I won’t argue with you man. Leave that shit for your FB friends. I stand by what I said.
One question though, regarding the above quote…
Are you the pot…or the kettle?
Incorrect I regularly refer men to doctors O’Connor, Jordan grant; Jeffery rutherbusch and tier1. Including others I have found. If someone is local to any of these doctors, I give them Their contact info . My closest friend here in Houston was referred to a doctor in Texas (Jordan grant) because he won’t fly out it town to see my doctor. My soon to be fiancé is being referred to my doctor because her needs are different. I won’t lie I will suggest my doctor first if I think they are willing to go the distance to do his right . Yet I don’t run around saying choose him choose him.
Why? Because they all keep it simple. The understanding of estrogen is in depth with these doctors. Including DHT and other facets of how hormones work. They also have a clear understanding of thyroid medication; they understand toxins and how they effect dosing protocols; they understand edc, how beneficial estrogen is for men. They have spent hours researching and trying to understand how this pertains to the men on hrt. I do not see this info pouring out of clinics. How many patients who work wirh my doctor do you see posting regularly on this forum asking for guidance and help: alternatively how many patients or clinics and other doctors do we see? Night and day.
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Doctor oconner even released a video recently that shows the effect ai have on men. A new doc whose turning the tide in terms of estrogen. A doctor who helps body builders specifically. He clearly said this will cause heart attacks and joint issues and more. It should be used short term. I now send his info to patients in his area.
Defy patients use defy as a source for prescriptions. The doctors I use are not a source for scripts. They are a source for health and preventative and cutting edge hormone therapy. You walk in and trust the doctor to guide and manage your hrt. You walk out with faith in their ability and live your life knowing you have someone that is being proactive.
Stop taking my words and think I have some investment in sending patients to tier1. I suggest doctors based on men’s needs. Sure he’s my favorite doctor, but I have options for all my internet friends. I don’t get a kick back every time someone sees him. I just get a bunch of thank your from the patient. Their lives turn around and they stop complaining and worrying about every little piece of their health on forums.
For this gentlemen he could use the services of tier1 simply because of his history. Tier1 is the most advanced doctor out there and other doctors see him as the leading authority. He has had high SHBG. He needs a doc who understands why he needs a high dose. His rt3 is high. His doctor wants it give him t3 once a day . This means he will wake up feeling worse and it will never be enough. On top of that he has a small dose to start wirh since he’s not getting any t4, which stays in the system long term.
Blah blah blah.
It’s screwed up that one must have to ask for the doctor to fix this problem. Enough money is spent to where the doctor should of already been involved if the patient was not being treated. Instead you have to specifically ask for a doctor to get on the call?
This is backwards to me.
You are both Brady. You jump in and stir the pot. Listen to yourself.
My Facebook friends? What are you trying to do here. I barely use Facebook. I use this forum more than facebag. I don’t frequent danny bosses group because I left that group. I don’t even have time for it.
Again you are misconstruing and twisting who I am, why I say, and what I am trying to do.
Again, I stand by what I said. And I meant it.
Good luck. You continue promoting defy and I’ll continue promoting what I think is a good option.
@enackers @bmbrady77 I know you have a few differences of opinion, but I’m deeply appreciative of both of you. You’ve been the two biggest helps for me on any forum and genuinely know more about this subject than any medical provider I’ve seen (which is a lot!).
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Thank you and good luck to you as well brother.
Thank you for the sentiment brother, but you really shouldn’t give me that much credit.
You should really consider thinking before you speak. I spend at least 2 hours with every new patient. We don’t want to be Defy. Do you have any idea how many Defy patients I see. Everyone is treated as a individual. We limit who we see because I am actively involved in treating men and women along with conducting research. In my practice every single man deals with me and only me. They have open access to me and I personally answer every one or their questions on the same day 99% of the time. Never more than 24 hours. Get that from Defy if you can. I had to limit my practice to over 30 because Our focus is on middle aged men and women. So from now on before you mention my name try thinking first
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Apology accepted. You have so much to learn. Do you see any of my patients whining on forums? Do you ? Do you see any of my patients asking for your advice? If anything they are trying to teach and give advice. You have no idea what it is like to sit down with a provider and have them present the medical literature to you and explain HRT in detail. Our patients are family and we don’t want to be a Defy medical. When I can’t deal directly with everyone of my patients personally when they have a question I will close the practice. I refuse to hire PAs or nurse practioners. I do it all myself. So before you open your mouth again make sure you have done your research and have your facts straight
Thanks for helping me clarify the difference. 100% correct that your patients teach and spread knowledge not complain of issues and search for solutions. A night and day difference. Not a beat down on defy, just a totally different business.
I thought very clearly before making that post. My thoughts were expressed rather clearly.
I have no argument with you or your little lacky. I do take issues however to your arrogant ass attitude, and the arrogance of those who seem to speak on your behalf.
You are one hell of a dr and I have heard nothing but good things about your practice.
As to your person, at least as it pertains to your online presence on these forums, you have MUCH to learn asshole.
The little coward you are online. Tough guy behind a computer. Come visit me anytime
Your “clearly thinking” tells us all we need to know about your limited mental capacity.
The invitation is reciprocated. Look me up anytime you are anywhere near Missoula Montana. My email is in my profile.
I’ll buy you a beer.
One thing you will learn about me doc, I never say anything that I don’t have full intentions of backing up fully.
Post a picture of yourself so we can see the testosterone guru you seem to think you are
There are several pictures of me on this forum.
And who in the FUCK ever said I was a Testosterone guru? Now you are showing your ignorance along with your arrogance. I have never made any such claims, and even went as far to distance myself from any comments from others on here that say anything praiseworthy of me. I know NOTHING compared to most people here.
Guru?!! Hell I’m not even a pimple on your ass when it comes to TRT and I’ve never claimed any different. I am however, a man and I am a man that won’t be talked to like a fucking idiot or a child.
If the shoe fits wear it man child. You and people like you hurt men by promoting bro science and ignorance. You make our jobs harder. Get in the gym, play with your kids, spend time with your wife and family, and focus on work. Quit spouting shit about me and my practice on forums. I surf them
Just so I can identify people like you. Expect to be called out on your BS. Would you like to discuss literature?
Cmon now doc. Now I think you’re just trying to piss me off. Man child? Lmao
I sincerely think you should consider an AI. Not only has the estrogen fucked you up emotionally, it’s affected your reading comprehension as well.
Spouting shit huh?
Instead of fucking up this thread any further with yours and my bullshit, if you want to continue this offline…again…
My email is in my profile.
Oh amazing. He’s an asshole? You are being very arrogant Brady. You jump in complaining and stirring the pot only to force my hand to defend my suggestion. You run around the facts as to why I made the suggestion and Refuse to open your mind nor stand corrected. Now yeti is an asshole… right… In my book the guy who stirs the pot and then refuses to read the answers is the Ahole.
Now I’m a lacky. Right. Listen to yourself.