[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Another 4 - 8 years of progressive/lib shit would surely be devastating.[/quote]
Factor in our military going through some serious bullshit, and it could be a perfect storm.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[/quote]
All this “hedging of your bets” by pointing out all of these “outside” reasons for why the GOP may lose the White House is getting old, Zeb.
It won’t be the media or another Democrat or the downfall of America that will keep the GOP out of the White House. If they don’t take the White House, the GOP will have only themselves to blame.
The GOP needs to grow some balls and quit whining; work hard on their own divided house; stop looking for some “pure” candidate (there is none); refine the message and/or the messengers; and get behind the candidate they elect.
Otherwise, get used to saying “President Clinton”.
Mufasa
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Another 4 - 8 years of progressive/lib shit would surely be devastating.[/quote]
The sad thing, I thought 8 years of Obummer might be the best thing for the country. I thought this when he was elected the second time. I said fine, ruin the country and folks will come back to their senses.
The problem is it’s a slow wreck. We won’t see the damage of today until 10 years from now.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[/quote]
The Republican line up is a freak show. If you think any off them has a chance, you’re in for a rude awakening.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Another 4 - 8 years of progressive/lib shit would surely be devastating.[/quote]
Witness devastation.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
All this “hedging of your bets” by pointing out all of these “outside” reasons for why the GOP may lose the White House is getting old, Zeb.[/quote]
You may have my posts confused with someone else’s my friend. I am the one who is saying that there will never be a President Hillary Clinton. I am claiming that should she be the nominee she’s not going to win!
You see Mufasa she was always a turd wrapped up in a pretty package. The only election that she ever won was to become Senator of New York. New York possibly the most liberal state after California, but certainly in the top 3 or 4. Let me refresh your memory. She was, at the time, recently first lady and she parlayed that position into a US Senate seat. Now keep in mind that her and Billy boy chose very carefully where they would move after he left the White House. And as I said they chose a very liberal state. And just like magic it worked. But only in a handful of states could she have pulled that off.
You with me?
No hedging…pretty clear right?
Well that’s not necessarily true Mufasa. It is a very well known fact (I don’t have to post the studies do I) that the main stream liberal media pulls for the democrat in Presidential elections. If you don’t accept that you are living in lala land and I’m sure you don’t want to take up residency there do you?
But even given this fact I am claiming that Hillary is still not winning, that’s how bad of a candidate she is. The big boost from her cronies in the media will not be enough for the majority of people to vote for Hillary Clinton as President.
So once again not hedging just pointing out facts.
Again with the whining? Tell me who exactly is doing all this whining that you are apparently hearing? We know it’s not me. I am stating facts (studies back me up on the media liberal bias). Beyond that I don’t hear any of the leading candidates even mentioning the liberal bias in the media. It’s something that all major candidates are aware of accept as fact and try to move forward anyway. But maybe you could you name one and give me a quote maybe I missed something.
Who is looking for a “pure” candidate? In fact, just exactly what is a “pure candidate”? I was the one who said that there are a number of republican candidates who could beat Hillary. None of them “pure” by the way. What I would like to see, and you’ve heard it from me before, is to have a ticket than gives the republicans a landslide victory. And that ticket exists in a multitude of different candidates. The fact is should Hillary be the nominee, (and that is not a lock with Bernie Sanders within 10 points of her), she’s going to get clobbered—Would you like to bet on it?
Fortunately that is not a term that I will be using any time in the near future. Now there is always Chelsea who knows what will happen with her in 20 years? But Mommy is not getting elected to the Presidency and for some reason that really seems to bother you.
I wonder why that is?
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[/quote]
The Republican line up is a freak show. If you think any off them has a chance, you’re in for a rude awakening.[/quote]
A freak show you say? Au contraire mon fraire
We have the single best line up of potential Presidential hopefuls to ever toss their collective hats in the modern day Presidential ring!
Seven current or former Governors:
Bush
Kasich
Jindal
Huckabee
Christie
Perry
Walker
Did you know that Governors are rarely defeated when running for President? History tells us that the only time they lose is to sitting Presidents which by the way Hillary is not.
Four sitting Senators:
Paul
Rubio
Graham
Cruz
Interesting to note that all four senators have had more experience than the lefty Obama when he ran. All of these guys actually matter in the Senate. They vote on things take strong positions on issues…you know the opposite of Obama.
