[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Then it is the man’s fault. He made the decision to change.[/quote]
Men were dumb for listening, yes. But women are to take part of the blame for telling men to act that way. From a young age, no less.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Then it is the man’s fault. He made the decision to change.
Men were dumb for listening, yes. But women are to take part of the blame for telling men to act that way. From a young age, no less.[/quote]
So where were the older male role models?
Let’s bring the media into this though. The media is the one that perpetuated the change. You men followed along, you guys caved.
I don’t really know any women who date feminine guys, and I only know a couple of girly-guys.
Maybe it is an age thing. It just isn’t my generation that grew up with girly guys.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
AccipiterQ wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
cyph31 wrote:
the feminization of society
ie. the ideal way for men to act are like women
fuck that shit
Again why do you care? Sounds like you’re just mad that there aren’t any big beefy guys for you to ogle.
Why DON’T you care? Society does seem to be shifting as anything historically/traditionally masculine is now seen as a negative.
The only people who wouldn’t care are those who don’t have any of those traits to begin with.[/quote]
But why do you CARE? Do you go to the gym to impress other people? If not, live and let live. The way I see it the more metrosexual type guys that are out there, the less competition there is for me. Because no matter how much a girl may SAY she likes some scrawny little thing, you know that she’d commit manslaughter for a guy that can pick her up by the ass with one arm and rip her shirt off with the other.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
Then it is the man’s fault. He made the decision to change.
Men were dumb for listening, yes. But women are to take part of the blame for telling men to act that way. From a young age, no less.
So where were the older male role models?
Let’s bring the media into this though. The media is the one that perpetuated the change. You men followed along, you guys caved.
I don’t really know any women who date feminine guys, and I only know a couple of girly-guys.
Maybe it is an age thing. It just isn’t my generation that grew up with girly guys.
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I completely agree. I don’t know ANY girl that says they want a feminine type guy. So again, I ask why do any of the guys here care what the other swinging dicks in their town are doing?
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
I completely agree. I don’t know ANY girl that says they want a feminine type guy. So again, I ask why do any of the guys here care what the other swinging dicks in their town are doing?[/quote]
I know plenty who say that. And they’re all dating big macho type guys.
But you’re question about why people care is a fair one I suppose.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
cyph31 wrote:
the feminization of society
ie. the ideal way for men to act are like women
fuck that shit
Again why do you care? Sounds like you’re just mad that there aren’t any big beefy guys for you to ogle. [/quote]
Why do you see it that way? Why cant it be that I am one who would fall into that category and are adamantly against it if even for myself…
As for big beefy guys to ogle; I like looking in the mirror. Even if it is just me looking at me these days, I’m not mad at all.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
cyph31 wrote:
the feminization of society
ie. the ideal way for men to act are like women
fuck that shit
Again why do you care? Sounds like you’re just mad that there aren’t any big beefy guys for you to ogle. [/quote]
why do i care ? because they want me to act like a woman ?
[quote] cosmo article
�?� AVOID learning the other man’s name for as long as possible and then never, ever use it (a humorous nickname, preferably abusive, may be permitted after many years of acquaintance, or when playing in the same sports team).
[/quote]
I ate a tuna sandwich, on my first day. So, Andy started calling me Big Tuna. …I don’t think any of them actually know my real name.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
AccipiterQ wrote:
BluePfaltz wrote:
cyph31 wrote:
the feminization of society
ie. the ideal way for men to act are like women
fuck that shit
Again why do you care? Sounds like you’re just mad that there aren’t any big beefy guys for you to ogle.
Why DON’T you care? Society does seem to be shifting as anything historically/traditionally masculine is now seen as a negative.
The only people who wouldn’t care are those who don’t have any of those traits to begin with.
