Alright so I’m starting to get gyno. I’ll post what I’m currently doing and then my questions
Test e 500mg
Tren ace 450mg
Started gyno nuking on Tuesday, it’s Saturday now.
.25mg research prami 12.5 aromasin
.25mgnresearch prami 12.5 aromasin
.5mg research prami 12.5 aromasin 10mg nolva
.6mg research prami 25 aromasin 20mg nolva
Questions:
-What should I look for in results? My nipples are extremely sensitive still.
-How high can I take the prami dose?
-When should I see results?
-Should I stop or turn down the nolva dose?
Note:I’m nuking everything (prolactin, estrogen) because that has to garner some results.
I forgot to post earlier in the week I woke up with my nipples very much smaller than what they were previously, a result I was very pleased to see. However later in the day they reverted and I have not gotten that result since…
[quote]GodspowerSalami wrote:
Okay, does anyone else have any opinions or answers?[/quote]
i’ve been reading about this lately quite a bit, and am thinking that people are focused on prolactin too much… i believe Bill Roberts actually addressed that on this message board, and mentioned the lack of evidence that tren/deca actually raise prolactin.
tren and deca might actually be activating the progesterone receptor in the breast tissue. i believe this is why the old timers stacked tended to stack this with DHT-derived AAS, because they wouldn’t cause any additional aromatization, not to mention the synergistic benefits.
Thank you for the resource cyco. But prami lowers progesterone I thought, or at least I was told by multiple sources. I cannot get a hold of caber, I hear street price for a gram of raws for it is 3k. I’ve been on tren for 4 weeks, this pin tonight is going to kick off week 5, and 8 on the test. This is interesting here though; only one nipple has the lump under it, but they’re both starting to sag . Should I squeeze it to see if milk comes out? What if I dropped the tren dose by 150mg?
[quote]GodspowerSalami wrote:
Thank you for the resource cyco. But prami lowers progesterone I thought, or at least I was told by multiple sources. I cannot get a hold of caber, I hear street price for a gram of raws for it is 3k. I’ve been on tren for 4 weeks, this pin tonight is going to kick off week 5, and 8 on the test. This is interesting here though; only one nipple has the lump under it, but they’re both starting to sag . Should I squeeze it to see if milk comes out? What if I dropped the tren dose by 150mg?[/quote]
prami/caber/etc lowers prolactin.
if you think your prolactin is high, get it checked out…
not to go off on a rant here, but you’re asking anonymous people with no vested interest in your success a question about your health.
again, i think it’s worth noting that your gyno may or may not be induced by prolactin. until you know what your levels are, you can either keeping doing what you’re doing, and hope it works, or actually get checked out and find out. it’s also worth noting, that prolactin can be increased simply by an increase in estrogen.
[quote]GodspowerSalami wrote:
Thank you for the resource cyco. But prami lowers progesterone I thought, or at least I was told by multiple sources. I cannot get a hold of caber, I hear street price for a gram of raws for it is 3k. I’ve been on tren for 4 weeks, this pin tonight is going to kick off week 5, and 8 on the test. This is interesting here though; only one nipple has the lump under it, but they’re both starting to sag . Should I squeeze it to see if milk comes out? What if I dropped the tren dose by 150mg?[/quote]
prami/caber/etc lowers prolactin.
if you think your prolactin is high, get it checked out…
not to go off on a rant here, but you’re asking anonymous people with no vested interest in your success a question about your health.
again, i think it’s worth noting that your gyno may or may not be induced by prolactin. until you know what your levels are, you can either keeping doing what you’re doing, and hope it works, or actually get checked out and find out. it’s also worth noting, that prolactin can be increased simply by an increase in estrogen. and, other sources have noted that progestins might simply increase the responsiveness to prolactin, but not the level itself.
Alright, thanks for the studies. I’m surprised those are even out there. I’ll keep doing what I’m doing, which is:
25mg Asin ed
20mg nolva ed
.5mg prami ed
When the letro gets here I’ll add that on as well.
Thanks again guys, if it clears up soon enough so as not to revive a dead thread I’ll say so.
[quote]GodspowerSalami wrote:
Okay, does anyone else have any opinions or answers?[/quote]
i’ve been reading about this lately quite a bit, and am thinking that people are focused on prolactin too much… i believe Bill Roberts actually addressed that on this message board, and mentioned the lack of evidence that tren/deca actually raise prolactin.
tren and deca might actually be activating the progesterone receptor in the breast tissue. i believe this is why the old timers stacked tended to stack this with DHT-derived AAS, because they wouldn’t cause any additional aromatization, not to mention the synergistic benefits.
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FWIW, here are some of the threads here i alluded to earlier:
Well , I got the letro two days ago. I took 1.5mg and then last night 2.5mg along with 1g prami, 12.5mg aromasin and. 20mg nolvadex. The lump is still there and my nipples are usually still large and puffy, but my pec shape has been good and unsagging. My nipples are still EXTREMELY sore however and this is worrying me. Could I not be waiting long enough? What do you guys think?
Edit: upon closer inspection the lump in the right nipple has shrunken considerably. However, the nipples themselves are still non circular and larger than when oceans on gear, and extremely sensitive, the right (the only nipple to get the lump) much more than the left.