[quote]Dr J wrote:
I saw a skit featuring “the Jeb” on Jimmy Fallon last night. It was actually funny, and it seemed he was given the opportunity to appear favorably. I didn’t stay awake to watch the actual interview, but I was surprised by the seeming “fairness” of the skit. It was almost reminiscent to Clinton’s appearance on Arsenio Hall so many years ago.[/quote]
Fallon isn’t a partisan douchebag like Letterman was. He rips both sides. Whatever way he leans he’s pretty good about making his show about laughs not pushing his personal agenda.
It’s a breath of fresh air. [/quote]
I agree. I’m not even sure which way he does lean, which is as it should be.
[quote]Dr J wrote:
I saw a skit featuring “the Jeb” on Jimmy Fallon last night. It was actually funny, and it seemed he was given the opportunity to appear favorably. I didn’t stay awake to watch the actual interview, but I was surprised by the seeming “fairness” of the skit. It was almost reminiscent to Clinton’s appearance on Arsenio Hall so many years ago.[/quote]
Fallon isn’t a partisan douchebag like Letterman was. He rips both sides. Whatever way he leans he’s pretty good about making his show about laughs not pushing his personal agenda.
It’s a breath of fresh air. [/quote]
It really is easier to make fun of the right in most cases so you can’t blame them just based on the number of jokes. For once this is in the rights favor (for now) though since Hillary is easy to make fun of and until a republican candidate says something stupid (they will soon enough) there isn’t much to go off of right now except Donald trump jokes. Hillary is going to share the same problems Romney had, more so than whatever republican candidate goes against her.
[quote]Dr J wrote:
I saw a skit featuring “the Jeb” on Jimmy Fallon last night. It was actually funny, and it seemed he was given the opportunity to appear favorably. I didn’t stay awake to watch the actual interview, but I was surprised by the seeming “fairness” of the skit. It was almost reminiscent to Clinton’s appearance on Arsenio Hall so many years ago.[/quote]
Fallon isn’t a partisan douchebag like Letterman was. He rips both sides. Whatever way he leans he’s pretty good about making his show about laughs not pushing his personal agenda.
It’s a breath of fresh air. [/quote]
It really is easier to make fun of the right in most cases so you can’t blame them just based on the number of jokes. For once this is in the rights favor (for now) though since Hillary is easy to make fun of and until a republican candidate says something stupid (they will soon enough) there isn’t much to go off of right now except Donald trump jokes. Hillary is going to share the same problems Romney had, more so than whatever republican candidate goes against her.[/quote]
If Hillary makes it through the primary, watch and see the media make her the darling of the election.
And if Jeb makes it through the primary, watch and see this “he seems well spoken and reasonable” bullshit the into “we are still fighting a war your brother got us into.”
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Fortunately, his opponent will be Hillary Clinton possibly the worst candidate to run for President since Michael Dukakis (92’ vs Bush Sr.). So he may win anyway, but not as decisively as any other viable republican not named Bush.
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I’m going to out my predictions right now. Sanders is going to beat Hillary in the primary, and he is going to beat Cruz or Rubio in the General.
That’s my prediction. We’re fucked as a country when it happens, but at least I’ll be able to gloat I was right. [/quote]
I won’t say what I said when similar prediction were made about Obama in 08…[/quote]
lol, what’s that?
Here’s the thing, Hilary just doesn’t have the same perfect storm that Obama had, and she doesnt’ have his charisma. I think people are vastly over estimating the enthusiasm levels for her here.
Her issues:
She is stale as fuck. People have crowned her Queen since December 2012. The younger generations get board of shit real fast. Her turnout won’t match Obama’s when it comes to getting the youth and “typically don’t vote” people to the polls.
Her biggest assets are the sexist’s that will vote for her because “it’s time for a woman POTUS”. And those people aren’t regular voters.
She is dry and boring as hell to listen to. At least Bam has passion, misguided commie passion, but passion none the less. She sounds like a circus elephant ready to be put down on stage. Slow, old, sloppy and boring as hell.
Sanders is like Liz Warren male. He says all the “millionaires and billionaires” plays the pathetic class warfare card that morons eat up like candy and pretends he is “independent”.
If anyone is catching lightening in a bottle from the D ticket it is Sanders. If the establishment picks Hilary, any single one of the current crop of Republican possibilities can beat her as long as they dont’ talk about fucking rape or homosexuality.
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Agreed, but Sanders would probably lose to most of the republican candidates by an even wider margin. He looks likes the guy on the popcorn box, Orville Redenbocker. Now tell me when is the last time a white haired socialist was elected President? NEVER. And Warren could possibly lose by an even wider margin.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
So Sad we would even entertain our choice by those that have the money rather than those that have our ideals . In my opinion if either Clinton or Bush win their party I predict the rise of a 3rd party [/quote]
I don’t think that’s a bad prediction. But, if you look at recent history Ross Perot tried a 3rd party play for the White House back in 92’. As a conservative business man he pulled 19% of the vote, mostly they say from Bush Sr. and help elect Bill Clinton. He tried again in 96’ while he drew less votes he still pulled enough to reelect Clinton again.
