing inside your head for even the most racially obsessed Caucasian MSNBC anchorman to hear the words ‘PGA tour’ as ‘deep-rooted white insecurities about black male sexuality’ That’s way beyond dog-whistling, and somewhere between barking mad and frothing rabid.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/315661

Yes, Obama’s record is so terrible that ‘Chicago is a racist dog-whistle’ actually becomes an argument. Anything but the economic record. Don’t talk about it! Wait, did Romney just use the word ‘angry?!’ Jim Crow days ahead!