Oh, Captain SJW was getting snooty, huh? I have a good stereo type story from yesterday. I was at the gym, and there was an Asian fellow DOING MATH, while doing the back extension machine. He literally had a Geometry notebook he was studying, while working out! Them Asians are sure into math! lol
Well what do you mean by that? If you have been caught with a trace, probably inert trace of cocaine in your system before, they will arrest you if you pop the test a second time?
Or do you mean that you have had a real drug offense, like a legit one where you had actual cocaine on you and in you and then they catch a trace amount of inert cocaine in your bloodstream?
So what do the cops do, if you do not have a criminal record, but they find a trace amount of coke in your system from previous use? Do they put that in your record?
Basically, how does this actually work?
Too damn many! I happen to be one of themâŠ
Yeah, thatâs true. There are sections of Russia that have no idea if they have a government and what style that government is and they donât care. They probably have never seen a government official in their lives and are duly unawares of the rest of the world. I would say the difference is you can buy the land here and it then belongs to you. You can dissappear into the wilderness and not get messed with in a lot of places.
Here, though, you can purchase the land from the government in the middle of nowhere, be aware that their is a world and a country around you and choose simply to not engage with it. I.E. the property rights ownership is the difference between being isolated in Russia and choosing to tap out of metropolitan society in the U.S.
We have a big problem here, where people are escaping (literally escaping) the cities, but bringing their ideologies that ruined the places they used to live with them. Even Americans have trouble assimilating with Americans sometimes.
This surprises me, not at all. That the CCP would try to tell God what to do is not a shock. I wondered if they decreed that Mao must be allowed in heaven, or whatever they call heaven, threatening God with jail time.
Who or what the hell is Legion?
And people put up with that shit?
Holy crap! Seriously, yall put up with this crap? But, if you riot for BLM to defend the rights of all 20 of the black folk that live in Australia, thatâs okay I am sure?
This is authoritarian as hell. My mouth is agape at the pages of civil rights violations taking place in your paragraph. But I guess thatâs what you guys want. You donât get to pick and choose your authoritarianism. If you want it, say in the case of Covid, youâre going to get it on everything else as the inevitable afterbirth.
What happens if, I show up as a tourist and I get caught up in one of these drug roundups. I donât mean having actual drugs, but I come from Las Vegas, where cannabis is legal and I get caught up in one of these random checks where I will definitely show up positive, what happens to me?
No. Not even close.
No. An emphatic no.
If anything, Putin is personally meddling in local affairs 3800 miles away from Moscow. The furthest village in Primorsky Krai bordering North Korea is under full authority of the state and Putinâs personality cult.
So you believe a country that is 6.602 million square miles, spans 11 times zones and has less than half the population of the U.S. doesnât have any pockets of isolated peoples that donât interact with any kind of government?
I know for certain it does because I just saw a show on some nomadic tribes raising reindeer and yaks in the middle of Siberia who have no contact with the outside world. They donât know what âcountryâ they are in and donât care. There is no civilization nor government entity within hundreds of miles of where these people live.
I am sure your have traveled from Leningrad to Vladivostok, but you havenât seen the whole country because nobody has. There are places in Russia that make Grass Range, Montana look like NYC.
So what was your point?
Dude, when Iâm in China Iâm less afraid of the law than most Asian countries. You try doing something as simple as crossing the road and see how much blatant disregard people have even for traffic laws. The traffic lights are POINTLESS. Itâs a free for all even in developed cities like Shenzhen. Drivers fucking curse you when you cross the road while the pedestrian crossing light is GREEN.
NO ONE can be bothered to enforce the laws there. It doesnât matter how draconian or even ludicrous they are. Thatâs the point Iâm trying to make.
The Legion dude can transcend the mortal realm into the astral plane or some mystical shit like that and go back and forth in time and shit. Thereâs a lot of Buddhist inspired mysticism and psychedelic weirdness going on that may be of interest to some in this thread.
From the dude who did the TV adaptation of Fargo, which had 2 fucking brilliant seasons and a pretty uninspired but watchable 3rd one. Stopped watching Legion after season 2 but it wasnât bad.
I donât know whatâs REALLY going on IRL in either of your countries. All Iâm saying is that if you bother to dig deep enough into the actual law, you may find theyâre pretty similar, just that in practice, itâs a different thing altogether.
So you canât just call a country âauthoritarianâ based on just reading simplified versions of their laws. You need to actually live there and see stuff like the degree to which the law is executed.
And you canât just look at one aspect to determine the general governance of a country.