The left wing media never mentions this but Bill Clinton their paragon of liberalism never achieved 50% of the vote while winning two terms in the white house.
As for a 3rd party candidate making a play for 2020, he better have very deep pockets. Perot was a billionaire and he couldn’t make it work. Ralph Nader has run as a 3rd party candidate in several Presidential elections so you don’t have to have large sums of money to actually run. But, if you want to win that’s another matter. It costs mega bucks to start your own party and actually succeed. Keep in mind that every President that has been elected since 1852 has either been a republican or democrat. So talk is cheap but running a 3rd party not so cheap!
As for your original point I think it will come down to how successful the next President actually is. If he or she is another Obama I agree with you, people will be crying out for a 3rd party candidate. But, if the next President can actually succeed while also motivating the electorate then I have no doubt the two party system will continue on unchallenged.[/quote]
There are other factions that make this coming election different , social media and the possibility of getting bib money out of elections , At present I agree Money controls our election , reminds me of Honk Kong’s election it is free if you allow (MONEY/COMMUNIST PARTY) to vet all who run
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
I’d take Barney Frank over Hillary. [/quote]
Jesus, you must really hate Hillary. [/quote]
I’d take RogueVampire over Hillary.[/quote]
Push, the funny part is people like Bernie Sanders are going to make Hillary steer even further to the left. This will make her that much more unelectable in a general election. The far left wing of the democratic party is alive and well thanks to their leader Obamawitz. But this only hurts their chance at winning the White House again. Obama didn’t get elected because he was a far left wing nut. He got elected in spite of the fact that he was a far left wing nut.
I’m going to out my predictions right now. Sanders is going to beat Hillary in the primary, and he is going to beat Cruz or Rubio in the General.
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Wow. Sanders is an open, out of the closet social democrat. That would be a tough pill to swallow. [/quote]
Yeah but we’re sliding, and sliding fast in that direction anyway. He says all the “right” things to get people all envious and hating on “rich” people. He plays into the laziness we all have from time to time. Why work for anything when the Bern is just going to hand it to you?
We’re doomed man. The fact that junkies on my facebook page are arguing for socialism should be sign number one it’s a bad idea, but alas, people are dumb as rocks when it comes to economics and will vote off “my feels” rather than their brain.
We’re doomed man, and the Bern is going to torch the remaining bits and pieces.
I’m going to out my predictions right now. Sanders is going to beat Hillary in the primary, and he is going to beat Cruz or Rubio in the General.
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Wow. Sanders is an open, out of the closet social democrat. That would be a tough pill to swallow. [/quote]
Yeah but we’re sliding, and sliding fast in that direction anyway. He says all the “right” things to get people all envious and hating on “rich” people. He plays into the laziness we all have from time to time. Why work for anything when the Bern is just going to hand it to you?
We’re doomed man. The fact that junkies on my facebook page are arguing for socialism should be sign number one it’s a bad idea, but alas, people are dumb as rocks when it comes to economics and will vote off “my feels” rather than their brain.
We’re doomed man, and the Bern is going to torch the remaining bits and pieces. [/quote]
Beans, it took a lefty like Obama to smarten people up. Way back in the day we elected a Jimmy Carter to the Presidency and people were walking around thinking that we were finished. But then Ronald Reagan came riding in from the west and showed once again why capitalism cannot be beaten.
Be of good cheer my friend. We needed Obama to show us what we really don’t want. All we have to do now is elect the right republican and America will be back! Of course I’m not saying there is another Ronald Reagan out there right now. But, you never know we might come closer than anyone thinks.
I’m going to out my predictions right now. Sanders is going to beat Hillary in the primary, and he is going to beat Cruz or Rubio in the General.
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Wow. Sanders is an open, out of the closet social democrat. That would be a tough pill to swallow. [/quote]
Yeah but we’re sliding, and sliding fast in that direction anyway. He says all the “right” things to get people all envious and hating on “rich” people. He plays into the laziness we all have from time to time. Why work for anything when the Bern is just going to hand it to you?
We’re doomed man. The fact that junkies on my facebook page are arguing for socialism should be sign number one it’s a bad idea, but alas, people are dumb as rocks when it comes to economics and will vote off “my feels” rather than their brain.
We’re doomed man, and the Bern is going to torch the remaining bits and pieces. [/quote]
Beans, it took a lefty like Obama to smarten people up. Way back in the day we elected a Jimmy Carter to the Presidency and people were walking around thinking that we were finished. But then Ronald Reagan came riding in from the west and showed once again why capitalism cannot be beaten.
Be of good cheer my friend. We needed Obama to show us what we really don’t want. All we have to do now is elect the right republican and America will be back! Of course I’m not saying there is another Ronald Reagan out there right now. But, you never know we might come closer than anyone thinks.
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