Religion Catch All

According to whom? The priests made it up.

Apparently, there are many more than one.

Whatever floats whoever’s boat so long as we envision the same society.

If one is even a pro-life/traditional marriage atheist I’ll vote for you assuming no surprises

IMO, this paints God as a mob boss. That’s a nice family you got there, would be terrible if you did something that causes me to kill them. I don’t like this type of justification much.

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If folks are looking for a Christian to say God could wipe us all out and that would be morally good…hi, nice to meet you. His creation to dispose of like we would do with fleas. And yeah, he gets to decide if, when, who.

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But we didn’t create fleas.

I doubt that would change our disposition to them. If anything they would be even more at our will and pleasure.

If you know the penalty and do the crime anyway, who is at fault if you have to pay the consequences? Sure, being barren might seem harsh to us now, but it’s smething that happens from screwing around a lot anyway. It’s not like STD’s didn’t exist back then, and the damage to the family and any existing children is a fairly serious consideration in the behaviour of the parents. A Mob boss wants payment for something that is not his and for which you receive no real recompense. It is a penalty meant to protect everyone in the long run in that society.

If we had God’s character flaws.

Come to think about it, if one is against abortion (a life we created) then that makes him better than God who is willing to destroy the life He created, on a whim.

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The proper translation is ā€œthou shalt not murderā€. In Hebrew ā€œratsakhā€ is the word used and only used for murder. It is never used in terms of warfare or carrying out a judicial sentence.

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If you’re God, your character is perfect and ours is at your discretion. Not the other way around. If there is no God. ā€œFlawā€ is just an individual human opinion/fantasy without any true foundation.

Then you don’t kill people on a whim. Remember, we were made in His image so why are we expected to be better than He?

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Better? What is ā€œbetter?ā€ There is no better. Are we still placing faith in a moral code outside of both ourselves and even God? That’s fine if you do. I have non-Christian friends yet religious friends! Then we both operate on faith.

We are told not to kill but God can kill. However, we are made in His image. What’s good for God should therefore be good for us.

Right. We’re made in his image at his pleasure. He’s not made in ours at our pleasure. He sets the law for us. Not us for him. Not really sure I get this line of attack. We’re the creature, he’s the all mighty creator and sustaining power who calls the shots for us. We state as much. I’m not sure I can be more clear. We can’t decide to just kill our neighbor. God could end us all. And that is morally good. If there is no God, then there’s no objective, absolute, or empirical good or evil to judge my little fantasy.

Do you believe in hell?

Yep. And all that entails. Eternal punishment, yada yada. No shame in this game.

Well, you’re consistent. I don’t believe in objective morality, and I think your God is subjectively a dick to create a self aware being, and then punish them based on faith.

I’m assuming you take the position that God is not a loving God? I do know many apologists take this position.

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Thank you for your opinion. Understood.

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So what alternative do you propose?

According to the book they were supposed to be following.