Realistic TRT Recomp Progress

Yah give it time as always and I bet it’ll all level out.

So CBD and melatonin together in a pill or desperate pills? I have CBD .

What else I have is some THC and that works like a charm every time. Jsut can’t smoke allot. Maybe one bit and I’m able to sleep.

What’s odd though is I’ve been waking up middle of the night. I’m thinking I need to get a solution for that. I tried the nasal openers but those suck. Maybe I need cpap .

THC affects REM sleep. Besides that I listened to an amazing podcast on Joe Rogan that really opened my eyes about my sleep issues and things that cause it. Definitely a must-hear for anyone having problems with sleep. Plus it’s such a good podcast you’ll hate that it ends.

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Will do thanks

Was this the one where he says booze and weed both affect sleep in the same way keeping you from actually getting fully rested?

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Did you ever try or hear about the dspm peptide. Can’t rmemebe exact name; but it has helped many sleep deep and cure narcolepsy and so forth.

Yes it does

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Yeah. He said they help you fall asleep faster but the actual sleep is worse because you don’t actually enter REM sleep.

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Yes it was a fascinating podcast.

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Thanks, @dextermorgan – that podcast was amazing from start to finish. Definitely a must-listen. I never realized getting 7-9 hours per night was so important. Also, it didn’t really dissuade me from using exogenous melatonin – I expected he’d be against that, so that was surprising. I wish he had covered CBD but this interview took place before it really boomed in the consumer marketplace.

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I started using some broad spectrum CBD oil last week. Havent noticed anything yet.

Oh yeah? I’ve never tried the oil. A company sent me some CBD + melatonin and it works amazingly well; it’s given me incredible sleep every time I’ve used it. I also got some of their morning formula but didn’t feel anything noticeable when I tried it.

This is just straight oil in a dropper for sublingual use. I use it in the AM after my tyrosine regimen. .

My sleep this week has been incredible. (It had been brutal the week before, with me only getting 3-4 hours per night and feeling like shit all day.) I can’t say for sure what’s caused it (classic TRT case of too many variables), but the change does coincide with the introduction of Ipamorelin in place of Ibutamoren. I know growth hormone is closely related to sleep, so this could be the game-changer. I’ve been taking 50 IU each evening of Ipa right before bed.

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Another thing that changed at the same time: I decided to take a break from preworkout. I’ve just been having coffee before lifting. Granted, I work out in the AM, so I have no idea if preworkout could actually be affecting my sleep, but there’s a chance. I’d definitely bet it’s more due to the Ipamorelin before bed, though.

If you workout in the morning your pwo should be cleared long before bedtime. Caffeine would be the most obvious culprit if it was your pwo, and it only takes the body 4-6 hours to clear caffeine. I doubt this is effecting sleep.

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Thanks, brother – good to know! I’m happy to welcome it back, lol.

I started seeing a chiropractor last week and have had 2 appointments so far. He’s a good dude – has a sports background, which I like, and doesn’t do the whole “whack em and crack em” chiropractor thing. We mostly talk about corrective exercises and he uses the Activator Adjusting Instrument on my neck/back, as I’m too tight/tense for manual adjustments to do anything.

He’s of the mentality that, if I have no plans of ever competing in bodybuilding, I shouldn’t be focusing on isolating muscle groups, which he thinks is contributing (along with sitting at a desk much of the day) to my tightness and just feeling rigid. He thinks I should be aiming to maintain my current physique (he says the “Marine Body” is what to strive for) and focusing on mobility/fluidity of movement, de-emphasizing putting on size.

Obviously this is completely a matter of personal opinion, but I’d love to hear from some of the older guys here. I’m 28, want to be fit and athletic at an old age, but also care about aesthetics (though I have no desire to be a mass monster). Health/longevity/feeling good is the biggest priority, though.

What would you tell your 28-year-old self in this situation?

I agree that you should work on maintaining mobility but disagree that you can’t put on size while doing that. Not sure if I understand his thought process on not isolating muscle groups. Is he saying only focus on “functional” strength type stuff?

If I was to go back when I was 28 I would like to tell myself to add in stretching and maintaining range of motion. Something I need to do more of now but only seem to get myself to when I am hurting somewhere.

Are you building unbalances in your body by working certain muscle groups more than others? Maybe that’s what he means?

Um, have you seen jujimufu move? You CAN have it all.