[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The Unions became ineffective after the Mafia died .[/quote]
Priceless, just priceless.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
ZEB wrote:
You are very welcome. If you ever want another Presidential history lesson on Ronald Wilson Reagan (the greatest modern day President) just let me know.
ZEBU 
You still continue to ignore facts it is impossible that Reagan created 20,000,000 jobs .[/quote]
You’re a riot, but most entertaining when you denying the facts that I post from sources like the US Treasury, by claiming that I ignore facts. Do you see the irony? I post facts, and then you say (without posting facts) that I am ignoring the facts.
No really, it doesn’t get any better than that - -Thank you!
[quote]Please continue to espouse your myths . I will continue to tell the truth
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(nods head) Okay Pitskiy, I’ll continue to post the best information available from the US Treasury Department and you keep saying that they’re myths. That is the sort of thinking that can only harm you in the long run - You’re almost like a cranky old man, “dag nabit I don’t care what you say Reagan was no good dam it- Now get the hell off my lawn.”
Ha ha, you have no facts and are unale to refute the ones I post, yet you continue to say I’m wrong. Fingers in ears “Nu Uh.”
I do wonder where all of these people would be talking crazy if it were not for the Internet. I suppose it would be to their family members, close friends and others who hadto listen to them.
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You do as you like , I said I do not know about whether there was a increase in revenue or not . That is a new thread that I will not argue , But I maintain Reagan was the worst President of all times
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The Unions became ineffective after the Mafia died .[/quote]
Priceless, just priceless.
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Thank you thank you very much
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Just do the math
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Please correct me if my math sucks as much as your memory Unemployment is at 10% and that number is 8.4 mil. so there must be 84 million jobs in America and Reagan created 25% of them , That is fucking amazing.
You know Zeb if Obama’s recession is in fact worst then the one Reagan inherited then if it recovers we will be able to say Obama created 40,000,000 jobs
Does anyone know how many jobs Roosevelt created ? it has to be billions
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I’ve repeatedly said that the jobs were created from the point Carter left office to the time Reagan hit his 7th year as President. Sure some of those were lost during Carter and regained during Reagan. that’s what you call going from a President who is clueless to one who has a good understanding of the private sector
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Carter was not clueless the worst thing he did was take the Shaw out of power , the best thing he did was approach the oil shortage , which Reagan undid pronto. Just think how far we would have been down the road to energy independence .
Regan did not have a good understanding of the Private sector , He was just anti union ,
Had Reagan had a good understanding of the private sector he would not have thrown the baby out with the bath water, Meaning he would have kept the Steel industry intact and forced it to compete . So he threw away all the jobs the tax revenue that the employees and the companies paid. And he put all the towns on welfare . That is true Business Savy :)[/quote]
I want to know what you mean by “forcing the steel industry to compete”. Be very specific.[/quote]
Gradually opening the door to steel imports, not swinging them open so the price of steel collapse , fuck you be specific what you want me to answer [/quote]
So you’d rather the industry died a slow death?
There was absolutely no way of saving the steel industry. The unions killed it.
I don’t care about education, per se, but NO SKILLED workers are not worth the amount UNIONS force the employers to pay. [/quote]
I do not believed it would have died , it may have got pruned but not decimated, Your opinion on the worth of labor is just that (YOUR OPINION)
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If that were the case, unions wouldn’t need to exist to artificially inflate the member’s wages. People could get paid just as much through regular free market competition. This doesn’t happen, scab employees are paid much lower than union workers. It isn’t my opinion, it’s a fact.
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I agree ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You do as you like , I said I do not know about whether there was a increase in revenue or not . That is a new thread that I will not argue , But I maintain Reagan was the worst President of all times
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You’ve repeated that accusation several times, but as yet have been unable to offer any solid evidence to back it up. On the other hand, I have given you ample proof that Ronald Wilson Reagan was the best modern day President. When you read this evidence all you can say is- I hate him, he’s the worst- It might be time to take a quick look at the cold hard reality of the situation. While you hate him, maybe because he was anti-union, he was certainly not the worst President. Even though you promised Aunt Betty that you would hate him for life, along with the rest of your relatives. I get it, I get it.
I can see Pit pounding on the door of the Treasury Department, “Lies, lies I tell you.”
