[quote]Doyle wrote:
Stength4life wrote:
fatcat wrote:
“don’t let your knees pass your toes”
I thought this was true
In case you are being serious, If you restrict the range of motion at the knee and ankle (by not bending them forward over your toes) you cannot reach correct depth without compensating by bending more at the hips (especially if your tall).
So you simply stransfer the stress from your knee to your lower back. I’d rather save my back, your also alot stronger with a more upright back (without PL gear).[/quote]
This goes back to whoever said theres multiple ways to do a squat, and everybody thinks their way is right. The rule to not let your knees pass your toes started off as a general rule of don’t let your knees go excessively forward.
To give people a visual reference they just said don’t let it past your toes, which is easier then don’t let your knees bend to ankle bend ratio go farther then 1.5x or whatever. Of course it began to be taken literally which doesn’t make sense considering people have different ratio’s in lengths of legs and feet.
As well as the differences in styles of squatting, your knees will have to go farther when doing a bb squat compared to a pl, and other styles.
Most of the so called bad advice is some minor recommendation taken to the extreme.
[quote]Doyle wrote:
Stength4life wrote:
fatcat wrote:
“don’t let your knees pass your toes”
I thought this was true
In case you are being serious, If you restrict the range of motion at the knee and ankle (by not bending them forward over your toes) you cannot reach correct depth without compensating by bending more at the hips (especially if your tall).
So you simply stransfer the stress from your knee to your lower back. I’d rather save my back, your also alot stronger with a more upright back (without PL gear).[/quote]
x2
The best I’ve ever had it explained to me is:
You and your buddy are the same height, and have the same length legs. You have 12" feet, he has 9". Now when you squat, he has three less inches than you do to work with.
[quote]SSC wrote:
From my old roommate: “You know, my professor told me today that drinking whey protein shakes doesn’t actually do anything for you.”[/quote]
Goddamn one of my friends gets on me for this all the time. She’s soon to be a nurse and in her nutrition classes she was told how protein powder was a scam and it didn’t reallly help you…we argued for a good hour or so one night. I think I would have accomplished more if I had just called her a cunt and kicked her out of my house.
I don’t understand how this misinformation spreads - most of her argument was around how “it all absorbs the same” and it “won’t stop you from getting fat”, and the reason that there are fat people who lift weights is because they drink protein shakes.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Most of the so called bad advice is some minor recommendation taken to the extreme.[/quote]
Right - or it’s something that “worked” for someone personally but might not work for everyone.
I also think people see patterns that don’t exist when it comes to training - there are so many variables that only with time can you really start to notice which things make your progress better or worse (I’m only starting to feel like I have any sort of intuition about it).
Like the whole “don’t have sex on leg day” thing…the guy probably had sex on leg day a couple times and then had a shitty workout…it had nothing to do with the sex probably but he convinced himself it did.
To a group of rowers who I was helping with their 1RM tests, seeing that most of them were wearing running shoes.
Me - “Everyone take off your shoes as you will get a more stable foundation”
Rower - "My mother, pediatrist, says that it’s bad for your feet
Me - “So you would prefer to squat on a bed then…”
Half of them take their shoes off.
Guy doing half squats with about 300lbs (not a light weight for him) with a knee wrap
Me - “Why don’t you squat below parrellal?”
Him - “Because I have injured my knee”
Most of the so called bad advice is some minor recommendation taken to the extreme.[/quote]
Yeah your right, I didnt mean that you cant squat without letting your knees beyond your toes tho if that was the impression I gave.
Often research articles are purposfully taken out of context by the media. They word the headline in the way that seems most contraversal or that will get the most attention. Then they only use small portions of the study which support their statement even if it is conflicting with the findings of the study when read in context.
The average person (even fitness or health proffessionals)
will then take it at face value without reading the references and then repeat the drivel to their clients.
[quote]oneforship wrote:
Someone once told me that if I keep lifting heavy weights over a long period of time with solid progression, then I’ll get bigger and stronger.
what a psycho![/quote]
What a tool, peddling that bullshit in the gym … …
Squats and milk. Worst advice I ever had.
The best being - don’t eat yellow snow. It never made me bigger and stronger, but at least i didn’t drink any piss.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
jayski wrote:
He told me that having sex on leg day would hinder my progress and not only would my workouts suffer but i’d end up with erectile problems later in life.
That is the best shit I have heard in a long time.
You couldn’t make up something that funny[/quote]
Every time I think about it, I still like think that he was joking.
[quote]Subliminal-Steve wrote:
my dad just always tells me not to push myself too hard, I say I’d rather he encouraged me to push myself harder but no, he tells me not to use as much weight[/quote]
I get that from my parents as well, they always tell me to not work so hard in the gym and not to push myself too much. I know they’re just doing what they think is right to prevent me hurting myself, but it does piss me off.
[quote]jayski wrote:
“don’t have sex on leg day”
[/quote]
I’ll have to agree with this one. After knocking out squats, lunges, stiff leg deadlifts and calf raises, I can’t use any inventive positions, she has to do all the work, and where’s the fun in that?
Two spring to mind for me:
“Chin-ups work the biceps more and pull-ups work the triceps more”
(A personal trainer at my gym teaching someone to deadlift) “Push through your toes, pull with your back, don’t bend your legs too much, don’t worry about your back rounding, it’ll strengthen it”
That last one I was a bit of a dick about, after the trainee had finished his deadlifting set, I told the trainer I was considering some personal training sessions and asked his name, when he told me I replied “thanks, now I’ll know who to avoid”.
(A personal trainer at my gym teaching someone to deadlift) “Push through your toes, pull with your back, don’t bend your legs too much, don’t worry about your back rounding, it’ll strengthen it”
That last one I was a bit of a dick about, after the trainee had finished his deadlifting set, I told the trainer I was considering some personal training sessions and asked his name, when he told me I replied “thanks, now I’ll know who to avoid”.[/quote]
[quote]BillO21 wrote:
AttackOfTheChris wrote:
I was recently told that lifting screws up your metabolism. lolz.
It WILL, it will make you burn more cal/day.
Who would want that?[/quote]
Hahahaha. Well he seemed convinced that it would make me fat. He also told some other younger guy that he didn’t need to lift weights, he would just fill out with age.
