RGIII Apparently Isn't Black Enough

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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You specifically left out where I said when did Barker ever make the statement. It looks like he just asked a question and everybody put a statement in his mouth. This is important because…

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Better to bring it up now then find out later we have another Tiger Woods who comes flat out and say I’m not black.
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Why would it matter that Woods doesn’t want to be labled as a demographic. Why is it a bad thing?[/quote] Who said not being labeled as black is a bad thing? That is your feeling by reading more into what is said.

What was looked at as bad was the fact that he made a statement that is obviously wrong. If he doesn’t want to be labelled as such fine with me.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I mean, why would he invite the lable “greatest black golfer of all time” when he can be “the greatest golfer of all time”?[/quote] This is making the obvious implication that a black golfer can’t be the greatest golfer of all time.[quote]countingbeans wrote:

The point being and why this is news is, people want to put others in a nice neat little box that meets expectations. The real world doesn’t work like that.

And the “white privlidge” nonsense is garbage, at least in the professional world, and honestly, if you aren’t paying, I don’t care what your opinion of me or anyone else is.[/quote]

If you want to go the ‘why does that matter’ route then nothing really matters at all. If you live in this real world that has more than just numbers, opinions are the foundation of capitalism. Marketing gives people $$$ to count. This show is purely an opinion based show, and more than 50% of the black viewership probably had the question in their minds. As Barker said I hear it in the barbershops.

Yes people put others in a box, and it works. Google has a million different boxes for people and advertise specifically to them. Just because people can fit in more then one box doesn’t mean it hurts to label them.

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Lol. I love all the, “you don’t know what it’s like to be black, but I’m going to tell you what it’s like to be white” hypocrisy in this thread.

Give me a break. There are some outright bigots in here.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Who said not being labeled as black is a bad thing?[/quote]

No one apparently, but that is what I though you were implying in your statement. I read your statement about Woods as disappointed in him. I was wrong I guess.

Correct.

Then why bring it up in the context you did?

Not at all. It is making the obvious implication that people should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. I’m not a huge golf fan, but I was under the impression he already was the greatest… Whether or not he is black should be moot at this point when it comes to his legacy.

I am not saying black people shouldn’t look up to him for inspriation or that anyone should ignore the fact he is black. But he should be seen as the greatest, who happens to be black. Sort of like the way history looks back on great boxers, they are great boxers who happen to be black, not black men who happen to be great boxers. And that is the point with RGIII. He wants to be a great QB that happens to be black. Dude on ESPN just can’t let that happen.

I guess my point being, ESPN isn’t the place to be focusing on skin color. Barbershop is the barbershop, whatever is said there is said. But to go on national TV and take away this kids right to choose how he is seen, by his actions. I mean I know, personally, an OLineman that is very very similar to RGIII, crew cut even, and not a damn word like this is spoken about him on ESPN.

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opinions are the foundation of capitalism. [/quote]

Right, and trust me, I don’t care what color your skin is, if you are good at what you do, I can find quite a few people who will pay you good money to do it for them.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Lol. I love all the, “you don’t know what it’s like to be black, but I’m going to tell you what it’s like to be white” hypocrisy in this thread.

Give me a break. There are some outright bigots in here.
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Didn’t you know? As white people, we are all the same.

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Update: Parker and several members of the smoking pile of shit that is First Take have been suspended for a month.

Also, this is Parker’s 3rd major instance of making embarrassing comments on air. He might not be back.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Racist? Aren’t they both black?

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LOL.

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Since that guy apologized to RG3 isn’t he a sellout too?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Who said not being labeled as black is a bad thing?[/quote]

No one apparently, but that is what I though you were implying in your statement. I read your statement about Woods as disappointed in him. I was wrong I guess.

Correct.

Then why bring it up in the context you did?

Not at all. It is making the obvious implication that people should be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. I’m not a huge golf fan, but I was under the impression he already was the greatest… Whether or not he is black should be moot at this point when it comes to his legacy.[/quote]

It was moot until HE stated he wasn’t black. He was the greatest, and more black people noticed golf because the greatest was black. BUT THEY did not look at him as the greatest black golfer of all time.

I’m just trying to get you to see that making an anti statement can sometimes be just as damning as making the statement itself. As well as avoiding the obvious can hurt as much as much as being negative. You can say the sun is bad for you and stay inside all your life, you can ignore it stare at it and destroy your eyes, or you can acknowledge it put some shades on and go about your life. I feel RG3 handled it much better than his father and ESPN. This was ESPN’s chance to make headway in race relations in sports. So many things are swept under the rug.

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I am not saying black people shouldn’t look up to him for inspriation or that anyone should ignore the fact he is black. But he should be seen as the greatest, who happens to be black. Sort of like the way history looks back on great boxers, they are great boxers who happen to be black, not black men who happen to be great boxers. And that is the point with RGIII. He wants to be a great QB that happens to be black. Dude on ESPN just can’t let that happen.

I guess my point being, ESPN isn’t the place to be focusing on skin color. Barbershop is the barbershop, whatever is said there is said. But to go on national TV and take away this kids right to choose how he is seen, by his actions. I mean I know, personally, an OLineman that is very very similar to RGIII, crew cut even, and not a damn word like this is spoken about him on ESPN.

I believe you, but that is you. I just don’t think America as a country can think like that until they acknowledge and accept differences. Sports, IQ and maybe work ethic are the most stereotyped entities in the U.S. Barker’s question opened the door for some thoughtful conversation.

I’m must more offended by the fact that Skip Bayless can group black QB’s as one style that sucks, and Stephen A. Smith dropping N-Bombs, then Barker asking “IS” he really black?

I guess your saying this should be on CNN or PBS. That could be the case but sports is where racism is most prevalent.