Religion, Rights, and Morality

The guy I mentioned did exactly this to someone, and I’m sure it wasn’t the first time.

Yep, seen it happen more than a few times.
One time not only a guy got jumped from behind from having looked at some dude’s girl earlier on (at least that was the excuse used) , others joined in on the stomping.
Me and another guy intervened when they were going to smash this already semi uncouncious dude’s skull with a concrete sunbrella base.
We were also stomped but one of the thugs had played football with us when we were kids so he was able to make the others stop. But was still kind of nonchallant about it. Didn’t seem like it was a big deal wether we got messed up or not.

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Bruce Lee pushed a compliant dude backwards and the dude’s bodyweight did the rest. He was demonstrating how to use your entire body when executing a blow, much like any sport that includes some form of real boxing, but it came out wrong.

That’s a Wing Chun thing where you don’t “aim” to hit the target. You “aim” to hit through the target, hence the demonstration of a “blow” from that distance. Wing Chun is mostly rubbish although there are some theories you can extract and adapt to other things.

Don’t buy the Bruce Lee nonsense. Even Bruce Lee wouldn’t buy the Bruce Lee nonsense lol. It was his wife and friends who turned him into a myth after his death for money.

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Blood sport is tremendous. I’ve seen it tons of times.

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Are you telling me that a 120-pound actor couldn’t defeat every actual fighter in all weight classes at once? Nonsense.

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Of course not. He stopped using Wing Chun. Donnie Yen would be able to do that. And that’s only because Donnie’s a dick IRL. The real Ip Man wouldn’t because he would have known his skills were so deadly he would have ended up killing someone so no fight would happen in the first place.

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Actually Bruce Lee fluctuated between 135-165 for most of his career.

Initially a muscular 165 (guy was 5’7 and very lean), he felt the excess weight slowed him down and cut down to 135-140

Towards the end nearing his death he became very thin, dropping down to 120-125 lbs.

Dude, I’m telling you. Don’t buy all that Bruce Lee bullshit. He cut down weight to look shredded for his MOVIES because people wanted to see him shredded. He wasn’t very lean at 165. Later the dude was fucking around with, and probably going on nightly benders with Betty Ting before he died. That’s why he lost more weight.

The man was an actor, and a pretty good one compared to the stars in HK in his day. His screen presence alone was incomparable to any other star before him with the exception of maybe Kwan Tak Hing, who was already almost retired by then.

People loved his shredded look because the only other martial arts star who also looked “agile” at that time was David Chiang and David Chiang had no muscles. Their small statures made people want root for them as the underdogs but unlike David, Bruce Lee could take off his shirt and people would go, “WOW!”.

It’s pretty much how the conversation in this thread is going. It’s always about the small guy kicking the big guy’s ass against the perceived odds.

Bruce Lee had lots of great martial arts philosophies and could kick an unmoving object really hard. That’s it.

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I’d believe this, he was also known to consume a lot of pot towards the end. Purportedly to deal with pain associated with a herniated disc

I think he was probably pretty big at 165 given he always had visible abs and was only 5’6-5’7, I highly doubt he was natty 4 life either given his perfectionist outlook coupled with the fact he made a living off of the way he looked.

He wasn’t massive… But contrary to popular belief you don’t need to be massive in order to be on steroids… You have marathon runners getting popped for nandrolone every now and then.

They may have been movies, but his fight scenes were real…right? Right? Every moronic person can’t be wrong about him, can they?

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This was the 70s lol. Probably partied like crazy. I’ll leave it to your imagination. It wouldn’t have been hard to alter his toxicology report so we’ll never know what he was really on.

I doubt he was lean at 165lbs. The only time we saw him with abs was in his MOVIES. He was the most shredded in Enter The Dragon. I think he cut down to 125lbs IIRC. He wasn’t even lean enough to be in contest shape.

The dude mainly did circuit training on a Universal Machine and got his back injured doing like 90lb good mornings lol.

I’m reading the Bible. I ask with seriousness, what are the original interpretations? Where can one find them? I’m using the Douay Rheims Bible.

Yes, that is the name.

White people were all over the Middle East in the past. Many people in the Middle East today are part white because of this.

Here’s an interesting article I read some time ago.

Some people believe he gave us free will. So we can refrain from doing things that cause others misery. Some believe Satan exists and that he is the ultimate deceiver and corrupter of mankind.