Two business people:
Fiorina
Trump
you may recall one particular business man who ran as a 3rd party candidate in 92 and 96, Ross Perot. You see they are strong candidates because of their real world experience…something lefty Obama never had. Not many realize that Obama actually never had a real job in his life! I wonder has Hillary ever had one?
One doctor
Carson
In fact, we have to go back to 1980 when Reagan and Bush Sr. fought it out with 6 other highly rated contenders to find a GOP field as good as this one. You may know that the winner Ronald Reagan went on to defeat a sitting President.
One more point which you are no doubt unaware:
In that incredible group of candidates there lies several combinations of candidates that can hand Hillary a resounding defeat of landslide proportions.
For example, modern day republicans never get elected to the Presidency without winning both Florida and Ohio. We happen to have one senator and a Governor from Florida. We also have a sitting Governor from Ohio. To make matters worse for the democratic candidate we also have a sitting Governor from Wisconsin which is also an important GOP state. There are other combinations of candidates that can cause the GOP to win big as well. I won’t trouble you with that information now as I’m sure you are already on overload.
One final point, do you think that so many record breaking qualified candidates are running for President if they didn’t think they had an incredible opportunity to capture the White House? Don’t you think that they all know what I have been stating over and over on this very board? Hillary is not going to win, someone is going to beat her. It’s just a matter of who will capture the nomination?
Oh and I have a bonus quiz to further your education: Since the law changed and a President can only run for two terms when is the last time that a democrat sat in the White House for three consecutive terms? Keep in mind we are not counting Roosevelt as he was allowed to run for more than two consecutive terms. So Roosevelt/Truman does not count.
The answer: NEVER!!
It was only accomplished one time and that was by the republicans when George H. W. Bush defeated a very poor candidate, Michael Dukakis in 1988 to put the White House in the hands of republicans for 12 years.
So sit back suck it up and get ready to feel really sad when one of the above (or perhaps someone that I forgot to note) is sworn in as President in 2016.
“Hedging your bets” may be a wrong term, Zeb…but I think not.
So what do you call it when you list all of these reasons the GOP will win the Presidency in a bloodbath/landslide (which I hope they do)…
BUT, but, but…if they should lose…it will be because of (fill-in-the-blanks)…with not one reason…NOT ONE being because of the GOP itself?
The loss will be because of the media…or a leftist, sheeple public…Hollywood…probably even President Obama himself…you name it…but never because of the mistakes of the GOP?
Call it what you may…but its getting old.
(And I’ll state it again, so I’m clear…I hope the GOP ends up winning the Presidency and a Veto-proof majority in the House and Senate…)
Mufasa
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[/quote]
The Republican line up is a freak show. If you think any off them has a chance, you’re in for a rude awakening.[/quote]
A freak show you say? Au contraire mon fraire
We have the single best line up of potential Presidential hopefuls to ever toss their collective hats in the modern day Presidential ring!
Seven current or former Governors:
Bush
Kasich
Jindal
Huckabee
Christie
Perry
Walker
Did you know that Governors are rarely defeated when running for President? History tells us that the only time they lose is to sitting Presidents which by the way Hillary is not.
Four sitting Senators:
Paul
Rubio
Graham
Cruz
Interesting to note that all four senators have had more experience than the lefty Obama when he ran. All of these guys actually matter in the Senate. They vote on things take strong positions on issues…you know the opposite of Obama.
Two business people:
Fiorina
Trump
you may recall one particular business man who ran as a 3rd party candidate in 92 and 96, Ross Perot. You see they are strong candidates because of their real world experience…something lefty Obama never had. Not many realize that Obama actually never had a real job in his life! I wonder has Hillary ever had one?
One doctor
Carson
In fact, we have to go back to 1980 when Reagan and Bush Sr. fought it out with 6 other highly rated contenders to find a GOP field as good as this one. You may know that the winner Ronald Reagan went on to defeat a sitting President.
One more point which you are no doubt unaware:
In that incredible group of candidates there lies several combinations of candidates that can hand Hillary a resounding defeat of landslide proportions.
For example, modern day republicans never get elected to the Presidency without winning both Florida and Ohio. We happen to have one senator and a Governor from Florida. We also have a sitting Governor from Ohio. To make matters worse for the democratic candidate we also have a sitting Governor from Wisconsin which is also an important GOP state. There are other combinations of candidates that can cause the GOP to win big as well. I won’t trouble you with that information now as I’m sure you are already on overload.