But why do you CARE? Do you go to the gym to impress other people? If not, live and let live. The way I see it the more metrosexual type guys that are out there, the less competition there is for me. Because no matter how much a girl may SAY she likes some scrawny little thing, you know that she’d commit manslaughter for a guy that can pick her up by the ass with one arm and rip her shirt off with the other. [/quote]
I care because I don’t give a shit about what someone looks like in the gym. I care because this type of thinking overflows into politics and even science. There is no reason at all for men over the age of 35 to have a harder time recently getting hormone replacement therapy. Yet, here we are in 2008 with a literal “war on testosterone” going on in politics and the media making it harder and harder for men to go to a doctor and even seek treatment if they need/want it.
That means the real question is why you do NOT care.
This has jack shit to do with what some individual is wearing and everything to do with how society as a whole is leaning.
You seem to be thinking on a much smaller scale. Maybe you should upgrade.
[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
cosmo article
�?� AVOID learning the other man’s name for as long as possible and then never, ever use it (a humorous nickname, preferably abusive, may be permitted after many years of acquaintance, or when playing in the same sports team).
I ate a tuna sandwich, on my first day. So, Andy started calling me Big Tuna. …I don’t think any of them actually know my real name.[/quote]
FlavaDave, every time I see your avatar my cremaster fires. For the love of Zarathustra please change it, ok?
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Makavali wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
That isn’t true. No one can MAKE you be a way you don’t want to be. If men changed, they LET others TELL them who to be and those men fell in line like sheep and did it.
You sure give us women a lot of power. Maybe a woman could make you a girly-boy if you believe what you are saying.
Men do what it takes to get laid. Many were stupid and started acting like they had no penis because that’s what they were told would work. Women got confused by this and were all “wtf?” and thus came about the birth of the ubersexual. Who still doesn’t get laid.
Apparently, I’m a metrosexual because I wear hair gel, bathe everyday and can wear clothes, so I won’t start bashing metros.
Men don’t think with their brains, they think with their head.
Then it is the man’s fault. He made the decision to change.
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BS. Women do hold some of the blame, just like many men hold the blame for why so many clearly obese women are walking around lately thinking they really look sexy in their baby t’s cut off above the navel with their rolls of Pillsbury influenced muffin tops pouring over the edges of their low cut jeans.
If enough men weren’t ready to pretty much screw anything that moved (speaking is optional) then less women would think this way.
The same goes for why an entire generation was under the impression that they had to look and act like some “man-woman” hybrid just to get laid. If it weren’t for women (who most guys over the age of 25 know don’t really know what they want…or at least know they want what they can’t have) than this would not have happened on such a grand scale. Do you really think guys are walking around spending more on hair products than women for no reason?
In the end, the pendulum will swing back hard in the other direction as it always does. It may take another 5-10 years, but there is no doubt that women are in part to blame for why men across the country are cutting off their balls just so they can have sex with something breathing and female.
Now that half of the population is “less than a man”, you all have the balls to claim you had NOTHING to do with it?
I gotta say, though. If a lot of men need hormonal therapy before 60, isn’t that a problem in itself?
[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
cosmo article
�?� AVOID learning the other man’s name for as long as possible and then never, ever use it (a humorous nickname, preferably abusive, may be permitted after many years of acquaintance, or when playing in the same sports team).
I ate a tuna sandwich, on my first day. So, Andy started calling me Big Tuna. …I don’t think any of them actually know my real name.[/quote]
What is that line from? I heard it just the other day and, for the life of me, can’t remember what it is from.
It’s from The Office.
[quote]Majin wrote:
I gotta say, though. If a lot of men need hormonal therapy before 60, isn’t that a problem in itself?[/quote]
of course they do when they are bombarded by messages like these every day from everywhere:
“weightlifting is bad for you”
“fat is bad for you”
“cholesterol is bad for you”
“shave off all your body hair”
“never eat meat”
“eat lots of soy, it’s good for you”
and then we wonder why your average man these days has the testosterone level of a 5 year old girl
[quote]cyph31 wrote:
Majin wrote:
I gotta say, though. If a lot of men need hormonal therapy before 60, isn’t that a problem in itself?
of course they do when they are bombarded by messages like these every day from everywhere:
“weightlifting is bad for you”
“fat is bad for you”
“cholesterol is bad for you”
“shave off all your body hair”
“never eat meat”
“eat lots of soy, it’s good for you”
and then we wonder why your average man these days has the testosterone level of a 5 year old girl[/quote]
I think Majin was going more along medical lines, although, I concur with the above list. I hear some of those little pieces of horseshit all the time.
