Also walkaway, can you explain the symptoms you were having with taking too much dnp and the beginning stages of organ failure? Thats crazy lol
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-projectile vomiting (until I was injected with antiemetic)
-resting heart rate 140
-hallucinations
-blood pressure 60/30
-convulsions
-felt like I had been stabbed in the stomach (pancreatitis)
-profuse sweating
-loss of hearing
-temperature of 103.6
-severe hyperventilation (about 60 breaths a minute)
-shoulders stung when I moved my arms (rhabdo)
had 2 needles in each arm. they anchored one in my hand and gave me over 20 shots in that vein.
I suppose dnp is kind of like slin. Both are not very dangerous as long as you know what youre doing. But if you dont, you can wind up pretty fucked up or dead in extreme cases. Whereas steroids you might end up with some gyno and or a limp dick.
Probably nothing new or important to you vets, but today I got some blood in the pin while aspirating. No big deal, pull out and tried again. But that messed up my psyc I almost passed out from being light headed. Crappy thing is I was in the middle of pushing the oil down when the anxiety hit. Next time if I get an unsuccessful pin (blood gets drawn) I’ll just wait for 15 minutes before another injection. Or have breakfast before I pin (low blood sugar most likely had played its nasty role here). Live and learn.
5 days ago I injected in my leg my TRT dose of T. It still hurts, when I touch the area where I’ve pinned, I can feel a bump about 3" in diameter. Also this area seems to be alot warmer compared to the same area on the other leg. No change in color of the skin. What could it be? An abscess?
EDIT: Forgot one detail, don’t know if this is even relevant. I pinned in the morning and had a leg day in the afternoon.
[quote]CrazyDude wrote:
5 days ago I injected in my leg my TRT dose of T. It still hurts, when I touch the area where I’ve pinned, I can feel a bump about 3" in diameter. Also this area seems to be alot warmer compared to the same area on the other leg. No change in color of the skin. What could it be? An abscess?
EDIT: Forgot one detail, don’t know if this is even relevant. I pinned in the morning and had a leg day in the afternoon.[/quote]
Jabbing like a dart alright, not my first BBQ I do injections with all proper safety techniques. Swab hand and the ampule with alcohol before opening and drawing oil. Prep the area for injection etc… etc… One thing is that I’ve used a slin pin that was backfilled and was stored in locked drawer for 3 days. I pin E3D 0.5 ml of Omnadren-250.
That is so weird. I never had a problem pinning in the ass, but with legs - first it is a bit painful to me then this shit is happening. I am not as lean as I’d like to be, so With slin pin I could have deposited oil SQ.
I’ve read that one can hit a lymph node and it could be quite unpleasant for a while.
One more thing. The “lump” doesn’t hurt when not touching it. So, most likely it is not an abscess (hopefully). Any tips with what I can do to make it go away?
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
I have yet to experience any bumps or lumps from pinning. What are you guys doing? Jabbing the pin in like a dart?[/quote]
I’ve had a lump in my delt for a little while where a shot got really inflamed. It was a combination of using a massive pin and really thick oil. Pretty sure I hit a tendon.
It’s not such a big deal, it’s shrinking, albeit very slowly, and there’s no unpleasantness so it’s not an abscess.
It actually makes the lateral delt look amazing when I flex! haha
Lump on my leg is coming down. Few more days and hopefully it is gonna be gone. I truly miss leg days (decided not to work quads while something isn’t right with the leg).
Got blood work done. Before reading all the stuff here on TRT forum I never bothered checking E2. It was through the roof. Last month it was 65.1, after incorporating Anastrozole 0.25mg EOD I managed to bring it down to 50.6. Still a long way to go. Increased dosage to 0.5mg EOD. Will see in a month what would it do.
Prolactin 15.3ng/ml seems to be on high end. Not sure if I need to play with caber at this point. Added B6 to my regimen. Will see if it makes a difference.
Currently injecting Test 200/w and HCG 250 E3D.
Still loosing weight … need to get at least down to 18%bf before kicking in the high gear (pun intended). Meanwhile I think I’ve nailed down what the cycle would look like.
Goal = recomp. Nothing drastic - drop 3% bf and pack up 10lbs of meat. Any extras are welcome LOL
Length = 8 weeks.
W1-2 DBol 50mg ED (kickstart)
W2-8 Winny 50mg ED
W1-8 Test E 200/w. E3D
W1-8 Tren E 400/w. E3D
W1,2,6,7 Clen
HGH ramp up from 2iu to 10iu E3D IM
HCG 250iu E3D
Anastrozole 0.5mg EOD (adjust as needed E2 target = 22)
Caber and Tamox on hand
Diet: pretty much my current cutting diet with a few modifications:
Squat and Deadlift days are high carb days.
The rest of the days carbs taken only for breakfast and preworkout.
Calories will be adjusted as if I already have 15-20lbs more of lean muscle. Maybe this approach is crap, so please set me straight.
Questions:
Does it make sense to ramp up Tren say from 200/w or is it pointless because of the Enth ester?
I am still considering bumping Tren dose to 500/w. Does it make a big difference from 400/w? If it is only marginal, I’ll drop this idea and stick with how I have it at 400/w.
[quote]joyfull wrote:
walkway i was reading through your posts and saw you had multiple organ failure last year. sorry to hear that man. do you mind giving details? was it bodybuilding related?
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on a DNP run, I worked my way up to 7 capsules day (250mg crystal). im not sure how I was able to achieve this dose without dying, as DNP accumulates in your system due to the half life. also, I was losing weight rapidly.
so, the concentration of DNP was increasing, while my body weight was decreasing. I achieved this dose after about 1.5 months of running DNP and gradually increasing how much I took. I only ran this amount for about a week before I stopped, however.
later that year, I decided to run DNP again, and, not being the type of person who likes to wait, I jumped immediately into using 7 dnp/daily. this landed me in the ER.
the doctors told me that I was suffering multiple organ failure, but the fact that everything bounced back within a week of leaving the ER makes me believe otherwise.
