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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Maybe some are illegals but none are detectible . I work nights and drive by the rescue mission 3 times a night . I spends the night driving back and forth through the bad side of PHX . The reality of it is terrible . The last saddest thing I saw was a Black Dad taking care of his child on a Bus Stop bench. When i drove by again the child was sleeping on the side walk and the Dad fell a sleep sitting on the bench , I see a lot of Veterans , you can tell by clothes and gear , see alot of families . It is Real [/quote]

The illegal alien problem is real too. Just ask the man who lost his daughter to a gun shot fired by an illegal alien. And there is far more crime than just that one incident being perpetrated by illegals.

Don’t you ever ask yourself why it’s okay for Obama not to enforce such felonies?

Pretty despicable for a President to allow this to happen.
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All these presidents have wanted cheap labor for big money , Obama is by no means the first [/quote]

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

It’s about two things:

  1. Turning these illegals into eventual democratic votes because Obama is the one who let them enter and stay illegally.

  2. Literally changing the face of America because Obama is a racist and would rather have less white people. Yeah!!
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To your second point, it took a few decades but it worked here in Cali. Whites are officially not the majority anymore, and more than just the ethnic demographic changing, so did the financial demographic.

We have the 3rd highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest welfare rate, and ranked 39th in education. For those think taxing the rich is the answer, well we did that and ended up with all of that ^ above. Some of the worst roads, water pipes nearly 100 years old bursting almost every day, traffic that is obscene, and no water infrastructure construction for 45 years, and a wall of debt over half a trillion. We have gas prices almost $2 more per gallon than other states as well, thank you Cap and Trade.

Cripple a populace, and you can easily control them.[/quote]

…but what good is that if you preside over a pile of shit? maybe I’m missing something?[/quote]

Better to be at the top of a pile of shit than the bottom.
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So, best to be king shit than just shit … makes sense [/quote]

Our quality of life has gone downhill, and that is reflected by our leadership at the top. A leader of any quality would not accept the shit pile that rests before him, a good leader would want to make it better.

But since Obama has no issue with the current shit pile, that shows you the measure of his leadership.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

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It has always been about cheap labor…

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Maybe some are illegals but none are detectible . I work nights and drive by the rescue mission 3 times a night . I spends the night driving back and forth through the bad side of PHX . The reality of it is terrible . The last saddest thing I saw was a Black Dad taking care of his child on a Bus Stop bench. When i drove by again the child was sleeping on the side walk and the Dad fell a sleep sitting on the bench , I see a lot of Veterans , you can tell by clothes and gear , see alot of families . It is Real [/quote]

The illegal alien problem is real too. Just ask the man who lost his daughter to a gun shot fired by an illegal alien. And there is far more crime than just that one incident being perpetrated by illegals.

Don’t you ever ask yourself why it’s okay for Obama not to enforce such felonies?

Pretty despicable for a President to allow this to happen.
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All these presidents have wanted cheap labor for big money , Obama is by no means the first [/quote]

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

It’s about two things:

  1. Turning these illegals into eventual democratic votes because Obama is the one who let them enter and stay illegally.

  2. Literally changing the face of America because Obama is a racist and would rather have less white people. Yeah!!
    [/quote]

To your second point, it took a few decades but it worked here in Cali. Whites are officially not the majority anymore, and more than just the ethnic demographic changing, so did the financial demographic.

We have the 3rd highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest welfare rate, and ranked 39th in education. For those think taxing the rich is the answer, well we did that and ended up with all of that ^ above. Some of the worst roads, water pipes nearly 100 years old bursting almost every day, traffic that is obscene, and no water infrastructure construction for 45 years, and a wall of debt over half a trillion. We have gas prices almost $2 more per gallon than other states as well, thank you Cap and Trade.

Cripple a populace, and you can easily control them.[/quote]

…but what good is that if you preside over a pile of shit? maybe I’m missing something?[/quote]

Better to be at the top of a pile of shit than the bottom.
[/quote]

So, best to be king shit than just shit … makes sense [/quote]

Our quality of life has gone downhill, and that is reflected by our leadership at the top. A leader of any quality would not accept the shit pile that rests before him, a good leader would want to make it better.

But since Obama has no issue with the current shit pile, that shows you the measure of his leadership. [/quote]

Oh I don’t think anyone (of sense) is under the delusion Obama is any kind of leader, regardless of the office in which the people elected him. He’s divisive, it seems, by nature to the very people whom he’s been charged to “lead”. He’s a giant turd without a doubt.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
GWB should’ve PAID $120K to the veterans group in order to do the speech.