I think the key to it is recognizing it for the load of B.S. that it is, and doing our thing anyway, after all, I rather enjoy it when a significant portion of the people I meet think I am a “freak” or “cave man.”
As far as caring what other people think or do, I really don’t. It would however, be nice to get bombarded with anti-man-law a little bit less frequently.
One thing I completely disagree with the acticle about are the cars. Chevy is definately the way to go, but hell, this hardly matters in the grand scheme of things. In the end, to each his own and live and let the slack-jawed vegans exist. They are reletively easy to tune out, and how much harm can they do?
[quote]cyph31 wrote:
Majin wrote:
I gotta say, though. If a lot of men need hormonal therapy before 60, isn’t that a problem in itself?
of course they do when they are bombarded by messages like these every day from everywhere:
“weightlifting is bad for you”
“fat is bad for you”
“cholesterol is bad for you”
“shave off all your body hair”
“never eat meat”
“eat lots of soy, it’s good for you”
and then we wonder why your average man these days has the testosterone level of a 5 year old girl[/quote]
ugh…the testosterone problem is a complex one and has less to do with what you’ve posted and more to do with exposure to chemicals and radiation…There’s actually an article on this very site that debunks soy’s negative reputation…the upshot is that you’d basically have to eat a dumptruck full of soy everyday to see even a slight decline in T.
And who’s getting bombarded by messages to shave off their body hair, or to never eat meat, or that weight lifting is bad for you? I mean heck pro BBers shave off their body hair…does that make them metro?
I can’t say I’ve ever felt pressure to shave my chest / stomache, or to not eat meat. If anything vegetarianism is becoming more widely accepted not due to a backlash against ‘real men’ but because of people’s (rightful) anxiety over what’s being put into the beef they’re eating.
Personally I don’t eat red meat more than once a month, not because of ‘societal pressure’ but because I’m worried about wtf is going into the cattle in this country, and because using hormones on poultry is highly restricted.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I care because I don’t give a shit about what someone looks like in the gym. I care because this type of thinking overflows into politics and even science. There is no reason at all for men over the age of 35 to have a harder time recently getting hormone replacement therapy.
Yet, here we are in 2008 with a literal “war on testosterone” going on in politics and the media making it harder and harder for men to go to a doctor and even seek treatment if they need/want it.
That means the real question is why you do NOT care.
This has jack shit to do with what some individual is wearing and everything to do with how society as a whole is leaning.
You seem to be thinking on a much smaller scale. Maybe you should upgrade.
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The hormonal replacement debate doesn’t have much to do with metrosexuals…etc. That’s a passing fad. After that’s over I guarantee you that the debate about that will still be raging on. I’m not sure what you mean by it effects politics…I really think you guys are over-reacting to a broad cultural fad that’s going to pass.
In the meantime, enjoy the fact that even if you see signs in the media that being strong and large is ‘out’ right now, that most women still are going to favor you over some scrawny emo retard.
Maybe it’s different here on the East coast, I don’t know where the other posters in this thread are from, but I’m not seeing ANYTHING that you guys are talking about, and I’m looking for things like this fairly regularly.
Could only read 1/2 the article cause it was obviously written by a woman. If I wanted to know how to change a tampon she could give me advice. If I want to know tips on how to be a man I’ll just go watch Sean Connery James Bond movies.
For further research see Dave Chappelle’s standup about women giving 100 tips on how to please your man…turns out there are only 4.
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
For further research see Dave Chappelle’s standup about women giving 100 tips on how to please your man…turns out there are only 4.[/quote]
- Suck his dick
- Play with his balls
- Fix him a sandwich
- And don’t talk so much
Funny guy!
Dave Chappelle is my hero.