For example, just compare the penalties for anabolic steroids of your country with those of any authoritarian countries in Asia.
Nah, I requested the thread be deleted soon after the shit you were also watching ended. As I said, it became pointless after that to continue.
I mean, Jesus Christ, Iâve been in a longass exchange arguing for homosexual marriage with @Sloth ffs lol. This dude tries to paint me as a homophobe for using one fucking word. I donât even believe @Sloth is a homophobe even though he was arguing against homosexual marriage since most of his points based on pragmatic things such as legal consistency, tax payer dollars being spent on tax incentives, investment in potential reproduction etc.
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It kind of is. Iâve been through these checkpoints before.
Itâs very common for an otherwise unimpaired individual to get caught over âtraceâ narcotics
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Up to 20 years inprisonment for possession in QLD/NT. Elsewhere itâs up to a few years, but typically a fine + criminal record. However itâs very rare these laws are actually enforced. You seldom hear people getting caught out for possessing AAS unless we are talking large quantities.
@Beyond_Beyond was caught with AAS inadvertently
Didnât we conclude that was for an amount that implied the intent to distribute, just that the amount itself was so low it was absurd? That means the offender isnât being charged for possession alone.
No, I donât recall going over this. Maximum penalty for AAS possession without intent to distribute in QLD/NT from my recollection is up to 20 years imprisonment. Itâs doubtful this would ever be excised, rather a small stint in prison, a good behaviour bond etc seems more likely.
These harsh laws werenât always in place, rather laws pertaining to steroid possession were beefed up following the revelation bikie gangs were distributing/trafficking large quantities of anabolic steroids. Beefing up charges associated with distribution in response wouldâve been understandable, but possession? Australia is SUPER anti AAS as a result of Americaâs war on drugs/anabolic steroid control act enacted forced through congress 1991. Get ready for a fat rantâŠ
Hell you have to have a TT below 174ng/dl, on three separate occasions, all measurements 3 months apart to qualify for trt here. Even then GPâs are extremely reluctant to prescribe and have been barred from giving out PBS subsidised scripts if I recall correctly. Some endocrinologists will issue private scripts, but finding a knowledgeable endocrinologist/doctor as to avoid a protocol like 250mg e2-4 weeks is like searching for a needle in a haystack⊠actually 250mg e2w isnât that bad, rather the supraphysiologic peaks can make the development of polycythemia more likely.
Injectable testosterone is no longer subsidised aside from testosterone undecanoate every 12-14 weeks. If you want sustanon or test E you need to go private, which works out for the better as test E on a private script ends up being a hell of a lot cheaper than subsidised androgel, Natesto, testosterone patches and reandron. I spend about 30$ every 8 weeks or so.
Itâs been said the stringent guidelines were to prevent over-prescribing, but this isnât the case. Supposedly the head of andrology Australia isnât particuarly fond on the prospect of androgen replacement/use in general. Private scripts can be given out regardless of testosterone levels as a designated TT for a PBS script is insane, what if you have super high SHBG/albumin, a high TT and abysmal free/bioavailable T? You might need TRT, but you arenât going to qualify for a script.
For other states, possession is likely to amount to a fine or a good behaviour bond + criminal record.
https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi467
Legal thresholds for drug offences
Legal thresholds are significant yet controversial tools in the sentencing of drug offenders (Hughes 2010a, 2003). Many countries explicitly avoid their use (eg France). A minority of countries specify actual quantities (eg Germany; Hughes 2010a, 2003). Australia falls into this latter, minority category. Moreover, among countries that choose to employ legal thresholds, there is variation in how they are employed, whether for example they are used to distinguish traffickers from users or to distinguish between different levels of drug trafficking or to trigger the type of sanction warranted for users (Hughes 2010a, 2003). That said, legal thresholds are used primarily to facilitate responses to high-level offenders; that is, drug traffickers.
http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/CICrimJust/2015/8.html
In Australia, eight of the nine legal jurisdictions have enacted âdeemed supplyâ provisions for illicit drug trafficking offences that presume âintent to supplyâ based on the quantity of a drug an alleged offender is found with and attach criminal liability for the offence of supply.
NOTE:
The only thing that really blows my mind is that anabolic steroids are classified as Schedule 1 drugs in Queensland. Thatâs the absurd part.
Legal statute regarding penalties associated with supply/trafficking differ.
