I would kindly ask that any liberal on this forum please explain to me in their own words why the redistribution of wealth is a good thing for the economy and well being of man. I am refferring to the general concept of, and would like to hear your views on the current methods of attempting this by our government with things like welfare, food stamps, ACA and more. Do you think these methods work and why? Do you see flaw? What would you change and why? Why should the economy trickle up instead of down?
I would also kindly ask that other conservatives respect their position and keep this FLAME FREE. I consider myself a free market capitalist, and I am geniunly curious to the answers here, not to berate or demean, but to understand their point of view so please let’s keep it clean.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It is not simply redistribution it is actually Re-redistribution [/quote]
Please explain, I am not following that line of thought. [/quote]
Pitt thinks the middle class had been robbed by the wealthy over the past few decades so redistributing wealth is just giving the middle class back what is rightfully theirs.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Yes you are right . [/quote]
How have they been robbed by the rich and how would taking money from people who were not the original ones who presumably took it make it right in that sense?
Are you also saying that redistribution of wealth serves no purpose other than perceived retribution?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Yes you are right . [/quote]
How has the middle class been robbed by the wealthy? They might be getting robbed but its not by the wealthy; it is by the government to take care of societal leaches that serve no purpose but to increase the burden on the rest of us.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Yes you are right . [/quote]
How has the middle class been robbed by the wealthy? They might be getting robbed but its not by the wealthy; it is by the government to take care of societal leaches that serve no purpose but to increase the burden on the rest of us.[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Yes you are right . [/quote]
How has the middle class been robbed by the wealthy? They might be getting robbed but its not by the wealthy; it is by the government to take care of societal leaches that serve no purpose but to increase the burden on the rest of us.[/quote]
policy , it started with Reagan
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Who are you defining as the wealthy? And as I said, how have they robbed the poor? Reagan policy doesn’t really answer that question. And how is that any different than taxing the middle and upper class at a higher rate than lower class, while simultaneously giving those tax dollars to the lower class in the form of entitlement programs? Isnt that the government trying to play a twisted version of Robin Hood?
these are a couple places to start if you want to know my opinions
The loss of freedom is huge and because private enterprise demands UNREASONABLE searches and seizures it is OK . Some how America went from being a Government that takes the best from all forms of Government now We are a crony capitalistic society
Every one wants a free market . Believe it or not so do I . Every one thinks I should except half of it . I don’t because the half that is being offered is the half that does not benefit me (THE MIDDLE CLASS) It benefits the wealthy
these are a couple places to start if you want to know my opinions
The loss of freedom is huge and because private enterprise demands UNREASONABLE searches and seizures it is OK . Some how America went from being a Government that takes the best from all forms of Government now We are a crony capitalistic society
Every one wants a free market . Believe it or not so do I . Every one thinks I should except half of it . I don’t because the half that is being offered is the half that does not benefit me (THE MIDDLE CLASS) It benefits the wealthy
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Pitbull, have you ever read the Grunch of Giants by Bunkmister Fuller?
these are a couple places to start if you want to know my opinions
The loss of freedom is huge and because private enterprise demands UNREASONABLE searches and seizures it is OK . Some how America went from being a Government that takes the best from all forms of Government now We are a crony capitalistic society
Every one wants a free market . Believe it or not so do I . Every one thinks I should except half of it . I don’t because the half that is being offered is the half that does not benefit me (THE MIDDLE CLASS) It benefits the wealthy
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Pitbull, have you ever read the Grunch of Giants by Bunkmister Fuller? [/quote]
these are a couple places to start if you want to know my opinions
The loss of freedom is huge and because private enterprise demands UNREASONABLE searches and seizures it is OK . Some how America went from being a Government that takes the best from all forms of Government now We are a crony capitalistic society
Every one wants a free market . Believe it or not so do I . Every one thinks I should except half of it . I don’t because the half that is being offered is the half that does not benefit me (THE MIDDLE CLASS) It benefits the wealthy
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Pitbull, have you ever read the Grunch of Giants by Bunkmister Fuller? [/quote]
no ,is it good ?
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Very. Not an easy read though. Goes into the history and questions the philosophy of how we ended up like this, with invisible private entities ruling us like the Fed, banks, governments etc. Its what I always think of when people talk about how the middle class have been robbed, because it was not “the rich” who did it, but rather the “Grunch”.
these are a couple places to start if you want to know my opinions
The loss of freedom is huge and because private enterprise demands UNREASONABLE searches and seizures it is OK . Some how America went from being a Government that takes the best from all forms of Government now We are a crony capitalistic society
Every one wants a free market . Believe it or not so do I . Every one thinks I should except half of it . I don’t because the half that is being offered is the half that does not benefit me (THE MIDDLE CLASS) It benefits the wealthy
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Pitbull, have you ever read the Grunch of Giants by Bunkmister Fuller? [/quote]
no ,is it good ?
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Very. Not an easy read though. Goes into the history and questions the philosophy of how we ended up like this, with invisible private entities ruling us like the Fed, banks, governments etc. Its what I always think of when people talk about how the middle class have been robbed, because it was not “the rich” who did it, but rather the “Grunch”.
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I will try and remember it when I am looking for my next book
Isnt that the government trying to play a twisted version of Robin Hood?[/quote]
The story of a group of people that robbed from a tyrannical corrupt government and gave it back to the oppressed people who had their property stolen in the first place.
Funny how that story has been twisted to replace “government” with “rich people” huh?