The more I think of this the more riled I get. Someone tell me why I shouldn’t be.[/quote]

The organization made a record amount of money that night. I believe the year before the event brought in about $1.4M and the night GWB spoke it brought in $2.5M (both are net figures iirc).

President Bush does a lot for veterans. [/quote]

:slight_smile:

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Oh I don’t think anyone (of sense) is under the delusion Obama is any kind of leader, regardless of the office in which the people elected him. He’s divisive, it seems, by nature to the very people whom he’s been charged to “lead”. He’s a giant turd without a doubt.[/quote]

I am deeply offended by your comparison.

Sincerely,

A Giant Turd

mf

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[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

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It has always been about cheap labor…
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fucking A

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@Zeb

George Carlin on who owns America - YouTube

This is why I will not vote for Hillary and why you should not vote for Bush , they are both members of the same club, waste 3 minutes

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[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

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It has always been about cheap labor…
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So, you’re saying that Obama does not want to turn millions of illegal aliens into democrat voters. You are claiming that he would rather increase corporations profits and that’s why he allows illegal aliens to enter the country.

So he’s putting corporate America’s interests over his parties interests.

Do I have that right?

LOL :wink:

Uh huh

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
@Zeb

This is why I will not vote for Hillary and why you should not vote for Bush , they are both members of the same club, waste 3 minutes [/quote]

Very glad to hear that you will not be voting for Hillary.

I however will support the GOP nominee. Granted I will have to hold my nose if it is Chris Christie. But yeah I will stick to my philosophy that most any republican is better than most any democrat.

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[quote]MudFlap wrote:

My apologies to all the giant turds out there, it’s unfortunate you all are grouped in with such a turd as he…

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

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It has always been about cheap labor…
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So, you’re saying that Obama does not want to turn millions of illegal aliens into democrat voters. You are claiming that he would rather increase corporations profits and that’s why he allows illegal aliens to enter the country.

So he’s putting corporate America’s interests over his parties interests.

Do I have that right?

LOL :wink:

Uh huh[/quote]

I am saying that Obama and ever other elected official; at any level; is beholden to those that purchased their election victory. In today’s environment that is business and banking; regardless of party affiliation. The primary concern is filling labor vacancies and creating consumers. If US citizens were reproducing adequately the situation would be different.

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[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

[/quote]

It has always been about cheap labor…
[/quote]

So, you’re saying that Obama does not want to turn millions of illegal aliens into democrat voters. You are claiming that he would rather increase corporations profits and that’s why he allows illegal aliens to enter the country.

So he’s putting corporate America’s interests over his parties interests.

Do I have that right?

LOL :wink:

Uh huh[/quote]

I am saying that Obama and ever other elected official; at any level; is beholden to those that purchased their election victory. In today’s environment that is business and banking; regardless of party affiliation. The primary concern is filling labor vacancies and creating consumers. If US citizens were reproducing adequately the situation would be different.
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So, you are lumping and grouping all politicians together. Basically generalizing that they are all the same–right?

Not recognizing that there 90+ million Americans unemployed or underemployed.

In addition to this you are not recognizing Obama’s desire to create more democratic voters. In other words to win elections for future democrats.

Think again my friend.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

You’re an idiot if you think it’s about cheap labor.

[/quote]

It has always been about cheap labor…
[/quote]

So, you’re saying that Obama does not want to turn millions of illegal aliens into democrat voters. You are claiming that he would rather increase corporations profits and that’s why he allows illegal aliens to enter the country.

So he’s putting corporate America’s interests over his parties interests.

Do I have that right?

LOL :wink:

Uh huh[/quote]

I am saying that Obama and ever other elected official; at any level; is beholden to those that purchased their election victory. In today’s environment that is business and banking; regardless of party affiliation. The primary concern is filling labor vacancies and creating consumers. If US citizens were reproducing adequately the situation would be different.
[/quote]

So, you are lumping and grouping all politicians together. Basically generalizing that they are all the same–right?

Not recognizing that there 90+ million Americans unemployed or underemployed.

In addition to this you are not recognizing Obama’s desire to create more democratic voters. In other words to win elections for future democrats.

Think again my friend.
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Yes…if we restrict the sample to the last decade or so…there is little difference between them.

If you a little research I suspect you will find the number is actually between 10-30 million.

Future voters are a secondary concern, at most.