Penalties for AAS possession in QLD
âPossessing less than 50 grams carries a maximum penalty of 15 years; 50 grams or over, 20 years; and 5000g or more, 25 years.â
Penalties for supply/trafficking
âThe maximum penalty for supplying steroids depends on the nature of the supply. Supplying a child aged under 16 carries a maximum penalty of life imprisonment; aggravated supply, 25 years; and supply in any other case, 20 years.â
Trafficking
âThe maximum penalty for trafficking steroids is 25 years imprisonment.â
Production
â The maximum penalty for producing steroids depends on the quantity of the drug produced. There quantity ranges and penalties under the Act and Regulation are the same as for possession, except that the prison term rises from 20 years to 25 years if a non-drug-addicted person produces 50g or more.â
This differs from my state, wherein the maximum sentence for possession is one year, and a jail sentence is typically avoidable.
You can probably do some digging on your own to find out the rationale. My guess is that this is normally treated as a summary offense, which would make it no different from the rest of the states unless they REALLY want to fuck with you for whatever reason.
Iâve gotta stop here. This legal shit gives me a headache and makes me want to go on a puppy killing spree.
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I believe it relates to gangs/the association between AAS use and underworld figures + gang members.
QLD generally has very harsh laws regarding illicit substances. For the NT though this is somewhat of an anomaly.
It could be as simple as police not being able to catch them with the actual quantities because theyâre somehow found a way to rapidly get rid of the bulk of stuff in possession prior to being caught.
Think about this. If the cops get a tip off and decide to raid an apartment full of heroine with a warrant, they normally break the door down since the perpetrators can easily flush most of the shit down the toilet if someone downstairs tips them off and theyâre afforded given enough time.
BUT, really, I donât know. This is just speculation. You gotta go ask some cops or lawyers there for the full story.
I donât have to live in North Korea to know they are authoritarian. But your point is taken. If the people donât feel imposed upon and clearly vote and wish the government to take those types of roles in their lives is it fair to call it authoritarian. To a certain point, yes. I was in Australia when it wasnât like it is now. I loved it. I thought it was an amazing place and I wanted to come back. Now I donât. Whether or not the people enjoy the authoritarian measures take by their government not withstanding, I donât want to go there, save for maybe a business reason. But they live there and I donât. So who am I to criticize them for having the country they want?
I guess I am torn. All these foreigners seem to have no issues lobbing criticisms at my country with rampant abandon, so I do feel some right to do the same. But itâs not my country and the people deserve to have the country they want, whether or not, I like it. Itâs just hard for me to fathom that people welcome such measures against themselves, but as much as people are the same, people are different. Some people dislike making decisions for themselves and find it overwhelming, hence rather someone else make those decisions for them. This sounds like a fake problem, who in the world would want less freedom? People who never had freedom are freaked out by freedom. Itâs kind of like an abuser effect. As many people worked very hard to escape from a place like North Korea, there is a certain amount of them who achieve their goal, get freaked out by it and decide to go back.
So I get your point, if the people have the country they want, who am I to criticize it? But then again, those same people are more than happy to criticize my country and who are they to criticize it?
Dude is a deluxe, special edition moron. He self-proclaimed himself to be a racist. How dumb do you have to be to do that? Heâs nose deep into that critical race theory garbage and he managed to disparage himself. I have called others and have been called a fag many times here. He was weaponizing victim-hood. Is that your first experience with a SJW? Like a real, true believer, SJW.
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This is another example of patâs stupidity. The only difference between his visit and conditions now is Covid. It wasnât like it is now? No shit, because Covid.
He did love it when he visited but because of Covid measures, right or wrong, he now hates it. As if the conditions there will not change back once there is a vaccine or whatever.
How dare they!
Unless itâs abortion and then they should defer to your beliefs.
They are humans who supposedly have rights, God given according to you, so why get offended when they exercise them?
When you were in Australia, Iâll bet the laws were the same with the possible exception of Queensland since the statutes have been in effect since 1986. THATâS my point. You just didnât know they existed. I donât think youâre that old lol. And, again, you should read up on your OWN countyâs laws, especially emergency powers. (Hint: Mandatory conscription of males 18-45.)
If I base my view of your country just from reading your laws, I might just think the US is an authoritarian state. (Please letâs not get into this. I hate reading the law lol. It makes me want to mass murder schnauzer and poodle hybrid puppies.)
Relax, I know how to handle this kind of power play lol. SJWs are noob level players. But I just donât like having to engage in it on a site where I come for leisure.
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I have known REAL socialists of the Marxist-Leninist variety IRL. Iâm talking Red Guard type fanatics. This shit isnât new to me haha. SJWs are watered down, privileged brats in comparison.
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