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I can see Pit pounding on the door of the Treasury Department, “Lies, lies I tell you.”
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To be fair I can see us both standing right next to him, though for other reasons.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Just do the math
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Please correct me if my math sucks as much as your memory Unemployment is at 10% and that number is 8.4 mil. so there must be 84 million jobs in America and Reagan created 25% of them , That is fucking amazing.
You know Zeb if Obama’s recession is in fact worst then the one Reagan inherited then if it recovers we will be able to say Obama created 40,000,000 jobs
Does anyone know how many jobs Roosevelt created ? it has to be billions
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I’ve repeatedly said that the jobs were created from the point Carter left office to the time Reagan hit his 7th year as President. Sure some of those were lost during Carter and regained during Reagan. that’s what you call going from a President who is clueless to one who has a good understanding of the private sector
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Carter was not clueless the worst thing he did was take the Shaw out of power , the best thing he did was approach the oil shortage , which Reagan undid pronto. Just think how far we would have been down the road to energy independence .
Regan did not have a good understanding of the Private sector , He was just anti union ,
Had Reagan had a good understanding of the private sector he would not have thrown the baby out with the bath water, Meaning he would have kept the Steel industry intact and forced it to compete . So he threw away all the jobs the tax revenue that the employees and the companies paid. And he put all the towns on welfare . That is true Business Savy :)[/quote]
I want to know what you mean by “forcing the steel industry to compete”. Be very specific.[/quote]
Gradually opening the door to steel imports, not swinging them open so the price of steel collapse , fuck you be specific what you want me to answer [/quote]
So you’d rather the industry died a slow death?
There was absolutely no way of saving the steel industry. The unions killed it.
I don’t care about education, per se, but NO SKILLED workers are not worth the amount UNIONS force the employers to pay. [/quote]
I do not believed it would have died , it may have got pruned but not decimated, Your opinion on the worth of labor is just that (YOUR OPINION)
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If that were the case, unions wouldn’t need to exist to artificially inflate the member’s wages. People could get paid just as much through regular free market competition. This doesn’t happen, scab employees are paid much lower than union workers. It isn’t my opinion, it’s a fact.
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I agree ?[/quote]
If you agree with my post about unions, I really don’t see how you can disagree about the unions killing the steel industry.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Just do the math
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Please correct me if my math sucks as much as your memory Unemployment is at 10% and that number is 8.4 mil. so there must be 84 million jobs in America and Reagan created 25% of them , That is fucking amazing.
You know Zeb if Obama’s recession is in fact worst then the one Reagan inherited then if it recovers we will be able to say Obama created 40,000,000 jobs
Does anyone know how many jobs Roosevelt created ? it has to be billions
[/quote]
I’ve repeatedly said that the jobs were created from the point Carter left office to the time Reagan hit his 7th year as President. Sure some of those were lost during Carter and regained during Reagan. that’s what you call going from a President who is clueless to one who has a good understanding of the private sector
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Carter was not clueless the worst thing he did was take the Shaw out of power , the best thing he did was approach the oil shortage , which Reagan undid pronto. Just think how far we would have been down the road to energy independence .
Regan did not have a good understanding of the Private sector , He was just anti union ,
Had Reagan had a good understanding of the private sector he would not have thrown the baby out with the bath water, Meaning he would have kept the Steel industry intact and forced it to compete . So he threw away all the jobs the tax revenue that the employees and the companies paid. And he put all the towns on welfare . That is true Business Savy :)[/quote]
I want to know what you mean by “forcing the steel industry to compete”. Be very specific.[/quote]
Gradually opening the door to steel imports, not swinging them open so the price of steel collapse , fuck you be specific what you want me to answer [/quote]
So you’d rather the industry died a slow death?
There was absolutely no way of saving the steel industry. The unions killed it.
I don’t care about education, per se, but NO SKILLED workers are not worth the amount UNIONS force the employers to pay. [/quote]
I do not believed it would have died , it may have got pruned but not decimated, Your opinion on the worth of labor is just that (YOUR OPINION)
[/quote]
If that were the case, unions wouldn’t need to exist to artificially inflate the member’s wages. People could get paid just as much through regular free market competition. This doesn’t happen, scab employees are paid much lower than union workers. It isn’t my opinion, it’s a fact.