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From the chart above, we could easily fix this problem within a 20-25 year period of we deported them all. Keep in mind, this problem did not arise overnight. We did not wake up one morning and say, “holy shit, where did all these illegal aliens come from” ? This happened little by little, and it can be fixed little by little. You can speed up the removal if you remove the perks and go after the employers.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
From the chart above, we could easily fix this problem within a 20-25 year period of we deported them all. Keep in mind, this problem did not arise overnight. We did not wake up one morning and say, “holy shit, where did all these illegal aliens come from” ? This happened little by little, and it can be fixed little by little. You can speed up the removal if you remove the perks and go after the employers. [/quote]

Obama does not want this problem fixed. He helped create the problem. He said he was going to “fundamentally Change America”. What did people think he was talking about? And…why do you fundamentally change something that you love? You don’t!

One of the ways he is doing this is to ensure more democrats get elected to the Presidency. Obama let them in and unless the next Republican President can win them over Obama’s plan will work.

And…as you already know Obama is a racist and allowing more people of color into the country lowers the white population.

Two reasons he did it —Just two!

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"…So, you are lumping and grouping all politicians together. Basically generalizing that they are all the same…right…?

Their rhetoric? No.

Their actions/ultimate end results? Yes

Mufasa

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
From the chart above, we could easily fix this problem within a 20-25 year period of we deported them all. Keep in mind, this problem did not arise overnight. We did not wake up one morning and say, “holy shit, where did all these illegal aliens come from” ? This happened little by little, and it can be fixed little by little. You can speed up the removal if you remove the perks and go after the employers. [/quote]

Obama does not want this problem fixed. He helped create the problem. He said he was going to “fundamentally Change America”. What did people think he was talking about? And…why do you fundamentally change something that you love? You don’t!

One of the ways he is doing this is to ensure more democrats get elected to the Presidency. Obama let them in and unless the next Republican President can win them over Obama’s plan will work.

And…as you already know Obama is a racist and allowing more people of color into the country lowers the white population.

Two reasons he did it —Just two![/quote]

2 nights ago, there was a townhall meeting about Sanctuary City policies which I attended. There were a couple sheriffs from different cities, and an ICE agent, who basically all spewed the same shit.

As people against illegal immigration bitched and moaned, the sheriffs stood up and said, “hey, if you guys don’t like the law, then you need to vote to change the laws.” After a few seconds of silence, I stood up and mentioned how we already voted and laws were passed. In 1996, Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act, where it says that local authorities SHALL cooperate with the Feds on immigration. A thundering applause had the cops and ICE agent silent, as they lost the legal argument on the issue.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
From the chart above, we could easily fix this problem within a 20-25 year period of we deported them all. Keep in mind, this problem did not arise overnight. We did not wake up one morning and say, “holy shit, where did all these illegal aliens come from” ? This happened little by little, and it can be fixed little by little. You can speed up the removal if you remove the perks and go after the employers. [/quote]

Obama does not want this problem fixed. He helped create the problem. He said he was going to “fundamentally Change America”. What did people think he was talking about? And…why do you fundamentally change something that you love? You don’t!

One of the ways he is doing this is to ensure more democrats get elected to the Presidency. Obama let them in and unless the next Republican President can win them over Obama’s plan will work.

And…as you already know Obama is a racist and allowing more people of color into the country lowers the white population.

Two reasons he did it —Just two![/quote]

2 nights ago, there was a townhall meeting about Sanctuary City policies which I attended. There were a couple sheriffs from different cities, and an ICE agent, who basically all spewed the same shit.

As people against illegal immigration bitched and moaned, the sheriffs stood up and said, “hey, if you guys don’t like the law, then you need to vote to change the laws.” After a few seconds of silence, I stood up and mentioned how we already voted and laws were passed. In 1996, Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act, where it says that local authorities SHALL cooperate with the Feds on immigration. A thundering applause had the cops and ICE agent silent, as they lost the legal argument on the issue. [/quote]

Good for you Max.

Also, “if we don’t like the laws?”

Where is that crap coming from?

Last time I checked those people are ILLEGAL aliens…yet Obama doesn’t obey that law does he?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
From the chart above, we could easily fix this problem within a 20-25 year period of we deported them all. Keep in mind, this problem did not arise overnight. We did not wake up one morning and say, “holy shit, where did all these illegal aliens come from” ? This happened little by little, and it can be fixed little by little. You can speed up the removal if you remove the perks and go after the employers. [/quote]

those pesky lil Mexicans have been sneaking across the border since the beginning of time:)