One final point, do you think that so many record breaking qualified candidates are running for President if they didn’t think they had an incredible opportunity to capture the White House? Don’t you think that they all know what I have been stating over and over on this very board? Hillary is not going to win, someone is going to beat her. It’s just a matter of who will capture the nomination?
Oh and I have a bonus quiz to further your education: Since the law changed and a President can only run for two terms when is the last time that a democrat sat in the White House for three consecutive terms? Keep in mind we are not counting Roosevelt as he was allowed to run for more than two consecutive terms. So Roosevelt/Truman does not count.
The answer: NEVER!!
It was only accomplished one time and that was by the republicans when George H. W. Bush defeated a very poor candidate, Michael Dukakis in 1988 to put the White House in the hands of republicans for 12 years.
So sit back suck it up and get ready to feel really sad when one of the above (or perhaps someone that I forgot to note) is sworn in as President in 2016.
[/quote]
Yeah, a freak show, like I said. Half of them have a shoe size higher than their IQ.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Hedging your bets” may be a wrong term, Zeb…but I think not.
So what do you call it when you list all of these reasons the GOP will win the Presidency in a bloodbath/landslide (which I hope they do)…
BUT, but, but…if they should lose…it will be because of (fill-in-the-blanks)…with not one reason…NOT ONE being because of the GOP itself?
The loss will be because of the media…or a leftist, sheeple public…Hollywood…probably even President Obama himself…you name it…but never because of the mistakes of the GOP?
Call it what you may…but its getting old.
(And I’ll state it again, so I’m clear…I hope the GOP ends up winning the Presidency and a Veto-proof majority in the House and Senate…)
Mufasa
[/quote]
Boohoo, those stupid voters let the facts get in the way. 
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Or we get another liberal and we’re completely fucked…[/quote]
Hillary Clinton will not be elected President of the United States, not now…not ever.
Now if someone with charisma, personality, serious financial backing and intelligence beats her in the primaries all bets are off. Other than that you will see a republican in the White House in 2016 in spite of the media doing its hardest to defeat said republican.
[/quote]
The Republican line up is a freak show. If you think any off them has a chance, you’re in for a rude awakening.[/quote]
A freak show you say? Au contraire mon fraire
We have the single best line up of potential Presidential hopefuls to ever toss their collective hats in the modern day Presidential ring!
Seven current or former Governors:
Bush
Kasich
Jindal
Huckabee
Christie
Perry
Walker
Did you know that Governors are rarely defeated when running for President? History tells us that the only time they lose is to sitting Presidents which by the way Hillary is not.
Four sitting Senators:
Paul
Rubio
Graham
Cruz
Interesting to note that all four senators have had more experience than the lefty Obama when he ran. All of these guys actually matter in the Senate. They vote on things take strong positions on issues…you know the opposite of Obama.
Two business people:
Fiorina
Trump
you may recall one particular business man who ran as a 3rd party candidate in 92 and 96, Ross Perot. You see they are strong candidates because of their real world experience…something lefty Obama never had. Not many realize that Obama actually never had a real job in his life! I wonder has Hillary ever had one?
One doctor
Carson
In fact, we have to go back to 1980 when Reagan and Bush Sr. fought it out with 6 other highly rated contenders to find a GOP field as good as this one. You may know that the winner Ronald Reagan went on to defeat a sitting President.
One more point which you are no doubt unaware:
In that incredible group of candidates there lies several combinations of candidates that can hand Hillary a resounding defeat of landslide proportions.
For example, modern day republicans never get elected to the Presidency without winning both Florida and Ohio. We happen to have one senator and a Governor from Florida. We also have a sitting Governor from Ohio. To make matters worse for the democratic candidate we also have a sitting Governor from Wisconsin which is also an important GOP state. There are other combinations of candidates that can cause the GOP to win big as well. I won’t trouble you with that information now as I’m sure you are already on overload.
One final point, do you think that so many record breaking qualified candidates are running for President if they didn’t think they had an incredible opportunity to capture the White House? Don’t you think that they all know what I have been stating over and over on this very board? Hillary is not going to win, someone is going to beat her. It’s just a matter of who will capture the nomination?
Oh and I have a bonus quiz to further your education: Since the law changed and a President can only run for two terms when is the last time that a democrat sat in the White House for three consecutive terms? Keep in mind we are not counting Roosevelt as he was allowed to run for more than two consecutive terms. So Roosevelt/Truman does not count.
The answer: NEVER!!
It was only accomplished one time and that was by the republicans when George H. W. Bush defeated a very poor candidate, Michael Dukakis in 1988 to put the White House in the hands of republicans for 12 years.