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I agree ?[/quote]
If you agree with my post about unions, I really don’t see how you can disagree about the unions killing the steel industry.
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That is because you have a narrow mind
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You do as you like , I said I do not know about whether there was a increase in revenue or not . That is a new thread that I will not argue , But I maintain Reagan was the worst President of all times
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You’ve repeated that accusation several times, but as yet have been unable to offer any solid evidence to back it up. On the other hand, I have given you ample proof that Ronald Wilson Reagan was the best modern day President. When you read this evidence all you can say is- I hate him, he’s the worst- It might be time to take a quick look at the cold hard reality of the situation. While you hate him, maybe because he was anti-union, he was certainly not the worst President. Even though you promised Aunt Betty that you would hate him for life, along with the rest of your relatives. I get it, I get it.
I can see Pit pounding on the door of the Treasury Department, “Lies, lies I tell you.”
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you are arguing with your self
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
you are arguing with your self :)[/quote]
Just keep Reagan out of your baseless rants from now and and we’ll get along great.
Do you get it? Do you get it?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
you are arguing with your self :)[/quote]
Just keep Reagan out of your baseless rants from now and and we’ll get along great.
Do you get it? Do you get it?[/quote]
I have to question your maturity ?I believe Reagan sucks donkey dick and I can live with the fact you think he is Jesus’s Son , but can not fathom some one may disagree with you.
I do not care if we get along or not , it is no skin off my ass.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
you are arguing with your self :)[/quote]
Just keep Reagan out of your baseless rants from now and and we’ll get along great.
Do you get it? Do you get it?[/quote]
I have to question your maturity ?I believe Reagan sucks donkey dick and I can live with the fact you think he is Jesus’s Son , but can not fathom some one may disagree with you.
I do not care if we get along or not , it is no skin off my ass.
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I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me. All I ever asked for is some evidence to back up your claim. You’ve been up and down these threads trashing Reagan as if you had some sort of holy grail guiding your path. Your posts rarely have any more than your limited personal opinion in them. I tried to do you a favor by pointing out some facts. Each time I have done that you’ve tried to counter my facts with more emotional rants. Like the one above, “Reagan sucks donkey dick.” And you then have the audacity to call me immature. But that is keeping line with what you’ve done each and every time I’ve posted information from credible sources (US Treasury for example). When I posted facts you go on an emotional tirade and accuse me of not having facts. And so it goes once again. You act like a kid getting ready to enter the 8th grade (donkey balls? Really.) And then accuse me of being immature.
You were obviously raised in a union household and brainwashed at an early age. Unfortunately when you grew and it came time to think for yourself, you didn’t! You continued to spout the lies that your parents told you when you were a kid.
Why do I care? I guess that after reading your ignorant statements time and again it was just time to point out your many errors. Sort of like listening to your crazy uncle repeatedly tell you what’s wrong with the country and he’s not within a country mile of being correct. Enough is enough Uncle Crazy, shut the hell up.
I know you won’t shut up as no one can actually make you, (It’s a message board and how it works is as predictable as you are) and you’re too blind (with hate?) to see exactly how dumb you look with your constant emotional tirades and Reagan bashing. But as I said before, you’re going to have to start backing up your nonsense because I’m sick of your pathetic half witted emotional arguments.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Why do I care? I guess that after reading your ignorant statements time and again it was just time to point out your many errors. Sort of like listening to your crazy uncle repeatedly tell you what’s wrong with the country and he’s not within a country mile of being correct. Enough is enough Uncle Crazy, shut the hell up.
I know you won’t shut up as no one can actually make you, (It’s a message board and how it works is as predictable as you are) and you’re too blind (with hate?) to see exactly how dumb you look with your constant emotional tirades and Reagan bashing. But as I said before, you’re going to have to start backing up your nonsense because I’m sick of your pathetic half witted emotional arguments.
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I like you when you are rational . most of the time you are so steeped in Reagan dogma you are hard to communicate with .
It is not me that is half witted and emotional , it is you . I have stated me point , very forward and you demagogue everything ,
I make errors .
I will not shut up , i witnessed a horrendous act by the PRESIDENT that is now being portraid as good politics . It was a terrible decision on Reagans part and some one needs to hold him accountable
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Why do I care? I guess that after reading your ignorant statements time and again it was just time to point out your many errors. Sort of like listening to your crazy uncle repeatedly tell you what’s wrong with the country and he’s not within a country mile of being correct. Enough is enough Uncle Crazy, shut the hell up.
