Rise Of The Slaya 2019- Next Strongman Comp prep and fixing my hip

Wish someone told this to be my freshman year at college haha. Very good life lesson there

@duketheslaya dont skip classes. Could easily become habit forming. Skip one class, not so bad, think you can do it again cause its no biggie, then you stay in that mindset and end up skipping half the semester.

Hey Young Duke please reread what @T3hPwnisher wrote.

It’s not that you can easily pass and go thru, it’s the fact that you blame the school/college everybody else but you, for what’s happening.
If you’d stayed in school, they haven’t been forced to react to what you did.
What you could take away from this is, to do everything you can to be a better version of you, everyday in every aspect of life.

You have to trust me and everybody that’s boringly adults around here, that if you fuck stuff up, the only person that’s going to suffer is you. (and perhaps you mom and dad, because no matter what it’s not what they wanted or intended, I know you sometimes have rough times with them, but they don’t want to see you fail in life).

Well young Duke I hope it won’t happen again, otherwise I’ll have to jump on the next plane.

Keep up the otherwise good stuff happening in life to you :slight_smile:

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Never skip class for a girl man, if they’re worth your time they’ll respect your schedule and hang out with you some other time during the day!!

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Yeah that would be a bad habit.

Erm… not really? I already knew id get in trouble for wagging. Im not blaming them?

I said earlier up that they banned me because i wagged and i already knew i get punished.

Very true man.

You’re right. Thanks guys!

It wont.

Yeah i will man!

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Infinity war was awesome!!!

I think you put your point across very well, just not sure Duke is ready to fully understand or accept it. I hope I am wrong. Duke try reading the post again very slowly. Especially the part around where you are the one responsible for this. Just think that no matter what is happening around you or too you. It is you who decides how to behave. If you are not deciding then you are giving control to someone else and that is not a place you want to be EVER. It’s good to hear you are doing better in school but just think how much better you could be if you make better decisions and control your own life. Good luck man

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Im confused why you all think i was saying i wasnt.

I said i wagged and the college banned me…???

Thats exactly right.

Yes i can make my own choices but i hate how so much shit is put of my control.

Until im an adult and out of this stupid place and once i work full time, only then can i fully be in control of my own life. Right now its ruled by adults and there rules/ whatever they say even if its stupid like no using the gym without someone else with you, which meant no training for me so far this year which has absolutely sucked. I cant wait till im an adult and earn a full wage so i can buy the shit i want, go to the places i want/ make the choices i want and the only person bossing me around is the law, Whoever pays my wages,people who deserve my respect and thats it. Il be happy when im done with trash teenage years, i havent enjoyed them anyway. Thanks man!

I hope you don’t think I was having a go or being negative because that wasn’t the intention. Just keep doing your best mate and school will fly by and you can get your wish of a job and money. I just hope that it is everything you think it will be. Stay positive and keep smiling.

No man, sorry if my post seemed like that.

Thanks simo.

I know its not going to be all sunshine and rainbows, and obviously being an adult means alot more responsibilities, but to be honest right now i feel like a bird with a broken wing, where i just really want to fly away except until the wing heals in a couple of years, im stuck on the ground.

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Hey young Duke, just had a conversation with a Kiwi mate of mine.
When we were 16 - 20, we didn’t really know each other, but we both did the hanging out with a bunch of equals in age and mind, and boy did we think we knew it all. But we came through and so will you.

It sounds a bit like we’re picking a bit on you. But that’s just how old peeps talk. We don’t want you to do the same mistakes we did.
You’re doing absolutely fine Young Duke, We’ve all been there waiting to be an adult, trust me it’s not worth it.
You grind those teeth through school, get the best out of it, as long as they don’t throw you out and you’ll pass the exams with grades that can get you to where you want, you’ll be fine.
And everytime you fuck up, the choir will roar again. But it’s because, well, we like you.

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And it will be the rest of your life…

There really isn’t much difference in what you are experiencing and adulthood. In fact you have a ton more freedom and independence than my kids ever did.

I think you have a bunch going for you. Your strong willed determination and independence are great. They cause grown ups a lot of frustration right now for you, and those attributes will serve the adult @duketheslaya well.

Once thing you miss. Life is not all about you. And until you learn some form of compliance with social norms around you, you will always standout and draw concern from authorities, people responsible for you, or just people. I’m not saying it is a bad thing because it is not always a negative, but understand if you don’t learn to conform to the standards around you, a life of pain awaits you. Right now you are young…I would try and learn the lesson now instead of having the world pack your backside in for 8-10 years and then learning it.

I never said change who you are…you can’t. But you can present a you to the world around you that isn’t disruptive, or disrespectful. Or perceived that way.

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This is going to get pretty philosophical, so bear with me.

Being an adult will not make you free. And being not an adult does not make you not free. Freedom is a choice and a mindset, not a state of being. I know many adults that are still slaves and children, and I’ve known children that are free.

Right now, you have made yourself a slave. There are rules and laws, and the only thing that makes you comply with those rules and laws are punishment for non-compliance. That is a slaves’ mentality. You are correct that you have the choice to no comply, but you ALSO have the choice to COMPLY with the laws. Not because you will be punished if you don’t, but because you freely and willingly CHOOSE to comply with the laws. THAT is absolute and total freedom. To do what you do because you choose to do it.