So sit back suck it up and get ready to feel really sad when one of the above (or perhaps someone that I forgot to note) is sworn in as President in 2016.
[/quote]
Yeah, a freak show, like I said. Half of them have a shoe size higher than their IQ.[/quote]
All of them have degrees of higher learning many from very prestigious schools. All of them well accomplished as politicians, business people or in the case of Ben Carson as a doctor.
You are a buffoon who simply throws words down on a message board but has no substance. All would do well to ignore your nonsense.
One last time just for you: Hillary won’t sitting in the oval office unless of course the next President of the United States invites her in for a visit.
You’re going to somehow have to learn to live with that 
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Hedging your bets” may be a wrong term, Zeb…but I think not.
So what do you call it when you list all of these reasons the GOP will win the Presidency in a bloodbath/landslide (which I hope they do)…
BUT, but, but…if they should lose…it will be because of (fill-in-the-blanks)…with not one reason…NOT ONE being because of the GOP itself?
The loss will be because of the media…or a leftist, sheeple public…Hollywood…probably even President Obama himself…you name it…but never because of the mistakes of the GOP?
Call it what you may…but its getting old.
(And I’ll state it again, so I’m clear…I hope the GOP ends up winning the Presidency and a Veto-proof majority in the House and Senate…)
Mufasa
[/quote]
Not hedging Mufasa. Obviously there are reasons that elections are won and lost. For example I think Romney lost because he did not respond to all the “rich guy and out of touch” attacks that Obama launched during the summer. He allowed the opposition to paint him inaccurately.
As for this upcoming election what I have been saying and what you are not reading is that, ready?
HILLARY IS NOT WINNING.
Am I hedging?
What I am saying is that all of the help from liberal Hollywood, the media etc. is not going to be enough to elect her to the highest office in the land.
Here’s why:
In the world of great tasting ice cream bars she is shit on a stick!
A really lousy product with great hype does not sell well in the long-term. Her own handlers are trying to keep her out of the public eye until it is absolutely necessary because they know she is shit on a stick. The more you hear and see her the less you like her. They know this but for some reason it has escaped you. From her voice to her appearance, to her corrupt ways she’s a lousy candidate!
So in short there will be no loss for the GOP in the upcoming Presidential race. There is nothing including an obviously bias media who can make shit on a stick taste like a Fudgy.
D O Y O U U N D E R S T A N D Y E T ?
What is getting old is your constant mischaracterization of my position. And that deserves a strong retort on my part.
You claiming that you hope the GOP wins and maintains control of the House and Senate is about as genuine as one of Hillary Clinton’s promises. I’ve read too many of your posts not just recently but several years ago as well to buy into that.
You never liked my attacks on the media as being liberal. This dates back several years. I have shown you the facts on the liberal media bias but you don’t accept it. Now why is that Mufasa? You don’t see or accept the facts because…hmmm could it be that YOU lean left yourself? I have never once spoken to anyone who leans left who thinks that the media is bias. Know why? They like what they read and hear so by gosh it couldn’t be bias–simple!
But, no problem you are certainly entitled to your political opinion. But why masquerade as something different? Just embrace it and let the debate begin. You have always tried to ride the fence and while some buy it I never did.
Also, If you want to continue your attack on me try something new. Mischaracterizing my position on the upcoming Presidential election is wearing thin and so very obviously wrong.
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Actually how you vote is no concern of mine.
Oh and by the way did I tell you that Hillary is not winning?
Yeah…I guess I did.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Actually how you vote is no concern of mine.
Oh and by the way did I tell you that Hillary is not winning?
Yeah…I guess I did.[/quote]
Dunno where you get your information, but realclearpolitics has HRC leading in every head-to-head match-up against Bush, Walker, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, Huckabee, Christie and Carson.
jnd
[quote]jnd wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Actually how you vote is no concern of mine.
Oh and by the way did I tell you that Hillary is not winning?
Yeah…I guess I did.[/quote]
Dunno where you get your information, but realclearpolitics has HRC leading in every head-to-head match-up against Bush, Walker, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, Huckabee, Christie and Carson.
jnd[/quote]
Really?
[quote]jnd wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Actually how you vote is no concern of mine.
Oh and by the way did I tell you that Hillary is not winning?
