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I’d eat my left testicle before doing that. It’s been probably 17 years since I last had McDonalds :rofl:

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It was that or eat nothing at all…

I don’t mind it actually, Australian maccas isn’t bad, isn’t greasy/oily at all (I’ve found in America McDonald’s tends to be very oily, everything feels as if it’s covered in greasy, and touching the food leaves traces of oil on you’re hands). In Aus (same goes for KFC), this isn’t the case, makes the food less offputting

Still terrible for you though… tis processed, preserved, fried in lard etc

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Makes sense. One of many reasons i mentioned I don’t travel. Hate to be in a pinch. I eat the same foods every day, and almost the exact same times every day. :rofl:

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I like pizza, but I prefer fried chicken or sushi… those are probably two of my favourite foods

My favourite by far has got to be Malva Pudding, I’d talk about it however I went through a phase on here where all my posts somehow managed to relate to malva pudding wherein Chris (forum leader) reprimanded me for it… so I’ll stop here

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Modern science tells a totally different story and the the science is against you. I know its very difficult for you to understand and I’m not going to waste any time trying to get through to you. You obviously feel confident in your position so continue with whatever it is that your doing but save your sarcasm. Its amazing watching peoples reactions to a simple “way of eating” that goes against their current understanding. Science is changing and what you have been taught about nutrition is wrong. Try and look at it from both sides. I was very skeptical in the beginning and listened to all the arguments for and against. Anyways have a great day guys.

I apologise, the intent wasn’t to be sarcastic. Perhaps there is something to cyclic keto. I could see it being a very proficient way to make small, yet noticable accruals in lean mass over time while stripping fat off/while keeping fat gain nil to minimal… BUT, I also feel as if it’s quite a bit of work, and to make optimal accruals in muscular mass (for me at least) a steady stream of carbohydrates is required.

I’ve tried keto, it made me irritable, tired all the time etc. Perhaps I wasn’t doing it right, but given that I can train and gain mass with my regular diet, I think “why fix what isn’t broken”

My mcdonalds comments weren’t sarcasm, I apologise if you saw it that way, I was merely going off on a tangent

Does it affect strength in the gym (say if you were to be training powerlifting style… would you say you’ve managed to maintain/gain strength continually)

I’m not going to say “it doesn’t work”… I mean… look at you, you’re physique is incredibly impressive

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@aaronca @alldayeveryday

I plan to do strict Keto for 2-3 months to start (maintaining 150g of Protein daily, under 30g Carbs, Fats for remaining calories). It is my understanding that after 6-8 weeks minimum, your body becomes fat adapted - that is, it burns fat for fuel much easier due to forced adaptations. After this I can experiment with carb refeed days or minimal carbs pre-workout.

My ultimate goal is to get fairly lean (10-12% BF) and somewhat bulky - sort of like the picture below. Basically, I have never seen my abs and want to drop the last bit of belly fat, and I believe Keto will do just that. Also, from what I understand, the leaner you are, the less likely you are to put on fat when bulking (assuming you’re not dirty bulking).

@adventurearchit

The first few weeks can be a little rough. Supplementing with exogenous ketones can make that rough patch non existent. It’s powder you add to water and drink twice a day. I can vouch for Kegenix brand personally.

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It can be a little rough at first especially when you start dropping water weight quickly. The loss of water weight can throw off your electrolyte balance. The best thing is to supplement something that has sodium potassium amd magnesium. I got mine at vitamin Shoppe. Ive heard people say exogenous ketones can help but make sure you focus on becoming fat adapted. Keep your meals simple. Eat plenty of omega 3 eggs. Your plan looks good

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If I did keto you’d have to change the combination to my gun safe because I would go on a multi-state killing spree in search of some pasta. I wish I could do it. I wish I could be dedicated to a high protein, high fat, NSNG diet. The science seems to point to it being healthier, or at least a lot healthier than the bullshit they’ve shoveled our way for the last 40 years. But I can’t do it. My Italian ancestors would haunt me if I stopped eating bread and pasta.

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Italians historically didnt eat that way. Italy is basically an island and they ate mostly seafood. Just like Ireland. Everyone thinks Ireland they think potatoes. Potatoes didnt exist in Ireland until they were imported by the English from Peru. Before that the Irish survived on cattles and the milk/cheese

700 years of Italians eating pasta is quite a bit of time for it to become a way of life. I can do low carb stuff for 6-8 weeks and that’s about my max, I don’t blame you Iron Yuppie. I’m still not sold on the “science” behind Keto being healthier. I suppose specific diets within Keto can be healthy, but all these folks cramming butter, steak, bacon in their mouths daily isn’t healthy. There’s a healthy way to eat with Keto, and a healthy way to eat with carbs.

Don’t get me wrong. Keto works. For maybe 10% of people, who are truly dedicated and truly understand it. I just see too much false information and bad practices when applying it in real life. Like I said, alldayeveryday has a good grasp on it, but that’s definitely not the norm. And doing Keto for 2-3 months then jumping back to a normal diet typically doesn’t end well.

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Healthier than loads of sugar and genetically modified foods, definitely way healthier. But from clients, and friends, whom have all tried Keto at one point or another, there’s a healthier way and a not so healthy way. How many folks do you hear about pounding sticks of butter and steaks a week? Still not good for heart health.

I still haven’t found any research that definitively says whole grains, oats, sweet potato, etc… are unhealthy.

I think keto is bullshit in the same way every other diet is bullshit. There’s some measure of truth, and then there’s the most vocal followers who try to push it to be something it’s not. (I am not saying that you’re doing that @alldayeveryday, I’m referring to people outside of this forum) I like the anti-inflammatory benefits of keto and that intrigues me the most. But I know I couldn’t do it full time.

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My ancestors were all from the interior, in central and northern Italy. Their diet was very different than those on the coasts or in Sardinia and Sicily (which is not Italy as far as I’m concerned). Plus I grew up in an Italian American household, which does not resemble an actual Italian household. Because in Merica we do shit different. Load. Up. The. Carbs.

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What exactly do you mean by that statement?

I mean Sicily is not Italy as far as the mainlanders are concerned. It’s got its own thing and we don’t want any part of it.

It’s a centuries-old grudge thing between Sicilians and the rest of Italians. We all generally joke about how they’re not real Italians and then, in typical Sicilian hothead fashion, they get all bent out of shape. It’s funny because none of us, save one guy,(meaning my friend groups over the years) are even remotely close in time or proximity to our families who actually lived there. So it’s more of a meme than anything else. We also express our distrust of the Irish, which is particularly funny because my best friend whose father is off the boat from Abruzzi married an Irish American woman. So the joke is he doesn’t trust himself. Anyway, it’s just a little joke within certain circles of Italian Americans.

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My ancestors came from Italy. They settled in Grand Isle, LA as pirates and my dad is an authentic Italian & New Orleans style chef with a cooking show and a well known restaurant. I can tell you from experience Italians can eat good on keto. My favorite is brucilini which is thin sliced ribeye and thin sliced ham wrapped around asiago cheese and cooked in the red sauce.

Kegenix (created by Dr Dominic D’Agostino)

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Thats amazing @dextermorgan. My ancestors came from Italy and settled in New Orleans. My grandfather became a Cajun chef in New Orleans and owned his own restaurant when I was a kid. He would bring me jambalaya every night when he shut down the restaurant.

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@alldayeveryday
That’s crazy! Small world. My cousin is a chef as well and keeps seafood gumbo stocked in our house

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