Revenge Impeachment?

Who knows?

I never aim to BE right. My intention is always to GET it right. I take that from Colin Cowherd, lol.

I’m not going to be obtuse to proof.

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That’s why I predict you won’t be a progressive for a whole lot longer, but your upcoming political awakening is a subject for a future thread that reflects on the past as you understand it in the present.

Someone should put that on Joe Biden’s teleprompter and see what comes out the other side.

Illegitimate can have varying connotations. It’s one thing to say Trump benefited from fake news pushed by Russia and another to say the voting was rigged.

They are the minority and they are childish. The problem is people caring about what they are told they should care about. If people stopped to think about what really matters to them, they would see we all have a lot more in common than the news, youtube, twitter, etc., would have us believe. Americans are like the old woman holding a ham complaining about not having any bread.

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That’s an interesting thing to say. We’re around the same age right? I’m 38.

I live in Texas. Ive been a small business owner for a decade, and prior to that son of a small business owner. Im well educated, and smart (not the same thing). Ive been invested in politics forever. And I think I’ve always been pretty intellectually honest. What’s going to push me the other direction?

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The ā€˜progressive’ party going so progressive that they come out the other side as regressive. That, or your political leanings aligning moreso with Republicans/Conservatives than what the current state of the left is.

Modern republicans would have been called democrats 20 years ago

Sorry, i know you didn’t ask this of me

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Elon Musk made an illustration of his place on the political spectrum sometime in the past and today. He didn’t move at all, but the spectrum moved from Musk being a moderate Liberal in the past to becoming a moderate Conservative today.

And he says his political views haven’t changed.

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We are. I’m 42.

Lies and bad outcomes.

I began to realize I wasn’t a progressive once I realized that most of the policy positions and even the rhetoric/sloganeering was propped up by lies of some sort. I realize that’s a very broad statement and I’d be happy to play a game of ā€œshow me the Democrat policy and let me show you the lieā€ in another thread, if you want to dive down that rabbit hole.

I solidified my position as a conservative by gaining a better understanding of history and by reading the thoughts of people much smarter than I am. I always recommend Thomas Sowell as a good starting point to understand a mainstream conservative perspective who can tackle complex issues in clear terms. In short, I’m far more concerned with outcomes than intentions. Good intentions do not excuse bad policy outcomes.

If reading sociocultural commentary books by economists is not your cup of tea, you can just look at the very recent case of Venezuela. I was a true believer progressive when Chavez was delivering on many of his promises, directing funds to places that had never had funding and checking so many progressive boxes that progressives in the USA said we needed checked, and mostly still do. There was great fanfare and feelings of vindication. Our guy won, and he was getting it done.

Until he wasn’t, and a few decades later, a once-great nation is now in total shambles. Dog is on the menu.

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You’re joking. It was a doomed experiment for two reasons: communism doesn’t fail because of a lack of resources and, it was South America.

I’m not here to debate the definition of this word or that with you today. In the early 00’s Chavez had many prominent supporters among American democrats and progressives before it all went to hell. The policy overlap is tremendous.

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For another progressive trainwreck example, Jim Jones was a well regarded progressive activist in the 1960’s and 1970’s. You could accurately call him a BLM SJW, much of the rhetoric is similar.

Of course he was a hardcore communist, but that didn’t stop him from being supported by California governor Jerry Brown, First Lady Rosalyn Carter and many other prominent Democrats. He was obviously a fellow traveler with the right ideas.

Then, like all progressive social experiments throughout history, it ended in tragedy and all of the well to do Democrats had to distance themselves from him.

Just in case anyone cares and only reads ā€œlatest postsā€, so you might have missed the Elon Musk drawing of his political position (I had added to my post from yesterday)

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I think both sides have moved apart. Some of the left has gone woke, some of the right has gone qanon. Both of those groups sway their side. On the left we have virtue signaling, and some BS too (trans women in sports stuff that people in general know is rubish), and on the right we have Jewish space lasers, and Q stuff. It’s sad that these things have made it to ā€œalmost mainstreamā€ by the influence of the fringes.

What? I’m essentially agreeing with you. Look at BLM: communists are not good with money. In theory, communists should be from the working class but those who call themselves communists or marxists or whatever, are in academia or politics or are professional activists. In other words, they never had real jobs and spend other people’s money accordingly.

And women’s bathrooms, both of which have actually mattered in regards to policies.

Neither of which has played any role in any policy of which I’m aware.
Here is the Jewish space laser Tweet(note that it was years prior to her taking Office):

You do know people who run for office that push these narratives would, if elected, play roles in policy. This is how pieces of garbage like Cawthorn, someone who makes AOC look good, get elected.

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Sure. That’s different from the narratives themselves playing a role in policy.

Hell, in my mind, she had him beat just by being female, but to each his own. I agree he’s a piece of garbage, but there are about 530(give or take a couple) just like him in Congress.

Well, they at least are smart enough to not make it obvious.