Yeah…I guess I did.[/quote]
Dunno where you get your information, but realclearpolitics has HRC leading in every head-to-head match-up against Bush, Walker, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, Huckabee, Christie and Carson.
jnd[/quote]
Historically, one particular candidate will beat a myriad of potential candidates every time. So, that poll is quite meaningless.
Even so I’ve actually seen recent polls where almost any of the top contenders do well against Hillary. But, far more importantly I am looking beyond any early polling directly at the candidate herself.
Want to read my laundry list?
Clinton fatigue-In the end most don’t want to see the Clintons back in the White House with all of their baggage. They represent the past. If she stands next to say Marco Rubio on the debating stage next year she will look all of her 68 years. Rubio (or fill in your favorite republican) will look like the future while she represents the past. And just before the election in 2016 she turns 69. She wants to win and serve two terms that makes her 77 before she leaves office. That my friend is absolutely not happening!
As I have been saying Hillary is actually a very poor candidate. She wants to be President yet she possesses none of the skills that it takes to get there. Is she a spell binding speaker? No. Does she have charisma? No.
No one but the devout hang on every word of a Hillary Clinton speech. But they do look nervously around the room and check their watches. In fact, her handlers know this so well they are keeping her out of the public eye (for the most part) until they absolutely have to give her up. They are doing this because generally speaking, unless you are a wild eyed feminist the more you see her the less you like her. Hillary will turn you off faster than you can say Benghazi.
And speaking of Benghazi Hillary has a great deal of skeletons in her closet. What did happen in Benghazi? What about the Clinton foundation? There are others that have popped up as well. But once she captures the nomination there will be more scandals brought to the forefront which not many people know about currently…if she does win the nomination. Old Bernie Sanders is on her heals. Most recent poll Hillary is only ahead of him by 10 points. That by the way tells me two things. The first of which is she is being challenged on the left. That means she will have to veer further left to capture the nomination. The general public is not that far left which will hurt her in the general election. The second thing is that those on the far left may feel scorned and many will stay home during the general. Does anyone really think she can motivate her base on election day as Barack Obama did? Think again!
What big election has she ever won? New York State Senate vs an unknown candidate Rick Lazio. Who himself was at the top of the boring people list. Also, she was a celebrity rock start at the time just coming off being first lady. That’s all gone now she is yesterday’s news. And the things she tried to do to become relevant again have only harmed her.
The one big election that she was involved in was the Presidential race of 2008. Look what happened, her own party tossed her aside for newcomer Obama. She just isn’t lovable is she? And at the time she was still at the top of her game, the favorite of the democrat party. But looked what happened.
Here’s one you don’t hear every day. She’s a woman and women are really excited to vote for her right? Wrong! Far left women are excited to vote for her and certainly some young women simply because she’s a woman. But generally speaking women vote for the democrat anyway. In fact, historically the majority of women have voted for the democratic candidate in ever Presidential election since Bill Clinton defeated George H. W. Bush back in 1992. So who are the republicans actually losing in terms of voters? No one! But wait what new voting block does she bring with her as a Presidential candidate? Answer: None! Obama turned out many black voters that usually stayed home. Hillary turns out no one new to the democrat side. And as I’ve said will be hard pressed to even turn out the base in large numbers.
I’ve said this one before so I apologize if you’ve already read it. The democrats (other than Roosevelt/Truman back in 1952 have not been able to hold the White House from candidate to candidate. Mondale tried in 1984 and received the largest electoral landside defeat in the history of Presidential elections! It’s difficult for either party to hold onto the White House after two terms in office. The last time it was done was by republican George H.W. Bush in 1988. Now throw in an incredibly unpopular President whose numbers are seemingly falling by the month and this is in spite of the main stream liberal media trying to prop him. In short, Obam will be no help to Candidate Hillary. And in fact will very likely harm her.
There are other things as well that paint Hillary a loser. But, I’m running out of time for now.
I do tend to go on about this topic but I actually can’t help myself. I am giddy with the thought that the republicans will be facing Hillary Clinton.
[quote]jnd wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
You’ve said your piece, and I’ve said mine, Zeb.
Move on.
What you believe or not believe when it comes to my positions, or how I will vote, is no concern of mine.
Mufasa[/quote]
Actually how you vote is no concern of mine.
Oh and by the way did I tell you that Hillary is not winning?
Yeah…I guess I did.[/quote]
Dunno where you get your information, but realclearpolitics has HRC leading in every head-to-head match-up against Bush, Walker, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, Huckabee, Christie and Carson.
jnd[/quote]
I believe she was kicking Obama’s ass at this point in 2007 too.