I’m stealing this from Camus, but think of Sisyphus. He is condemned to roll the boulder up the hill for all eternity, only to have it roll back down and have to start over. But what if, on the way back to the bottom of the hill, instead of rolling it because he is forced to, at that moment, he instead chooses to roll the boulder up the hill? In that moment, he has become free.

Duke, the moment you choose to act not out of fear of consequences but out of freedom, you will be free. Until then, if the only thing that keeps you complying with laws and rules are fear of consequences, you will be a slave until you die.

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Thankyou mort!

No one is ever fully in control of every single thing but when you’re a kid, you can’t be as independent as you would like, im talking about simple stuff like people telling you " until you’re an adult, you’ll have no choice but to do this or live here" etc etc. Or say if i wanted to go Rock climbing this weekend, i can’t go rock climbing myself because i have to rely on other people to get me there. When im an adult and have a license, i have more freedom to get to rock climbing without others restricting me from it. The only person restricting me will be myself and whatever responsibilities i have e.g work.

Thankyou man, also it does cause people alot of frustration, im too stubborn for my own good.

I’ll admit i can be very selfish, gladly im slowly growing out of it. I mean if everyone got what they wanted all the time, Humans would be extinct already.

I think i’ll always have a rebellious side that doesn’t want to obey and comply with the social normalities. Slowly but steadily i slim that down and i’ll keep doing that. It’s all part of growing up really. I mean throwback to when i was 12 ( how did i not get arrested) blowing deoderant up in the middle of the night scaring the shit out of my mum and sister, or selling smokes at school. I did some really stupid sh*t that i’d never do again lol.

Yep! I can do that.

I think i don’t understand what you are saying. I wouldnt rob a bank out of fear of punishment, rather i wouldn’t rob the bank because stealing is wrong and my morals and values do not support it.

However when i wagged last week i knew there would be punishment, but i didn’t care. i happily wagged. isn’t that freedom?

But when i got more punishment then i expected, it made me not want to wag again so now i’m a slave because of the fear of punishment?

If say there was a rule that you cant eat donuts and if you do the punishment is a $500 dollar fine, how could you follow that willingly when you really love donuts? I would only follow it because of fear of punishment. So that makes me a slave because i didnt freely comply with the rules?

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Love ya like a lil brother! Stay focused and life will be amazing!

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Haha :joy:

Love ya too losthog. Thanks man!

Here you demonstrate that, in both cases, you live in a state of fear of punishment. In the first case, you simply presumed a lesser severity of punishment, and you did not fear punishment of THAT severity, but you STILL feared punishment in total. That is living as a slave.

Yes; a man who lives according to the will of another purely out of fear of retribution is the exact definition of what a slave is. However, you also demonstrate slavery on 2 levels, as this person is a slave to their emotions. Much like your plea of “my hormones compel me to act” is a similar rhetoric.

Love is a choice. The man who loves donuts can also choose to NOT love donuts, and in doing so, his non-consumption of donuts is freedom. The same man can also consume donuts without fear of any amount of retribution, because his morals and values compel him to live authentically enough to consume these donuts. He is living freely, and that man is a rebel. But a man who only eats the donuts because they are at peace with the severity of the punishment is merely a criminal, and in turn, they are not free.

Ideally Duke, one day you will choose to comply with the laws that govern your existence because doing so meets your goals, not because not doing so will incur a punishment severe enough for you to desire not to. Much like how you choose to not rob a bank because it fits your moral character, choosing to not skip school because it also fits your moral character would also serve you well, and in doing so it would cause you no existential anguish. It would be your choice.

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I’ve got not much to add, but I really appreciate your opinions and how you articulate yourself. For a meathead you are really quite profound. This paragraph really sums up your intellect IMO.

Thanks man.

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I know what you’re saying about wanting to be free. Do yourself a favor and keep that mindset for the rest of your life, and some day you’ll have some very interesting stories to tell. It’s easy to get caught in the tide of complacency and normalcy, something I’m trying not to do right now. I’m only a couple of years older than you but I’ll tell you that Uni has extreme highs and lows in terms of freedom. Harsher punishments for messing up, but you also get to do pretty much whatever you want, whenever you want, in the States at least.

The type of freedom that people want is unique to each individual I think. For me, I like the freedom of being able to drive where I want, when I want. If I want to drink or do drugs or get a tattoo I can do it, but I choose not to. I don’t know if it’s specific to Americans or if it’s just human nature, but I feel that most people enjoy the OPTION to exercise their freedoms as opposed to actually actively exercising their freedoms. (Edit: There are a lot of people in America who argue passionately for their view on gun laws and abortion. Most of those peoples’ lives probably wouldn’t change drastically if gun laws or abortion laws were changed, but everyone likes having the ability and the legal right to do what they want to do, just in case they someday feel like doing it. I digress, not trying to make this political at all.) Like as long as I have my license and a tank full of gas and the ability to drive somewhere, I’m happy. If my car vanished overnight or I lost my license somehow, that would be a big problem for me, because that freedom would be gone.

All this to say, I know exactly how you’re feeling. When I was 16, I imagined myself driving all over the place for fun, getting a tattoo on my 18th birthday, and trying cigarettes for the first time. I’ve only driven out of state once, I have no tattoos, and I tried cigarettes a year and a half after I turned 18 and I hated them. There are some interesting philosophical takes on what it means to be free and have freedom up above, and that’s definitely a big component of it. You CAN choose to be free, but I know it’s harder to do so when your freedoms are being legally limited. It sucks, but that’s life. You’ll be 18 before you know it and then you can take advantage of all the things that are being withheld from you right now

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