I know you won’t shut up as no one can actually make you, (It’s a message board and how it works is as predictable as you are) and you’re too blind (with hate?) to see exactly how dumb you look with your constant emotional tirades and Reagan bashing. But as I said before, you’re going to have to start backing up your nonsense because I’m sick of your pathetic half witted emotional arguments.
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I like you when you are rational . most of the time you are so steeped in Reagan dogma you are hard to communicate with .
It is not me that is half witted and emotional , it is you . I have stated me point , very forward and you demagogue everything ,
I make errors .
I will not shut up , i witnessed a horrendous act by the PRESIDENT that is now being portraid as good politics . It was a terrible decision on Reagans part and some one needs to hold him accountable [/quote]
Just as I predicted, you’re back with yet another post and still nothing to say.
I get it, I get it.
(He’s holding a deceased former President accountable by posting on a bodybuilding forum…shh it’s going to get even better)
[quote]molnes wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Presidents don’t unilaterally control deficits and debt.
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Obviously not, but the way they choose to run the country does affect the economy. Historically democratic presidents have been better for the economy than republicans.[/quote]
So you don’t remember the “Laffer Curve”
or the 300 boat Navy…
Or buying the votes of the Old with massive COLA’s on SS.
[quote]pat wrote:
…
This is the whole shootin’ match. These are the facts…
Look at '09 and '10…
Further,what ultimately determines public debt is spending, period.
The things that determine governement revenue is the state of the economy, not who pays the most income tax.
Further, there was no shift in in the economic strategy under Clinton, he raised everybody’s taxes and it was still supply-side economics.
…
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You forgot that W. Keep all the war(s) expenses off the books…
My budget would look just peachy w/o debt servicing too…
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Reagan’s record of success:
Fought communism and broke the USSR ending a 40 year cold war.
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Uh, Someone didn’t read the Pentagon Papers… It relates the then long standing policy of applying the Economic Theory of Warfare to the cold war. Went Back to Eisenhower… Build the economy, spend on military, adversary matches. Since Soviet economy was far smaller, and grossly inefficient they had to spend a much higher percentage of GDP to match. Eventually driving them to collapse.
So blame Carter for final spending push that brought the fall of the Soviets. Reagan’s build out was too late for the Soviet response to bankrupt them. Not that he could have known that then.
Carters favorite programs: required the Soviets to scrap their whole air defense network and interceptors. Build their Navy to counter our subs… Replace their obsolete Armour (from the replacement of the t-72’s with t-80’s all the way down to armored personal carriers)…
But hey, who asked anyone to READ to know about their world.
Now with what they found in the Aral sea, Yeah, they truly were the Evil Empire. The horrors could have exceeded their Genocide in the Slavic and Eastern states if the horrors had escaped. Would have surpassed the Black Death…
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Why do I care? I guess that after reading your ignorant statements time and again it was just time to point out your many errors. Sort of like listening to your crazy uncle repeatedly tell you what’s wrong with the country and he’s not within a country mile of being correct. Enough is enough Uncle Crazy, shut the hell up.
I know you won’t shut up as no one can actually make you, (It’s a message board and how it works is as predictable as you are) and you’re too blind (with hate?) to see exactly how dumb you look with your constant emotional tirades and Reagan bashing. But as I said before, you’re going to have to start backing up your nonsense because I’m sick of your pathetic half witted emotional arguments.
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I like you when you are rational . most of the time you are so steeped in Reagan dogma you are hard to communicate with .
It is not me that is half witted and emotional , it is you . I have stated me point , very forward and you demagogue everything ,
I make errors .
I will not shut up , i witnessed a horrendous act by the PRESIDENT that is now being portraid as good politics . It was a terrible decision on Reagans part and some one needs to hold him accountable [/quote]
Just as I predicted, you’re back with yet another post and still nothing to say.
I get it, I get it.
(He’s holding a deceased former President accountable by posting on a bodybuilding forum…shh it’s going to get even better)
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Reagan sucks donkey dick
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Reagan sucks donkey dick :)[/quote]
(eye roll)