[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
6:13 - the ladies of the evening who had been admiring their passion for each other, beg them to come back so that they can watch how her man ravishes her[/quote]
Where are you getting “ladies of the evening?” We don’t know if they are males or females to be honest.[quote]
6:14 - her lover replies that this is a dance for 2, not a public festival and they go back to her place[/quote]
There is no vs. 14 but anyway, your interpretation here that the dance is just for two is purely subjective. But that’s fine. I think it merely establishes that she’s dancing. No mention of going back to her place. C’mon, Irish, how big is your thumb that you can keep pulling stuff out of it, bud?[quote]
curtain falls/curtain rises[/quote]
No curtain in the scripture doing anything (either figuratively or literally).[quote]
7:1-9 she is very obviously dancing for him . . . and the ravishing begins
7:10 - WOW![/quote]
No indication the friends or ladies of the evening or whatever, had been dismissed. None.
[/quote]
You can’t be missing the plain text here . . .
5:8 establishes the friends as the daughters of jerusalem, it is they whom she calls out to and it is they who respond
you need to read my explanation again . . .
6:13 the daughters of Jerusalem call for her to return - this clearly indicates she is taking her man and leaving. She doesn’t respond - she’s ready to get back to business now that she has her man - it’s time to go, he does answer and does so in the interrogative - why should you ladies get to watch what we’re going to do as if watching the dance of to armies maneuvering against each other in fierce combat? It’s asked specifically why should they get to watch these two lovers ravishing each other - this implication is that this is not going to be a spectator sport - by the term he uses (dance of two armies) - he is not referring to a dance by one, but of the dance of them both together.
The word picture created in these passages is clear. She is waiting at home for him, he comes, she teases him, he doesn’t think she’s going to let him in and leaves- she runs after him, is briefly detained by the cops, keeps looking for him - asks the ladies of the evening if they have seen him,they ask why he’s so special, she tells them about him - they see her passion for himand based on her description they want to see this perfect man, she finds him, the embrace, she’s ready to go and starts to drag him off, the ladies want to see what this wonderful man is going to do to her, and beg her to stay so they can witness her ravishing and being ravished by her man - he replies and say, sorry, but why should you ladies get to watch this dance of two - end of narrative . . . now they are alone and complete their lovemaking.
There is no reply,no rejoinder justifying why they should remain, thus the break in poetry (curtain fall/rise) - the logical narrative places them back at her place where she is seducing her man even more, they enjoy each, and another narrative cut and now she wants to go out and make love in the fields . . . .