I would never recommend anyone use over 1g of DNP a day… [/quote]
That’s scary man, glad to hear you’re okay. A kid I met at my gym went full yellow and his liver failed he told me he was using the pro hormone Metha-quad (4 compound blackstone product) test and tren, no organ sups didn’t even know his doses…
Figured out what the hell was that with the lump and pain etc… Just for the heck of it I intentionally injected Test with 0.5" slin pin in my glutes. Same effect. Got the same lump on my butt and it hurt like hell for several looooong days. At least now I know that SQ is not the best way for me to inject Test.
ah! crap! my HGH supplier had folded. Returned the money though. Now I am back to the drawing board.
Since I have time before the cycle I will keep looking for HGH source, however this had me started thinking about the fallback plan involving peptides.
So far my research led me to believe that both GHRP and GHRH are needed to simulate nice GH pulse.
GHRP-6 is a no go for me because it’ll create hunger urge, that would defeat the purpose of the recomp cycle. So it is either GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin. Ipamorelin looks good because it doesn’t have much affect on prolactin, which is going to be a factor for me because of Tren.
As far as GHRH I it looks like CJC1295 w/o DAC is the winner.
Please tell me if Ipamorelin + 1295 would work nicely for recomp/fatloss purpose, or there is a better soup I should be preparing?
[quote]CrazyDude wrote:
ah! crap! my HGH supplier had folded. Returned the money though. Now I am back to the drawing board.
Since I have time before the cycle I will keep looking for HGH source, however this had me started thinking about the fallback plan involving peptides.
So far my research led me to believe that both GHRP and GHRH are needed to simulate nice GH pulse.
GHRP-6 is a no go for me because it’ll create hunger urge, that would defeat the purpose of the recomp cycle. So it is either GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin. Ipamorelin looks good because it doesn’t have much affect on prolactin, which is going to be a factor for me because of Tren.
As far as GHRH I it looks like CJC1295 w/o DAC is the winner.
Please tell me if Ipamorelin + 1295 would work nicely for recomp/fatloss purpose, or there is a better soup I should be preparing?[/quote]
good on your supplier for returning the money.
having said that, I have had decent results with ghrp6 and cjc no dac (aka mod grf) at about 200/100mcg split 3-4x per day.
I have heard good things about hexarelin and cjc no dac, may be worth looking into.
peptide regulations are coming down the chute, so get 'em while you still can.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
having said that, I have had decent results with ghrp6 and cjc no dac (aka mod grf) at about 200/100mcg split 3-4x per day.
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How manageable was the hunger attack from GHRP-6?
I take 200/100mcg is per day split in multiple doses?
as far as Hex goes I’ve read it is the most powerful release peptide, but it is also the worst when it comes down to prolactin and cortisol. on top of that it looks like it causes supression. Not sure what they meant by that - natural GH release supression or HPTA. If it is HPTA I am not too worried about it, I am on TRT anyways. But if it is supressing natural GH release, i think I’ll pass.
[quote]CrazyDude wrote:
ah! crap! my HGH supplier had folded. Returned the money though. Now I am back to the drawing board.
Since I have time before the cycle I will keep looking for HGH source, however this had me started thinking about the fallback plan involving peptides.
So far my research led me to believe that both GHRP and GHRH are needed to simulate nice GH pulse.
GHRP-6 is a no go for me because it’ll create hunger urge, that would defeat the purpose of the recomp cycle. So it is either GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin. Ipamorelin looks good because it doesn’t have much affect on prolactin, which is going to be a factor for me because of Tren.
As far as GHRH I it looks like CJC1295 w/o DAC is the winner.
Please tell me if Ipamorelin + 1295 would work nicely for recomp/fatloss purpose, or there is a better soup I should be preparing?[/quote]
good on your supplier for returning the money.
having said that, I have had decent results with ghrp6 and cjc no dac (aka mod grf) at about 200/100mcg split 3-4x per day.
I have heard good things about hexarelin and cjc no dac, may be worth looking into.
peptide regulations are coming down the chute, so get 'em while you still can. [/quote]
Ok. The cycle has officially started on Monday. As planned for the first 2 weeks I am taking 50mg Dbol as a kickstart. Never tried it, but damn! I like it. Now I understand what others have been talking about never wanting to stop Dbol … haha
Anyways, I was planning to pin in quads and glutes… I always have trouble pinning in quads, this time is no diff. Hit the mofo nerve, and swore not to touch my quads again until I watch some more videos on how to do it properly.
Just for reference I have platinum british dragon tri-tren 500. For the 400mg/w I use ~30ml E3D. Question: a day after my first pin now for a couple of days I notice slight/moderate and quite annoying metallic taste in my mouth. Should I be concerned? I’ve read about tren having this “side” but nowhere it was said that it is OK. To rule the keto out, I am cycling carbs (apx 1/3 high/low carb days depending what day it is in the gym). Liver tests a months ago were OK too, and I am taking milk tisle. So it most likely tren.
added tamox 10mg for a cople of days now. no change. tits still hurt.
I am guessing it is prolactin.
tomorrow morning going to test blood for both prolactin and E2.
I do injections with all proper safety techniques. Swab hand and the ampule with alcohol before opening and drawing oil. Prep the area for injection etc… etc… One thing is that I’ve used a slin pin that was backfilled and was stored in locked drawer for 3 days. I pin E3D 0.5 ml of Omnadren-250.