Hell as a place is more of a Revelation thing and I believe that that book should not have been made canonical and in some denominations it isn’t.
The Pope said that Hell is a state of disconnect from God. The whole lake of fire thing is primitive imagination at work.
So you have an opinion on Biblical canon while not believing in God.
How does that work from a logical standpoint?
A. Have I ever said I don’t believe in God?
B. Does one have to have been a horse before they can become a jockey?
Do you have any opinions of the doctrine of Islam?
Ask if he has any opinions on the Democratic platform.
What? Are you trying to cast doubt on the existence of a location where people are tortured for eternity after they die?
It’s a great threat though for kids. Even scared me growing up. I mean fear of a belt or switch is nothing compared to the idea of eternal punishment.
I can’t picture a universe in which that and Jesus can coexist.
Easily Australia’s greatest export. Angus is still moving like that. He’s what, 70?
Malcolm is the greatest rhythm player and prolific riff writer in rock history.
Mel?
Seeing them live was definitely a bucket list item when they were at the Sprint Center. Many of the first pieces of physical music I ever owned. Dating myself but cassette tapes before double dipping and buying the same shit on CD
Okay, do you?
Since canon connotes the acceptance of the written words having been inspired by God, then unless you believe in God, it would be illogical to state which words were inspired. That is as opposed to saying none of them are since ,there is no god.
Not exactly. Biblical scholarship does not require belief. And the inclusion of Revelation was controversial at the time and as I said, not all denominations accept it as canonical.
I don’t tell people my beliefs one way or another because my arguments should stand or fall regardless of my personal beliefs.
Your great learning is driving you insane.
It’s all relative.
Sigh, good call. Ok, tied for the greatest.
Dude, I saw them in Kemper Arena for the Stiff Upper Lip tour, perfect seats. Still the absolute loudest concert I’ve ever been to. My buddy and I had to shout to each other in the car on the way home. I couldn’t hear for a week.
Worth every second x 2.
I was unable to see them the last time round, and I’ll never get to see Malcolm again. I still kick myself for that, but I did get to see them once.
Saw them on Black Ice?
2x on loud. Sat maybe 2 rows from back in Houston. Ear plugs and muffs.
Still ringing the next day
I don’t understand why some of you continue on to hell, Christ, heaven, evil, and such when your audience outright rejects faith. No faith in a god. No faith in any action being inherently good or wrong. Nothing. You have zero common ground to even move on to such topics. Different paradigms. Live and vote to shape the world as you can
This is where there is common ground as ultimately those with faith and those without are still left to decide what is right or wrong without God telling us. Was it right to drop an atomic bomb on Japan? Could we have asked God for his position on that? How about gay marriage? Is it right to deny gays the right to get married even if the Bible can be interpreted to say it is a sin? Meaning, are the faithful obligated to make others follow their rules or are those rules only for the faithful?
There is also utility in religion even if there is belief in a god, gods, or not. It provides an agreed-upon moral code that dictates behavior and instills trust and connection amongst adherents and promotes community building.
Critics of religion usually say that it is a tool for controlling people, to which my response is, “So what? Is there something wrong with this?”
The average secular person is controlled regardless! I estimate as little as 15% of the current Western population is capable of critical thought and actually knows what’s good for them or what they want. Their tastes, behavior, and attitudes on nearly everything are made up for them by entertainment and media and they have a surrogate pantheon of their own consisting of “personalities” and surrogate daddies (like Joe Rogan), media talking heads (like Sean Hannity), musicians (if we can call them that now), celebs, and athletes. Some even mimic what they see in fictional TV shows and movies. Couple that with the destruction of the family unit and the feeling of not having to answer to anyone or an overarching power and you get the results we see today.