Realistic TRT Recomp Progress

I actually posed this question to @Frank_C and @jackolee a couple days ago. I was concerned that going too low with fat would be an issue. As I see it, though, I’m still hitting the baseline “threshold,” and I’m also getting my T exogenously. I do think fat is more important if you don’t have external T coming into your system. I also probably ate way too much fat for a period of 2-3 years as a result of following keto, which I think is what jacked up my hormones (or at least played a big role in it) in the first place. So my body might actually need a “reset” like this. I will say I’m feeling great!

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Glad to hear you’re feeling great. I used to feel like death getting into the 1800’s for calories during my cuts. That being said, I probably had low testosterone during those times and working out in addition to cutting probably f’d me up good. Did you say you were about 6’2”?

Small meals and high protein has been big for me. IF did not work as well because I’d get ravenous and then binge; and my energy would fluctuate a lot. Right now, I’m steady. What type of dieting protocol were you following?

Yeah, man, that will f up everything! So glad to be getting my system fixed, though I’m far from there. Just happy to be on this path and know what was causing my issues.

Contrary to what our basketball announcer used to say (6’6")…yes, 6’2" is much more accurate!

I was doing “larger” meals, 3-4 times a day, high protein/moderate carbs/incidental fat. What you’re doing is probably way more beneficial for satiety. I’d will myself not to eat after those meals, mentally beating my appetite into submission, not healthy mentally or physically lol.

I’m 6’1” myself, it’s been a battle filling out this frame, as I’m sure you know. I respect everyone who packs on mass but I reserve a special kind of respect for those who are exceptionally tall and massive as well.

Yeah, I don’t think that would work well for me either. 2 meals/day definitely didn’t! This approach has been awesome.

Totally hear you. Uphill battle. Highly recommend checking out @Frank_C’s thread if you haven’t already. He’s gotten massive and lean at 6’4". https://t-nation.com/t/jmaier31-tries-a-bro-split

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Appreciate the shout out! @jpt365, you’re welcome to drop in and out of my log any time you want. It might be in the Training Log section but it’s definitely open to any topic. I’ll warn you now, it’s long! I have days like the past couple where there’s a lot of discussion and before you know it there are 50 new posts.

To help you skip a lot of old stuff, I bulked from Jan 1 - Oct 31st last year. I’ve been cutting since then with the exception of about a one month break during April because I was becoming too obsessive and driving my wife nuts.

I’ve officially been training like a bodybuilder for 14 weeks now, so you could start there if you’re curious about my training. I stopped logging my food but I track everything in My Fitness Pal so I have lots of data if you have any questions about my journey.

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I’ll check it out man, thanks!

Lol I’ve been there, glad I’m not the only one!

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What’s your typical protein consumption - in excess of 200?

I’ve been eating 200-220g on average. I already drink a lot of my protein so I’ve never tried to push it past 1g/lb of bodyweight.

I’ve reset my goals at 250g protein and 200g carbs based on our discussion with Jack in here. I’m just curious how it’ll affect me but I haven’t hit my goal yet. I’ve kept carbs down but missed my protein goal.

How much of it do you drink? I usually have 1-2 shakes per day.

Breakfast has become a double protein shake and a banana most days. It’s not uncommon for me to have another shake later in the day.

Yesterday I had six scoops of protein powder before my disgusting dinner. I think I drink more protein shakes because I ran into some dirt cheap stuff and I’ve had a stockpile of it. It might change once that runs out.

Do you have a favorite brand? I’m preferential to True Nutrition (chocolate fudge brownie).

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Optimum Nutrition and Dymatize Elite is what I’ve been drinking lately.

Once that runs out I’m not sure what I’ll buy. I’ve also been drinking a lot of Iso Driven vegan protein. I got it for my wife but it’s not bad. I’ve done some research on the vegan stuff and the pea and rice blends are good in terms of getting a complete protein profile.

Fat is needed for the protein and vitamins to be absorbed into the body. Per Eric Serrano

I’ll have to listen again, but that is what I’ve heard mny times. Fats are needed for gut health. Jsut chomp those avacafoa down.

I know you are flexing, but you look way more jacked,muscular and vascular in the pic from 18 days ago vs the one from 3 days ago.

I just ordered another 6lbs of their Toasted Coconut. Three lbs LC and 3 lbs PWO.

@bkb333
I just skimmed through the last 30 days or so that I have been missing … I only saw labs that showed your SHBG down to 114. Did I miss more labs?

At 114, your free T% is not going to be where you wanted it. What have you decided about danazol at the current dose or increasing it?

Not me man.

Sorry … I can’t believe I tagged the wrong person.

@bkb333
My post was meant for you.

Definitely. That’s a result of having eaten before (I always take the mirror selfies first thing in the morning), having a pump, and flexing.