Lol his fight scenes were choreographed by one of my favorite HK horror/comedy actors. The dude was not a martial artist. He was from the same Opera Troupe as Jackie Chan. That’s how these fellows got into the business. They were all fucking ACROBATS. Jackie was in Enter the Dragon. So was Sammo Hung, the fat dude you may remember from the old US show called Martial Law. Plus all all the dudes from the guys who did the fight scenes in The Matrix to the guy who did the fight scenes for Lethal Weapon 4 and Jet Li’s parts in The Expendables.

That’s why they’re keeping Bruce’s legacy alive even if it means exaggerating shit and going along with the silly mythical shit Linda Lee and gang were pulling out of their asses. They wouldn’t have made it without him.

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The Bruce Lee worshipers may be the dumbest people of all. Space lasers are infinitely more reasonable than “Could a prime Mike Tyson last three rounds with Bruce Lee?”

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I’ve actually had these silly debates IRL.

Disregarding the fact that the only real documented fight Bruce ever got in seemed like it ended up with 2 idiots swinging wild haymakers, people I knew actually thought Ali was SLOW because he was BIG, which is why Bruce would win. Holy fuck. Ali? Slow?

Shit, let’s just say for the sake of argument that this could be true, though it really fucking isn’t by any stretch of imagination. No rules. Bruce Lee really knew how to fight for realz and had lots of fight experience. Bruce aims for a kick to the balls.

Ali would just dance around and taunt him into knocking himself out.

:joy: :joy:

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What’s the other part? I know this upsets you but Middle Easterners are white. Unless you want to replace race with ethnicity and say Syrian, Kurd, Lebanese, Persian, etc. are races. Just look at the ancient depictions of Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Sumerians, Phoenicians, etc., and they are white. If you see someone in the ME who is black or mixed with black, that would most likely be a descendant of an African slave. It’s the same when you see a black person in India.

Hitting through a target and coordinating your whole body is basically all good striking fundamentals. Fully agree with it. I do agree Bruce was demonstrating a legit principle but as with most things it went off the rails after his death. I love his philosophy and you can see his thoughtfulness on the art of fighting while he talks (obviously as an actor and business person there’s self promotion of course). But damn, it went full on nuts after he died.

Wing Chun is fascinating. I found it enjoyable years ago from a historical perspective, and the concepts on angles were and remain useful I think - all arts have some kind of emphasis on angles of course but I found the description of them in WC different, and the concept of undermining angles to be highly interesting. But that’s separate from the crazy “woo woo” stuff.

Also the fight scenes in Ip Man are choreographed BEAUTIFULLY. They’re some of my absolute favorites.

Fucking love that movie. I don’t care how cheesy it is. It’s so awesome we have a Bloodsport poster on the front of my MMA gyms changing rooms lol.

You can’t deny it :joy:.

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The thing people don’t understand about Bruce is that he was probably never a guy who took himself too seriously despite how he looked in interviews. He was purportedly an entertaining fellow whom peers in HK loved to be around with. And there would not have been any fights or even challenges against him because HK studios were either owned or partially controlled by the triads and no one would dare go start a fight with the star of a production. Also, given the Chinese kind of respect for “elders”, he wouldn’t have lasted in HK showbiz if he behaved like a cocky asshole. No one would have even respected him. It didn’t work that way during that era.

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To my knowledge something vaguely similar to this once happened

At the time Lee was around 150lbs. He got into an altercation with a member on set who was a judo champion

Grappling usually triumphs over striking and Lee was carried around set much to his dismay. The two layer became training partners

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I gotta admit I don’t know how he behaved in the US. Maybe he overcompensated by acting like a dick but I highly doubt he would have said such stupid things in the movie. He’s probably portrayed in this way because this movie itself is a movie about movies, if that makes any sense lol.

I saw it as an entire metaphor for how reel life began to blend with reality after the Manson Murders, which shattered the illusion of Hollywood as pure escapism during it’s Golden Age since it happened to one their “own”, which shattered the relationship the audience had with the big screen. Then we started getting more “grounded” movies.

It would be reasonable to think Tarantino’s intent was to use Bruce’s screen persona to represent him although I think he was smart enough not to go too deep into this when people got outraged because it would have just prolonged the outrage.

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